Indian Special Forces

[hkdas]

id the vehicle
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Don't know the company or model, but the design looks like it is copied from WW2 jeeps

 

[hkdas]

Para SF(?)

 

[superpower]

Please ID the Rifle ...

 

[KumaoniReborn]

What vehicle is that
(And yes he is a SF guy)

View: https://www.instagram.com/p/C9eDHrjNFoe/

Wtf is this is fboy posting going on in para sf? Why is this unmoderated? Are they becoming tiktok eboys? These men who were busy laying ambushes and living for weeks in heights of 20,000 feet, killing scores of militants, operating in the most vicious terrains, have been reduced to this?

 

[Tejas_Mark_2]

Please ID the Rifle ...
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star aerospace ak upgrade

 

[Tejas_Mark_2]

AK 47/54/76 Assault Rifle | Star Aerospace

The modification/ upgradation system offered by us provides: A Picatinny rail for mounting modular optics, lasers, etc. Foldable Buttstock with integrated cheek pad Rubberized pistol grip for enhanced gripping 30 Rds. Polymer magazine with window to check remaining rounds. Picatinny...

www.staraerospace.org

 

[KumaoniReborn]

After watching para sf's room intervention videos and firing style, do you think they are trained by SAS!? Watch that 3 para sf's firing with green Berets. It's beyond pathetic.

1) para SF is part of infantry, and still now para SF are powerless to get their own identity. Why?
Why is Lt.General Katoch complains that parachute regiment is controlled by officers from airborne units. But the fact is SF units were more in numbers than para airborne, still para SF is powerless!!??
Even after becoming a Lt.general why is Katoch sir and many other para SF high-ranking officers failed to create a seperate SF unit!? While they were in service all of them only care about their promotions, when got retired they write books contains criticism of everyone else.
2) two para SF battalions are permanently deployed in Kashmir with each battalion having 500+ soldiers. Other than them, additional para SF soldiers are deployed there too.. if there are 100+ rooms why not send more para SF guys into the operation!?
There wasn't any hostage situation, locals are asked to vacate the building by terrorists. Those who were inside the building said this to local media at that time.
Bro, Delta Force and Peshmerga joint raid in freeing 70 prisoners was done within 3 hours, they cleared whole prison complex filled with large number of ISIL. So stop justifying para sf's lack of training and skills by saying "there were 100+ rooms" ( which that building doesn't had). Remember, only 2 terrorists were there.
And yes, para SF stoped operation at night, it is nothing new, they do it in most urban operations, you can check the news reports or shiv aroor's book to confirm it.



Both US green Berets and SAS offered help to train para SF, and they also offered help to set up our AFSOD. It was indian army who doesn't want their help.
Man, whatever training SAS Provides to indian SF will be huge one considering para sf's poor quality training.
SAS don't provide drone training.
Green Berets offered help to set up SFTS, indian army denied it(army officials thinks US involvement will compromise tactics of Indian army!!).
Check how a rebel group like Peshmerga's CT division is trained by DELTA.. man they are equipped and trained to nato standards. They are the best CT unit in middle East. The operations they conducted are top notch.
US always wants to improve military to military relationship with india because they knows that political parties changes, but military personnel will be there so it is more efficient to have better military relationship than having a good political relations.
But in India, defence relations means defence deals. No one intrested in joint training or deep SF cooperation. Lt. Gen Katoch explains about this in his book.

Training with others who have more experience will always help. What do you think, why US is so egger send their soldiers to foreign training schools? They are trying to learn from everyone.. like a PhD student.

tactics are based on equipments. There is no such things like 'we are good at tactics but lack equipments'. Army officials have powers to purchase equipments by their own but they are in 'chalta hai' attitude. They don't always have to go to MOD for approval. If 9, 10, 21 para soldiers are comparatively better equipped than 3, 2, 12 para SF soldiers then it points to the efficiency and seriousness of battalion commanders.
Why Marcos are better equipped than para SF!? Marcos are the least numbered unit in navy, and role Vijaypal sir played in mordanising MARCOS was huge. It shows that man in charge is all that matters
Why no one in para SF care to better equip the unit!?.
No need to blame MoD for incompetence of para SF commanders.

Bro, it was in 80s. At that time we doesn't had the financial capacity of what we have today. And Lt Col Rustom K Nanavatty was military attache, that's why he goes to SAS training centre, it doesn't mean para SF are closely studying SAS.
Para SF should have send soldiers to SAS training centre now, but they are not. Man even pakis are sending SSG to SAS training centres till 2017. Why don't send our soldiers because many officers in army thinks they are the best in the world.
Unless officials get out of their superiority complex and false pride noting will change.

There was actually an SF regiment made back in 1990 under the guidance of General BC Joshi. This SF regiment died in 95 when General Shankar Roy Chowdhaury disbanded it under pressure from airborne officers

 

[Noob]

Wtf is this is fboy posting going on in para sf? Why is this unmoderated? Are they becoming tiktok eboys? These men who were busy laying ambushes and living for weeks in heights of 20,000 feet, killing scores of militants, operating in the most vicious terrains, have been reduced to this?

This is nothing during lockdown period their were influx of Army vloggers, 30sec reels/tiktoks or whatever you wanna call them on social media from their gear to equipment to what do those guys get when they join whole unboxing and what not especially infantry units then around 2022 someone probably reported it and it was wiped out from internet you probably might find some compilations of those tiktoks still somewhere on yt people from villages did it specially and it was equally loved by that audiance

 

[Tejas_Mark_2]

Please ID the Rifle ...
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can someone id the optic?

 

[Arad Operator]

star aerospace ak upgrade

Thats a Moded INSAS

 

[Arad Operator]

Para SF(?)
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Vipers...

 

[Tejas_Mark_2]

Thats a Moded INSAS

modded by whom?

 

[Noob]

modded by whom?

Modded Insas by Star Aerospace military gave out control for modded Insas recently some went to Marcos it seems

 

[Tejas_Mark_2]

Modded Insas by Star Aerospace military gave out control for modded Insas recently some went to Marcos it seems

Why marcos? Shouldn't they be buying new rifles instead of upgrading existing ones, that too insas?

 

[Noob]

Why marcos? Shouldn't they be buying new rifles instead of upgrading existing ones, that too insas?

Could be just cross training with Army afaik the tender was from Army themselves only and not navy so could be Army's Insas and even if it's not Army's and Marcos got some the reason only they can explain tbh I see upgrading insas as waste of resources specially the price old small arms thread had the price it was expensive af @BlackViking did you guys participate in the tender? Was it for Army only?


Edit - found the price it's ₹99,272 per insas that's highway robbery

 

[lexCommando]

Para SF(?)
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Proper kit pictures ya drills ko chorke inse sab chapri chize karwalo

 

[hkdas]

View: https://x.com/DefenceChamber/status/1813520707223171402?t=uzAxC2syWEGg8pO0SqbF5w&s=19

 

[hkdas]

There was actually an SF regiment made back in 1990 under the guidance of General BC Joshi. This SF regiment died in 95 when General Shankar Roy Chowdhaury disbanded it under pressure from airborne officers

Yes, after that no SF commender shown any intrest in creating a seperate SF regiment.
For the sake of their promotions they continue to say "yes sir" "ok sir" to all commands from infantry units.

 

[lexCommando]

There was actually an SF regiment made back in 1990 under the guidance of General BC Joshi. This SF regiment died in 95 when General Shankar Roy Chowdhaury disbanded it under pressure from airborne officers

I don't understand? What kind of rotten system is indian military where airborne officers hold more power than special forces? What kind of hierarchy is this? And army chiefs let that all happen? This is all rot

 

[KumaoniReborn]

I don't understand? What kind of rotten system is indian military where airborne officers hold more power than special forces? What kind of hierarchy is this? And army chiefs let that all happen? This is all rot

There were more airborne battalions than SF at that time so more pressure came from them airborne side