Indigenous Anti-Drone Systems

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We will definitely have to look at anti-drone warfare, especially since we border subhumans across the Radcliffe line. This attack was done by a Ukraine sponsored terrorist carrying FPVs in a civilian truck deep inside Siberia. Let's not forget paki terrorists tried doing something similar in 2021 by attacking our airport in Jammu with two FPV drones.

View: https://x.com/Faytuks/status/1929134035030159535

www.indiatoday.in

In a first, drones used to drop explosives on Jammu air base

Two explosions, within a gap of five minutes, rocked the technical area of Jammu airport in the early hours of Sunday. It is suspected to be the first drone attack on any defence establishment in India.
www.indiatoday.in www.indiatoday.in
 
FalconSlayers said:
We will definitely have to look at anti-drone warfare, especially since we border subhumans across the Radcliffe line. This attack was done by a Ukraine sponsored terrorist carrying FPVs in a civilian truck deep inside Siberia. Let's not forget paki terrorists tried doing something similar in 2021 by attacking our airport in Jammu with two FPV drones.

View: https://x.com/Faytuks/status/1929134035030159535

www.indiatoday.in

In a first, drones used to drop explosives on Jammu air base

Two explosions, within a gap of five minutes, rocked the technical area of Jammu airport in the early hours of Sunday. It is suspected to be the first drone attack on any defence establishment in India.
www.indiatoday.in www.indiatoday.in
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The best defence is offense. As I have said previously, always target their stockpiles, ammunition, factories and any storage hubs. Take note of each and every plane and each and every ship entering Pakistan. But good boy babus will let Pakistan accumulate them.
 
FalconSlayers said:
We will definitely have to look at anti-drone warfare, especially since we border subhumans across the Radcliffe line. This attack was done by a Ukraine sponsored terrorist carrying FPVs in a civilian truck deep inside Siberia. Let's not forget paki terrorists tried doing something similar in 2021 by attacking our airport in Jammu with two FPV drones.

View: https://x.com/Faytuks/status/1929134035030159535

www.indiatoday.in

In a first, drones used to drop explosives on Jammu air base

Two explosions, within a gap of five minutes, rocked the technical area of Jammu airport in the early hours of Sunday. It is suspected to be the first drone attack on any defence establishment in India.
www.indiatoday.in www.indiatoday.in
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I calculated and a Bofors L-70 has range of 12.5-km, for redundancy if we assume each has a radius of 1.875-km only it will lead to a bubble of diameter 3.75-km. I calculated how much is the locii length along the Chinese and Pakistan border which led to a figure of 7500-Km. Now note that for every 12.5km bubble of maximum range of the L-70, 4 L-70s can cover each other this leads to a literal drone wall along entire border with mere 2000 Guns.

A Rheinmetall Skyranger costs 13 Million and this is for bloated Euroshit, we can develop and manufacture equivalent system for 5 Million. It just costs 10 Billion and if spread over 10 years would cost merely 1Billion. Although it represents 5% of yearly capex, it is vital in this age of Drones especially along Chinese border. There is no reason to not assume Chinese would send mass horde to perform SEAD.
 
DancingPeacock said:
I calculated and a Bofors L-70 has range of 12.5-km, for redundancy if we assume each has a radius of 1.875-km only it will lead to a bubble of diameter 3.75-km. I calculated how much is the locii length along the Chinese and Pakistan border which led to a figure of 7500-Km. Now note that for every 12.5km bubble of maximum range of the L-70, 4 L-70s can cover each other this leads to a literal drone wall along entire border with mere 2000 Guns.

A Rheinmetall Skyranger costs 13 Million and this is for bloated Euroshit, we can develop and manufacture equivalent system for 5 Million. It just costs 10 Billion and if spread over 10 years would cost merely 1Billion. Although it represents 5% of yearly capex, it is vital in this age of Drones especially along Chinese border. There is no reason to not assume Chinese would send mass horde to perform SEAD.
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View: https://x.com/front_ukrainian/status/1929149800441581578?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1929149800441581578%7Ctwgr%5E%7Ctwcon%5Es1_c10&ref_url=


View: https://x.com/front_ukrainian/status/1929156985846390809

They were launched by a truck next to the airfield.
Ukraine somehow managed to bring these drones right next to ruski airbase by hiding them in a container truck.
 
DancingPeacock said:
I calculated and a Bofors L-70 has range of 12.5-km, for redundancy if we assume each has a radius of 1.875-km only it will lead to a bubble of diameter 3.75-km. I calculated how much is the locii length along the Chinese and Pakistan border which led to a figure of 7500-Km. Now note that for every 12.5km bubble of maximum range of the L-70, 4 L-70s can cover each other this leads to a literal drone wall along entire border with mere 2000 Guns.

A Rheinmetall Skyranger costs 13 Million and this is for bloated Euroshit, we can develop and manufacture equivalent system for 5 Million. It just costs 10 Billion and if spread over 10 years would cost merely 1Billion. Although it represents 5% of yearly capex, it is vital in this age of Drones especially along Chinese border. There is no reason to not assume Chinese would send mass horde to perform SEAD.
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Is it possible to convert old L-70s into CIWS system? Irrc L&T CIWS has L-70 guns.
 
randombully said:
For those small quadcopter drones, a gun based ciws would do, heck even soldiers with ak or shotgun will do.
Mf Russians didn't had/used either.

Our Garud even sniped some drones like these in recent conflict with pak
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I pray our interior bases are also we'll protected by ads. Just as far as CHD they felt need to upgrade ads after conflict. Hope it's for all bases in staggered but quickly manner.
 
randombully said:
For those small quadcopter drones, a gun based ciws would do, heck even soldiers with ak or shotgun will do.
Mf Russians didn't had/used either.

Our Garud even sniped some drones like these in recent conflict with pak
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You can't do that with a drone swarm. These are FPV drones not loitering munitions that need AADs and CIWS or MANPADS. You need to neutralise everyone of them, blind firing can end up in unintentional small arms fire damage on the airframes. Although Indian Navy did buy smart SMASH-2000 systems for MARCOS units, how effective they are against a drone swarm or if they've been used is still unknown.

Which is why these systems come in play in eliminating the threat. Just a few of these systems at each base can tackle hundreds of such drones and loitering munitions.

View: https://x.com/alpha_defense/status/1929180017793098151



Apart from that you need jammers, directed energy weapons to neutralise the targets at large. Here's another interesting concept under development by Tonbo Imaging for a Microwave based directed energy weapon for drone swarms, they've also won export contracts apparently.


View: https://x.com/kishanchand_89/status/1892564147977806034
 
Russians have proven to be far less capable than us , sorry to say but what sort of border security they even have ?
 
randombully said:
For those small quadcopter drones, a gun based ciws would do, heck even soldiers with ak or shotgun will do.
Mf Russians didn't had/used either.

Our Garud even sniped some drones like these in recent conflict with pak
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Russians anti drone measures were poor throughout the war. 1-2 years back same situation happened where drones striked another Airbase. Russians could not able to put anything to avoid this situation.

On the other hand, our Army, AF and Navy identified the Drone threat and invested in necessary anti measures which brings big victory. Moving forward our Anti drone System will be more layered. Eg. Solar Industries Hard Kill solution like bhagvastra, DRDO 30KW laser system and upcoming Microwave, GPS Jamming anti drone systems.
 
FalconSlayers said:
You can't do that with a drone swarm. These are FPV drones not loitering munitions that need AADs and CIWS or MANPADS. You need to neutralise everyone of them, blind firing can end up in unintentional small arms fire damage on the airframes. Although Indian Navy did buy smart SMASH-2000 systems for MARCOS units, how effective they are against a drone swarm or if they've been used is still unknown.

Which is why these systems come in play in eliminating the threat. Just a few of these systems at each base can tackle hundreds of such drones and loitering munitions.

View: https://x.com/alpha_defense/status/1929180017793098151



Apart from that you need jammers, directed energy weapons to neutralise the targets at large. Here's another interesting concept under development by Tonbo Imaging for a Microwave based directed energy weapon for drone swarms, they've also won export contracts apparently.


View: https://x.com/kishanchand_89/status/1892564147977806034
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ukrainians used fiber optics drones
they can't be jammed
we need hardkill systems
 
Magadha Naresh said:
Russians have proven to be far less capable than us , sorry to say but what sort of border security they even have ?
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quite uneven comparison ig , one hand we have debt ridden poor jihadi attack dog of west and china. Armed with chinese low quality weapons with literal no soft to hard power and on the other hand we have darling of west , resisting nazism , fascism and whatnot with UN backed western weapons and mercenaries. Hollywood backed PR.
I am not even comparing on religion and skin color that is another major factor.
 
Solar industries going to have a field day exporting bhargavastra hardkill micro missile system . I hope they shorten their developmental timeline . Soft kill cant be done if drone is guided by fiber optic cable .
 
Yuyutsu said:
quite uneven comparison ig , one hand we have debt ridden poor jihadi attack dog of west and china. Armed with chinese low quality weapons with literal no soft to hard power and on the other hand we have darling of west , resisting nazism , fascism and whatnot with UN backed western weapons and mercenaries. Hollywood backed PR.
I am not even comparing on religion and skin color that is another major factor.
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Hey Dhartarastra , aap ne uchit kaha parantu bhul hogye aapse
Yahi shatru, kuch varshon purv hamare upar vibhatsa prahar karne me safal tha .
Hamare nagaron me, sarvajanik sthalon par ityadi .
He gandhari nandan, aapko is thatya se avgat hona atiavashyak hai ki , bharatvarsh ki sena aur shashan ki vyavastha me unnati hui hai. Ye paryapt nai hai , ye mai manta hu parantu hum jis stithi me the, usse to anukul stithi me hi apne rashtra ke Suraksha tantra ko dekh sakte hain.
Hamari seema bhi to choti nai hai na shatru se ? Yadi roos avem ukraine ki seema Vishal hai to ?
Avem hum ne kisi prakar ke ayat pr hi pratibandh laga diya hai paschim ke shatru se .uske uparant bhi har vahan ki ,jo bharat me pravesh karne ki chesta karta hai uski purn roop se viyam prakriya se anubhavit kiya jata hai . Aap kewal
Ishwar se prarthana kariye he dharmyuddha kauravya ki hum isi prakar se sajj rahe aise aakraman ke prati.
Vesh avem bhasha me koi adhik antar nai hai, hamare aur shatru mein, Roos aur Ukraine ki tulna me.
 
Magadha Naresh said:
Hey Dhartarastra , aap ne uchit kaha parantu bhul hogye aapse
Yahi shatru, kuch varshon purv hamare upar vibhatsa prahar karne me safal tha .
Hamare nagaron me, sarvajanik sthalon par ityadi .
He gandhari nandan, aapko is thatya se avgat hona atiavashyak hai ki , bharatvarsh ki sena aur shashan ki vyavastha me unnati hui hai. Ye paryapt nai hai , ye mai manta hu parantu hum jis stithi me the, usse to anukul stithi me hi apne rashtra ke Suraksha tantra ko dekh sakte hain.
Hamari seema bhi to choti nai hai na shatru se ? Yadi roos avem ukraine ki seema Vishal hai to ?
Avem hum ne kisi prakar ke ayat pr hi pratibandh laga diya hai paschim ke shatru se .uske uparant bhi har vahan ki ,jo bharat me pravesh karne ki chesta karta hai uski purn roop se viyam prakriya se anubhavit kiya jata hai . Aap kewal
Ishwar se prarthana kariye he dharmyuddha kauravya ki hum isi prakar se sajj rahe aise aakraman ke prati.
Vesh avem bhasha me koi adhik antar nai hai, hamare aur shatru mein, Roos aur Ukraine ki tulna me.
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Doreamon said:
Solar industries going to have a field day exporting bhargavastra hardkill micro missile system . I hope they shorten their developmental timeline . Soft kill cant be done if drone is guided by fiber optic cable .
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Apart solar industries, I very much like Tonbo hpm dew system also. A much needed ad againstcchinese mass swarm drone attack. Must be quickly developed and deployed across bases and imp installations and infra. I am also thinking they shall also act as good relatively cheaper(if cheaper) ARM missile attack diverted or absorber, as several lit like them shall confuse arm to distinguish them from expensive AD defence Radars?

Again Hang on to Aerostats : slightly more powerful versions and deploy them at borders.
 
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