Indian Special Forces

[rkhanna]

This keeps getting circulated, but my question for it's validity is 'How can a Corps commander be there in an Army Brigade ?' Can someone find the book name please ?

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If i rememeber correctly - this story (or versions of it) are from their Raising - they were given a test to prove the validity and need of the unit. I think BR / Killer Instinct etc have all carried a version of this.

Leaving the language aside. they were successful in harrasing the Logistics and Comms of a larger force. Essentially did Asymentrical Warfare in the mountains where the ungainly larger force didnt have the flexibility to respond. The terrain and tactics limited the larger force in its ability to manouver.

If i remmeber correctly (anybody help correct me) - it was trainEx that also allowed the IA to use the SFF as forward Point unit in the 71 war (East) - something they again were successful at.

IF the Officer Notation is correct - it could be because there was DGMO interest in the outcome? a new unit and concept for covert asymetrical war in the mountains was being formed. Something completely outside the IA ORBAT? could that be good enough?

 

[rkhanna]

Continuation...
Marcos kill house(made of ballistic rubber plates)

So you dont get killed by richochets. People in the Navy have been taking minutes of meetings during their Phoren trips and puting them to use.

 

[TAVOUR 21]

 

[armyofhind]

This keeps getting circulated, but my question for it's validity is 'How can a Corps commander be there in an Army Brigade ?' Can someone find the book name please ?

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I believe this is Phantoms of Chittagong by Brig. SS Uban

 

[IWIarad11]

Marcos and para SF modernization was decided by a joint staff committee if I remember it correctly, they have got the same boxes to check (with some service specific equipment). Marcos are enjoying more since they have an Integrated HQ in MoD that directly overlooks this matter and speeds up procurement. To add to it, Marcos are very few in numbers.

The only extra (great) thing that Marcos is doing is taking contemporary standard CQB&MOUT training from experienced instructors.
Para units are also trying this but most of their hired instructors are Desi guys with 2000s Era techniques learnt in some middle eastern country.

1. Agree. No mismatch b/w Marcos and Para SF loadouts (except comtacs)

2. Why doesn't Para SF hire ex Green Berets to teach them the latest stuff?

 

[johny_baba]

Off topic


View: https://www.youtube.com/shorts/PhoAoLgsHGk

ummm... what???

when you try to propose a lady on valentine (obviously with rose in hand)

when you want to let out a fart silently (but be advised, not all farts are just farts )

 

[Airborne22]

1. Agree. No mismatch b/w Marcos and Para SF loadouts (except comtacs)

2. Why doesn't Para SF hire ex Green Berets to teach them the latest stuff?

Above my pay grade to answer this.

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NSG or some para commando in full black ? Or SG ?

 

[TAVOUR 21]

Above my pay grade to answer this.

NSG or some para commando in full black ? Or SG ?

the PC looks similar to what NSG uses

 

[TAVOUR 21]

 

[hkdas]

View: https://x.com/elitepredatorss/status/1909555938404843929?t=9VRGZZVWwktgqsYgDUjYeQ&s=19

 

[rkhanna]

Phantoms of Chittagong by Brig. SS Uban

Phantoms of Chittagong—The “Fifth Army” in Bangladesh

This book brings out for the first time little known facts about the Indo-Pak War of 1971 which resulted in the birth of a new nation. The author was the hero of a thrilling drama enacted by an unbelievable small number of guerillas achieving disproportionately large successes, under some of the...

books.google.co.in

First 3 chapters

 

[Kilomike2]

SG

 

[Noob]

So you dont get killed by richochets. People in the Navy have been taking minutes of meetings during their Phoren trips and puting them to use.

When you actually realise what the trips are for and work with domestic industry for betterment of your forces you get this .......

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Where from is it old or relatively new?

 

[COLDHEARTED AVIATOR]

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Bhai agar yeh IssspasaaaL Junit he toh rehne do!!

Jai MarcoJ!

 

[IWIarad11]

Bhai agar yeh IssspasaaaL Junit he toh rehne do!!

Jai MarcoJ!

Aisahi hai.

 

[abingdonboy]

Its a well setup squad , thermal ,nods ,M4s acogs, RPGs, snipers and now even Machine Gun , that too a MG3 , claymore , mines .

How the fuck are they able to bring in big guns from across the LOC , is BSF sleeping

BSF have never seemed particularly effective on either border but then again their job is mammoth and they have little assets (almost no aerial ISR) and are still operating like they did in the 1950s with foot patrols and static border posts- it’s not hard to see how a savvy enemy who has had decades to refine TTPs can get around this. CAPFs in general are still treated like the ugly step child

That said, this is yet another failure of the MoD and SFs. Mil intel should be more than capable of generating tactical and actionable packages from across the border and SF should be regularly taking the fight where they sleep not waiting until they cross the line, few of the caveats that exist with LOC apply to IB, it should be a happy hunting ground for the Paras.

In an ideal world it could be the best proving ground for SOD/SOCOM, after all the entire point of the command would be to operate independently from the conventional big army. Task SOD to target these cross border entities and give them free rein to acquire capabilities (ISR, support etc) organically otherwise what do they even exist to do? Just another tick box

 

[abingdonboy]

is MARCOS the only VBSS elements on ships to cross train with other navy VBSS crews?

No, each frontline IN shop work combat capabilities will have a boarding party/VBSS made up of its own sailors. MARCOs get deployed for vessels going on particular high risk deployments like the Gulf of Aden but the ship will still have its own VBSS in addition

 

[COLDHEARTED AVIATOR]

View: https://x.com/ustadmaverick/status/1909491980825952291?s=46

 

[Jedi Operator]

No, each frontline IN shop work combat capabilities will have a boarding party/VBSS made up of its own sailors. MARCOs get deployed for vessels going on particular high risk deployments like the Gulf of Aden but the ship will still have its own VBSS in addition

The main reason for deploying MARCOS onboard ships is not to act as a QRF or VBSS team, instead it is for Fleet Protection, to not let another USS Cole incident take place.

They advance in their geminis and recce the harbour prior to the ship's landing and confirm if it's safe to approach

 

[johny_baba]

View: https://youtube.com/shorts/gyH5W7MjlAk?feature=shared
Another banger

i know it's not worth loosing some brain cells over it, but as a firearms enthusiast, i couldn't help but feel curious is this 'racking the slide by striking it on heel of a boot' thing is even possible, and some pointers about it
-> so on a typical reciprocating slide pistol, it's obvious that he couldn't have racked it by striking its muzzle side, as when such a typical pistol cycles, the barrel usually peeps out of front end
-> also on many typical pistols with fixed pattern recoil spring designs, the front end of recoil spring rod also peeps out, t
-> also, many pistols have their lower ends of frame extended upto slide length, to mainly act as a cover for that recoil spring rod when a pistol slides

so this trick most likely involves hitting on a pistol's slide part below the muzzle, and such a pistol shouldn't have recoil spring rod sticking out of that end when it's racked like that, and front end of frame shouldn't cover that part up

means, a glock can't be racked like that, nor a sig p226,

so what pistols can be racked like this? *ahem* Browning Hi-Power, M1911, Tokarev TT-23, and some others that's got a telescopic recoil spring there, that don't have their front ends of recoil spring bars sticking out, and hopefully, their front ends of a frame does not extend upto slide and allow enough space there for a pistol to be racked like that,
(Cz-75 is another pistol that fits in this category, except last part, that it's front end of the frame is long enough to prevent such racking of slide by hill strike, a user has to positively pull it fully rearwards to get in action)
here he's doing it with Browning Hi-Power obviously, so yeah, check out these images here to understand the gist



BUT, this entire thing, first requiring a compatible pistol, then requiring that a user
- carefully strikes bottom of the slide at flat angle to his heel
- this strike should be made with enough force to fully retract a slide on his pistol
- should be done in quick succession so it doesn't misfeed
^all of this in a moment of heat, while saving a VIP hostage from getting attacked, while trying to open fire on some potential terrorists

the amount of conditions that goes into play here are so specific for successful outcome...i shudder to think who even thought of this maneuver