Indo-China Border & LAC

[Suga]

How smartly the biggest threat that US poses to India has been evaded. The cultural derogation of India, something which China avoids.

Most absurd laws passed and norms followed by the GoI like LGBTQ and mainstreaming it, adultery laws, women in forces, and several upcoming laws are bcoz of US pressure.

Land can be taken back- borders can be altered, but culture and sanity once lost, can not be brought back.



This has to be the biggest joke of the millennia. From cultural pov, Powerhouse only in the terms of dismantling it.

What about our country industrialisation efforts the Han supremacist obviously wont do it instead they will destroy our home grown firms.

 

[darkflame]

What about our country industrialisation efforts the Han supremacist obviously wont do it instead they will destroy our home grown firms.

industrialization without han is nearly impossible hans have largest no of firms in fortune 500 even more then USA, not to mention these firms rised admist continuous competition from us and Japanese firms ours can be too ,whatever investments from this firms will be very necessary.stopping Chinese investments is just like hitting your own leg with an axe

 

[altruistRor]

Hostility with China is not in the best interest of India. India, no matter who rules, will always try to mend the relations with Chinese even if the later one has a history and tendency to backstab.

The obvious reason is, it's a neighbour, sharing thousands of km of boundaries. Both are really huge, and impossible for both sides to completely dismantle or destroy each other.
Territorial boundaries keep changing every hundred year, the culture is the only constant, something which remains.

West has altered this cultural integrity in the NE, and threatens to alter in other regions as well. They want to materialize the rivalry in the neighborhood to make both of them irrelevant.

For me, Never trust a person who wants you to play a death match with your rival or enemy, watching and enjoying thousands of km away.

 

[Aaj Ka Hero]

Now, the disengagement agreement must have included clause of no further military development along border areas (which our retarted diplomats would sign gleefully), but hurts us because we cannot develop equivalent military infrasturcture to match the Chinese.

I don't think this type of agreement might had happened because we were already somewhat OK with what was happening at LAC.
My conclusion is more on tune with this.

View: https://youtu.be/EbLT__YHsf8?si=E0Wen9qw5fBPtJYS

 

[Suryavanshi]

industrialization without han is nearly impossible hans have largest no of firms in fortune 500 even more then USA, not to mention these firms rised admist continuous competition from us and Japanese firms ours can be too ,whatever investments from this firms will be very necessary.stopping Chinese investments is just like hitting your own leg with an axe

Yes Hans have 125 firms vs our 10.

One thing significant is that China's PSU spearheaded their economy by producing manufacturing machinery. It's like what ISRO is doing for our private space sector, helping private firms with machinery and technical support.

On the other hand our PSUs are a source of job creation and reservations.

ISRO, DRDO, ADA. NPCI being exceptions.

PSUs like BEL, BEML and BHEL should have produced machinery needed for industries.

 

[altruistRor]

What about our country industrialisation efforts the Han supremacist obviously wont do it instead they will destroy our home grown firms.

These are the obvious challenges that come along. It's the task of the current govt to provide them stability and maintain a balance. First and foremost thing that we need is the skilled labour which we lack right now.

What we can deduce from the ongoing events is, GoI is very much interested in easing relations with Chinks even at the cost of some collateral damage. If that is the thing, then there is something even more important and critical than these possible losses.

 

[Patriots]

View: https://x.com/rajatpTOI/status/1848616123803066756

 

[Suryavanshi]

I luv this gormint.

#EndAllSarkariJobs

PSU Government Jobs: Central PSU jobs down 2.7 lakh over past decade says Govt data | India News - Times of India

India News: Over the past decade, employment in Central public sector enterprises (CPSEs) has seen a double whammy of job reduction on the one hand and increasing

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To promote R&D culture we can do two things.

1 Open more organizations akin to DRDO and get an exception to reservations for scientific role in them.

2 Grant Tax breaks on R&D.
The gormint cannot give direct funds to private companies because the dehati janta will start banging their heads and chug cyanide pills.

Of course to counter the dhando mindset tax breaks are to be granted after the R&D has been analyzed properly.

Gormint can prioritize patented tech and create a list of technolog sectors where breaks are granted.

 

[Screambowl]

Chinese are notoriously known for their 2-turn. In 1962 something similar happened (disengagement), only for them to attack back in Nov.

Every one knows this. And there will be monitoring all the time so that no chinese troops take advantage of it. Just need right people at the job, unlike during Galwan when chief of NTRO kept sleeping.
Most of these blunders happen due to wrong people on chair, missing the inputs or not being proactive.

 

[Patriots]

View: https://x.com/nitingokhale/status/1848645182209613921

 

[Patriots]

View: https://x.com/ANI/status/1848628720942387261

 

[Screambowl]

View: https://x.com/ANI/status/1848628720942387261

S Jaishanker's words do not match with the position on ground and statements from military. This is not a good practice.

S Jaishankar: Disengagement Process With China On LAC Completed!

The agreement with China on the resumption of patrolling along the Line of Actual Control (LAC), appears to have closed the door on an ugly chapter in bilateral relations. External Affairs Minister S Jaishankar said in Delhi that “The understanding to my knowledge is that we will be able to do the p

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We can say that the disengagement process with China has been completed. There are areas which for various reasons after 2020 … because they had blocked us we had blocked them. So what has happened is we have reached an agreement which will allow patrolling.

 

[Patriots]

View: https://x.com/nitingokhale/status/1848651712053072262

 

[shade2]

Shri @mist_consecutive, do you happen to know what is the status of border infra in AP? and troop deployments also.

News gives a lot of attention to LAC infra development but AP ka can't find much

 

[mist_consecutive]

Land can be taken back- borders can be altered, but culture and sanity once lost, can not be brought back.

Just like how we lost PoK, Aksai Chin and took it back, right ?

This has to be the biggest joke of the millennia. From cultural pov, Powerhouse only in the terms of dismantling it.

95% of India lives in these type of infra -



Random village in SoKo / Japan / Taiwan colonialised / heavily influenced by America -



And you want to tell me preserving our culture is our utmost priority and not economic prosperity ?

Imho, We should have waited untill elections get over. Expect a pro India stand from Trump administration.

We can take pro-America stance again no problem. Nothing is lost.

Every one knows this. And there will be monitoring all the time so that no chinese troops take advantage of it. Just need right people at the job, unlike during Galwan when chief of NTRO kept sleeping.
Most of these blunders happen due to wrong people on chair, missing the inputs or not being proactive.

Problem is different this time. They have created road networks & military infra very close to borders now. Our reaction time has to be too fast.

Shri @mist_consecutive, do you happen to know what is the status of border infra in AP? and troop deployments also.

News gives a lot of attention to LAC infra development but AP ka can't find much

Ongoing at the same pace as in Ladakh.

 

[Psacha123]

kind of a vague confirmation by Chinese in their briefing without any specifics.

“The two sides reached resolutions on relevant matters. China will work with India to implement those”


View: https://x.com/chellaney/status/1848686461404545435?s=46

 

[Hari Sud]

With China, a direct face to face conflict is avoided with the latest understanding on LAC in Ladakh. But this is not political rapprochement. China has not given up on its Arunachal Pradesh grab or will ever vacate the Akas Chin plateau in Ladakh.

Chinese knew that India is growing militarily and economically. It was making India sweat with face to face confrontation. India took the challenge with a huge buildup of military and infrastructure. That meant Chinese will not get their way either by stealth or frontal confrontation. Hence, they chose the alternative to avoid military confrontation. Generally Chinese do not fight, if they cannot win. That situation began to exist in last two years.

Additional point here is that Ukraine war has made India-US relations difficult. China wished to capitalize on this rift. It may end QUAD evolution.

 

[shade2]

kind of a vague confirmation by Chinese in their briefing without any specifics.

“The two sides reached resolutions on relevant matters. China will work with India to implement those”


View: https://x.com/chellaney/status/1848686461404545435?s=46

They will be back, which is why there aren't any specifics.

 

[crazywithmath]

95% of India lives in these type of infra -

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Random village in SoKo / Japan / Taiwan colonialised / heavily influenced by America -

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And you want to tell me preserving our culture is our utmost priority and not economic prosperity ?

Bruh, come on! 95% of India definitely does not reside by a non paved road (some construction work going on in the pics?). You do not have to respond to one extreme take with another extreme take.

Agree with the broader points. My only concern is that Uncle Sam used to have decent manufacturing capabilities up until the '60s and '70s - which they subsequently shifted out to their loyal a̶l̶l̶i̶e̶s̶ vassals. As of 2024, their domestic industries stand neutered and all they can 'shift' is some portions of the supply chain from coronaland. And even that is not guaranteed if the MAGAs end up winning the upcoming Presidential election.

 

[mist_consecutive]

kind of a vague confirmation by Chinese in their briefing without any specifics.

“The two sides reached resolutions on relevant matters. China will work with India to implement those”


View: https://x.com/chellaney/status/1848686461404545435?s=46

I think this shows the disengagement + border patrol agreement wasn't in Chinese favour. When some decision isn't in China's favour they try to brush it under the carpet so that domestic audience doesn't hear about it much.

Rest assured if this was overwhelmingly in China's favour Xi Jinping would had personally flew to Delhi to hug Modi.

Bruh, come on! 95% of India definitely does not reside by a non paved road (some construction work going on in the pics?). You do not have to respond to one extreme take with another extreme take.

Agree with the broader points. My only concern is that Uncle Sam used to have decent manufacturing capabilities up until the '60s and '70s - which they subsequently shifted out to their loyal a̶l̶l̶i̶e̶s̶ vassals. As of 2024, their domestic industries stand neutered and all they can 'shift' is some portions of the supply chain from coronaland. And even that is not guaranteed if the MAGAs end up winning the upcoming Presidential election.

Bro I am not kidding. What % of India lives in high-rise metropolitans or bustling cities really ? A tiny fraction only.

Instead of dharma & culture kanging, our generation must focus on ruthless economy + military building.

This chart tells you the fundamental problem of India -

Uneducated dehati chapris will always vote for caste + freebies politics. They will drag the country down no matter how much dharma or culture maxxing you do.

Once we have our economy and military sorted, go fullpower on culture and dharma influence. Nobody listens to a poor broke man.