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Please tell me how we avenged the killing of Col Viplav's family? I have no pity, mercy or any sympathies for these PLA cadres or Maoists. They need to be wiped off the earth without delay or mercy.
How we can't say but maj digvijay singh rawat avenged it and did some ops against them did to which he was given KC
 
They are better trained bro.

North eastern millitants dont consider them a militant ..they think they are an Army.

They have ranks and even go for courses in Myanmar where they are trained by chinese and burmese.

They have leave system.

Morally they are even better than most armies as they dont touch women and children.

Ask any Army man he will rate them above Kashmiri or Paki terrorists.
true even Col Hunny Bakshi said this and he's seen both of these terrorists. Major Sapru on the other hand has fought all of them in their prime...including the LTTE. Definitely the LTTE were the big leagues and if Indian army wants to learn it's lesson the hard way sadly they need to fight a similar force again

Also to add on to your points, North Eastern fellows have been hunters and are expert trackers since childhood + fighting on their own turf soil...even politically they are better organized. Kashmir mei on the other hand the only fighting men were Dogra, the rest were Sufis...at large....the use of foriegn insurgents to motivate young kashmiris has been since 1947 and especially after Soviet Afghan war ended. Kashmir has a huge drug problem also.
 
They are better trained bro.

North eastern millitants dont consider them a militant ..they think they are an Army.

They have ranks and even go for courses in Myanmar where they are trained by chinese and burmese.

They have leave system.

Morally they are even better than most armies as they dont touch women and children.

Ask any Army man he will rate them above Kashmiri or Paki terrorists.
The thing is that the North Eastern militants might be better organized , but they still don’t have the same level of training as paki mujahids nor experience. Also not entirely sold in the china part. Maj Gen bakshi himself considers NE to be a insurgency while J and K from phase 97-03 to have been a proxy war.

Do remember in the early90s all the way till mid to even late 00s many of the paki terrorists had expereince fighting in Soviet Afghan war, they were directly funded and trained by one of the largest insurgencies.

However, I can say that north eastern militants have managed to get KIA of ours in double digits at least three times since 1980 (1982 ambush on sikh regiment, 1994 ambush on 16 maratha LI, 2015 ambush), but then again, historically North Eastern miltiants often surrendered in large groups when defeat was eminent.
 
They are better trained bro.

North eastern millitants dont consider them a militant ..they think they are an Army.

They have ranks and even go for courses in Myanmar where they are trained by chinese and burmese.

They have leave system.

Morally they are even better than most armies as they dont touch women and children.

Ask any Army man he will rate them above Kashmiri or Paki terrorists.
Naxals are superior to even NE militia boys if we can discount the .303s .Have been following some Kuki and Meiti militants in insta.Just like you said they consider themselves as military.Can’t blame them for their rebellious tendencies though for historical or cultural reasons
 
The thing is that the North Eastern militants might be better organized , but they still don’t have the same level of training as paki mujahids nor experience. Also not entirely sold in the china part. Maj Gen bakshi himself considers NE to be a insurgency while J and K from phase 97-03 to have been a proxy war.

Do remember in the early90s all the way till mid to even late 00s many of the paki terrorists had expereince fighting in Soviet Afghan war, they were directly funded and trained by one of the largest insurgencies.

However, I can say that north eastern militants have managed to get KIA of ours in double digits at least three times since 1980 (1982 ambush on sikh regiment, 1994 ambush on 16 maratha LI, 2015 ambush), but then again, historically North Eastern miltiants often surrendered in large groups when defeat was eminent.
They view themselves more as a professional military than as revolutionaries, which is why they sign treaties and surrender as a unified group. They don’t see their cause as something worth dying for in a suicidal manner; it’s a completely different mindset. Since they believe their struggle is primarily political, they know it could dissolve if public support fades, though that’s unlikely to happen anytime soon.

This is the clearest explanation I’ve encountered so far......

"It would be reasonable to assess and hope that with the death of Isak Swu in 2016, and the squeezing of the NSCN(K) by security forces from both India and Myanmar, the insurgency is in its final phase. However, tribal and ethnic loyalties are still deeply rooted and will be the biggest stumbling blocks in developing a cohesive Naga identity and reaping the benefits of economic prosperity. Contrary to public perception that China no longer looms large onthe north-east horizon with its support for the Naga secessionist movement, there is still a free flow of arms from southern China into Nagaland and Manipur. Bibhu Prasad Routray, a security analyst with a focus on tracking terror and insurgent networks, argues in a recent piece that Beijing could well be ‘gradually unveiling a grand design to revive the battered (north-east) insurgencies’. Going on to highlight rather alarmingly, he cautions,‘Provision of safe houses, supply of weapons and even playing a more prominent role in directing attacks on security forces could be emerging as Beijing’s instrumentalities to disturb peace in the fragile north-east.’ Clearly, there is little room for the security forces to let their guard low."

Book - Full Spectrum by (Ret) Air Vice Marshal Arjun Subramanyium
(PS: Thanks @Binayak95 :yo: for the recommendation, my favourite book on Indian millitary history so far)

So the main takeaways are...(about the NE insurgency)
  • It's an older politcial struggle
  • The are trained in hunting and jungle tracking since childhood
  • They think of themselves as semi nation states already (big time delulu but works on them)
  • Good infrastructure and proper care of the NE states and it's people can help take away much support from them....but not with current laws which still protect tribal identities which often times they see bigger than their Indian identity so here's the point about tribal loyalties and seeing everyone else as outsiders
  • Even if it is brought down....China will be despirate to bring about revolution and keep funding
  • India's position between the golden traingle and golden crecent of drug trafficing brings about weapons and human trafficing concerns too, especially in the north east
  • India's undermanned narcotics control bureau and lack of balls or intent to go on and do war on drugs like the US did in Honduras, El Salvador and Bolivia (which at the time had an insurgency and threat to US borders). Dont confuse it with Columbia and Mexico please
 
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yeh forum me ye hi hota hai

1. Fighting lol
2. PARA SF ke pas equipment nahi hai
3. NVGs
4. MARCOS ki tariff karna
Last 3 years encounters in Jammu region only and the condition of Para SF…

That was predicted by randi rona fights on this forum.

If anyone would have taken this randi rona seriously those operators would have been saved.

You know how in one encounter Para SF got killed????

They were using Chinese torches in night to see if the other team was clear of fire!!!!!!

We should be ashamed of ourselves for getting young men killed like this.
 
Last 3 years encounters in Jammu region only and the condition of Para SF…

That was predicted by randi rona fights on this forum.

If anyone would have taken this randi rona seriously those operators would have been saved.

You know how in one encounter Para SF got killed????

They were using Chinese torches in night to see if the other team was clear of fire!!!!!!

We should be ashamed of ourselves for getting young men killed like this.
Which encounter are you talking about?
 
Last 3 years encounters in Jammu region only and the condition of Para SF…

That was predicted by randi rona fights on this forum.

If anyone would have taken this randi rona seriously those operators would have been saved.

You know how in one encounter Para SF got killed????

They were using Chinese torches in night to see if the other team was clear of fire!!!!!!

We should be ashamed of ourselves for getting young men killed like this.
Lol, how would they see it? They're not here on his forum. Not that they would do much about it even if they were.
 
I agree with most but maybe not the family part. Why did they ambush and kill Col Viplav's family?

P.S. The same militants were killed by Major Dig Rawat, KC
The PLA later issued a formal apology saying they weren't aware of the CO's wife and kid also being in the jeep. But then they said that the CO should've known better than to take his family along with him on official works.
 

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