Indo-China Border & LAC

[altruistRor]

Just like how we lost PoK, Aksai Chin and took it back, right ?

As said, geographic boundaries change every hundred years or so. Turn the history pages, you'll get the answer.
Why just bothered about PoK or CoK.. we lost entire Sindh, half Punjab and Bengal as well. There was a time when entire India was lost to islamic invaders and Britishers. We fought and got most of it back. Same can happen again.

And you want to tell me preserving our culture is our utmost priority and not economic prosperity ?

Economic prosperity at the cost of culture is definitely not our priority. And here you are trying to compare apples with oranges. Comparing random east asian village with India is completely illogical without taking population and population density into account.
The mess around the country is because of the bureaucratic lathergy and work apathy among the govt employees, no much relation with super economy.

We can take pro-America stance again no problem. Nothing is lost.

The first and foremost thing that is lost when a country takes a pro-American stance is it's sovereignty. The way Americans are hell bent on punishing India on every random topic, don't think goi would be in a mood to go that way.

We'll be doing our usual monkey-balancing, may be a little shift towards the East block.

 

[shade2]

I think this shows the disengagement + border patrol agreement wasn't in Chinese favour. When some decision isn't in China's favour they try to brush it under the carpet so that domestic audience doesn't hear about it much.

Rest assured if this was overwhelmingly in China's favour Xi Jinping would had personally flew to Delhi to hug Modi.



Bro I am not kidding. What % of India lives in high-rise metropolitans or bustling cities really ? A tiny fraction only.

Instead of dharma & culture kanging, our generation must focus on ruthless economy + military building.

This chart tells you the fundamental problem of India -

Uneducated dehati chapris will always vote for caste + freebies politics. They will drag the country down no matter how much dharma or culture maxxing you do.

Once we have our economy and military sorted, go fullpower on culture and dharma influence. Nobody listens to a poor broke man.

Aligning with Burgers will lead to caste and language maxxxxing, your religion will go and with it the country's unity.
The current model is best imo, keep Amerishart at a distance but don't do panga with him, as the years pass and the 10 foot china man gets additional feet in height, the more this arrangement suits us since the Amerimutts will be on the backfoot.

Rest agree with what you have said especially the last line, nobody gives a fuck about some bhooka-nanga country sermonising, that was what we were in the past.

 

[sameer]

Aligning with Burgers will lead to caste and language maxxxxing, your religion will go and with it the country's unity.

Not just that but include low TFR's, militant feminism( look up the 4B movement), lgtv femboy promotion and all other kinds of woke degeneracy which honestly at our current income/development level can't be handled.

The current model is best imo, keep Amerishart at a distance but don't do panga with him, as the years pass and the 10 foot china man gets additional feet in height, the more this arrangement suits us since the Amerimutts will be on the backfoot.

Rest agree with what you have said especially the last line, nobody gives a fuck about some bhooka-nanga country sermonising, that was what we were in the past.

That's a good way to put it. I think there are historical parallels with this as well. China played a very similar role during the cold war.

 

[shade2]

Not just that but include low TFR's, militant feminism( look up the 4B movement), lgtv femboy promotion and all other kinds of woke degeneracy which honestly at our current income/development level can't be handled.



That's a good way to put it. I think there are historical parallels with this as well. China played a very similar role during the cold war.

Cheenq had to pass a test through fire though, viz the Tianamen Square regime change protest which ended not-as-planned and in a massacre.

However Cheenq was beloved of the world corporates so they lobbied US to remove the sanctions on them, since then US has avoided ungli, and Cheenq has kept his head down.
Till the current era that is

 

[Azaad]

Aligning with Burgers will lead to caste and language maxxxxing, your religion will go and with it the country's unity.
The current model is best imo, keep Amerishart at a distance but don't do panga with him, as the years pass and the 10 foot china man gets additional feet in height, the more this arrangement suits us since the Amerimutts will be on the backfoot.

Rest agree with what you have said especially the last line, nobody gives a fuck about some bhooka-nanga country sermonising, that was what we were in the past.

People tend to see issues & events within a very narrow spectrum of time . China for all its power is politically very fragile . Throughout history they've been victims as much to external aggression as to internal disturbances both of which has led to epochal historical changes brought about thru catastrophes right from the Xiongnu invasions in 2nd century BCE to the An Lushan rebellion which eventually brought down the Tang Dynasty to the Mongol invasions to the Taiping Rebellion among others which brought down the Qing Dynasty . These are but some of the many external & internal challenges China's faced throughout its history. There's no reason to believe it won't hold true for the future.

As far as the US goes historians a century from now will look on the period between 1989 - 2022 when the US had absolute hegemony over the world & blew up their chances. Had they been more sagacious in wielding their power Pax Americana would've continued for another century if not more .

To make matters worse they ended up building a peer sized rival unprecedented in the recorded history of mankind . To think , with all their think thanks & world class academies they couldn't fathom one of the principle & most fundamental axioms ever which is - never ever help build up your rival .

They did it twice with Japan once in the pre war years & the second occasion when they helped finance Japan's post war revival where Japan's industrial prowess went on to challenge that of the US forcing the latter to browbeat the former & other allies into the Plaza Accord which in turn led to internal contradictions within the Japanese economy surfacing leading to decades long deflation . They repeated this with China .

As far as India goes we need to balance out both - economic growth as well as meeting the aspirations of our people some of which is downright anti common sensical while also preserving our culture religion etc . We aren't doing much on the latter front though while our record on the first set of indicators is erratic & patchy. But as they say - India will confound it's most bitter pessimists & effusive optimists . It's more thru default not so much by design.

 

[hurrians]

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“The question is: Why announce the agreement now?” Kugelman said. “The BRICS summit looms large here.”


The deal’s agreement before the BRICS summit began on Tuesday gives India “the diplomatic space to have a meeting between Modi and Xi on the sidelines of the summit,” the analyst said. “Politically, it is easier for New Delhi to agree to that type of encounter given that there is a border agreement.”


Joshi, of the Observer Research Foundation and author of Understanding the India–China Border, said pressure from the Indian business community played a role in reaching the border deal.

How India and China pulled back from a border war — and why now

The agreement allows the resumption of patrols along the disputed border in the Ladakh region.

www.aljazeera.com

 

[shade2]

Joshi, of the Observer Research Foundation and author of Understanding the India–China Border, said pressure from the Indian business community played a role in reaching the border deal.

How India and China pulled back from a border war — and why now

The agreement allows the resumption of patrols along the disputed border in the Ladakh region.

www.aljazeera.com

Fucking dhandhos
But then again it's from Al-Jizzeera

 

[crazywithmath]

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“The question is: Why announce the agreement now?” Kugelman said. “The BRICS summit looms large here.”


The deal’s agreement before the BRICS summit began on Tuesday gives India “the diplomatic space to have a meeting between Modi and Xi on the sidelines of the summit,” the analyst said. “Politically, it is easier for New Delhi to agree to that type of encounter given that there is a border agreement.”


Joshi, of the Observer Research Foundation and author of Understanding the India–China Border, said pressure from the Indian business community played a role in reaching the border deal.

How India and China pulled back from a border war — and why now

The agreement allows the resumption of patrols along the disputed border in the Ladakh region.

www.aljazeera.com

Jaljira quoting joker Kuggu, lmao. Proper clown to clown conversation. In reality, nobody really has a clue - the incumbents maintain tight control over their internal decision making.

 

[Screambowl]

The question is: Why announce the agreement now?” Kugelman said. “The BRICS summit looms large here.”

Indians have taken panga with shanada and harmenica , so I guess it is only messaging. And obviously Russians will do anything to resolve the border dispute between Ind and Shin, it solves their purpose.

 

[Screambowl]

Problem is different this time. They have created road networks & military infra very close to borders now. Our reaction time has to be too fast.

Can't do anything about it, there will be areas which India lose, and there will be areas which Chinese lose, in case skirmish takes place.

 

[shade2]

PM, Xi To Hold Bilateral Meet At BRICS, Days After Border Breakthrough

Prime Minister Narendra Modi will hold a bilateral meet with Chinese President Xi Jinping on the sidelines of the BRICS summit in Russia on Tuesday, Foreign Secretary Vikram Misri has said.

www.ndtv.com

Hope there's no metaphorical Nariyal Paani chutiyapa again.

 

[karn]

Bro I am not kidding. What % of India lives in high-rise metropolitans or bustling cities really ? A tiny fraction only.

Instead of dharma & culture kanging, our generation must focus on ruthless economy + military building.

This chart tells you the fundamental problem of India -

Uneducated dehati chapris will always vote for caste + freebies politics. They will drag the country down no matter how much dharma or culture maxxing you do.

Once we have our economy and military sorted, go fullpower on culture and dharma influence. Nobody listens to a poor broke man.

Sigh ... you are taking extreme views ..
The random pic of an east asian village and one from a poor area was in very poor taste.
and now you are talking about highrises. I can go and find nice looking villages with little trouble in southern India (I only say southern India because I live here lol)which is far from 5% of the country.
And since you are talking about economy and military ...
You do realise that the US at anytime can and has pressured its lapdogs to give major concessions on economic terms and as the security provider has the final say in their military as well .
Did china need to present its bum to the US to become developed ?
The folks talking about cultural stuff are merely pointing out the end state of such a large US influence on a country .

 

[Screambowl]

PM, Xi To Hold Bilateral Meet At BRICS, Days After Border Breakthrough

Prime Minister Narendra Modi will hold a bilateral meet with Chinese President Xi Jinping on the sidelines of the BRICS summit in Russia on Tuesday, Foreign Secretary Vikram Misri has said.

www.ndtv.com

Hope there's no metaphorical Nariyal Paani chutiyapa again.

Exactly after that nariyal pani mehfil Chinese got to know about strategic value of Tamil Nadu and Xi ordered their spy vessels to keep eyes on southern India. LOL Now due to some Landrus in BJP only every now and then a Chinese spy vessels is seen docked in Bay of Bengal.

********************************************************************. Yeh kardenge wo kardenge. Thankfully Ajit Doval is there who is cleaning the mess spread by these landrus.

 

[Azaad]

Fucking dhandhos
But then again it's from Al-Jizzeera

Jaljira quoting joker Kuggu, lmao. Proper clown to clown conversation. In reality, nobody really has a clue - the incumbents maintain tight control over their internal decision making.

Reasons from our side vary from stabilising the border to getting the Americans off our back thereby reducing their leverage & improving our bargaining position on a host of other issues especially in the light of what's recently transpired between us & the US & Canada , to getting Chinese expertise not necessarily their investment in sorting out our mfg capabilities thereby reducing our dependence on China in critical sectors.

Motivations on the part of the Chinese probably include patching up with India so as not to increase the number of nations inimical to it , to preventing more close co operation within the Quad to other unknown factors as of now . It could also be that partial goals of what they attempted in 2020 may have been met.

Let's not forget their tactics of salami slicing especially as far as India goes would be to occupy 2-3 such spots then vacate 1 or 2 & occupy the 3rd on a permanent basis thus altering the reality there forever. What exactly the contours of the agreement we've reached with them will be known in due course of time . In any case all or most of the buffer zones have been established in our areas of influence not necessarily our side of the LAC.

Bottom line still remains what it was earlier - both the Chinese & the US are threats with the former being the more immediate one & the latter the long term & both aren't to be trusted.

 

[Suryavanshi]

95% of India lives in these type of infra -

Random village in SoKo / Japan / Taiwan colonialised / heavily influenced by America -

And you want to tell me preserving our culture is our utmost priority and not economic prosperity ?

You posted photo of a village in soko Japan

Here is how 95% of Japan lives.

Ain't something too hi fi. If the Indian photo had concrete road and markings as well as better construction on individual buildings than it wouldn't be much differnet than Japan.

Here is where top 10% of kolkata lives. Per capita income 2700 $ and planned city Salt Lake.

This is how top 20 to 30% of Chnadiagrh lives.



Per capita income 4700$ planner city Chandigarh.



This is how top 5% of Patna lives.

Per capita of 1700$ Semi planned city Kankarbagh.



How urban indian looks is a product of its failed city planning. Even though Philadelphia streets are full of garbage and crumbling infra it would still look better than India because of city planning with symmetry and harmony.

 

[mist_consecutive]

We are gonna get KLPDed so hard by Chinese that Nehru is gonna laugh from his grave.

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[MasterChief]

kind of a vague confirmation by Chinese in their briefing without any specifics.

“The two sides reached resolutions on relevant matters. China will work with India to implement those”


View: https://x.com/chellaney/status/1848686461404545435?s=46

There would have been no announcement of a patrolling accord from Modi Gov.. if there was no such accord..
It was 20 Indian soldiers that were killed, and China that broke previous agreements.. So, it is Modi who needa to justify to the Indian public as to why hi is now meeting Xi..

 

[Vinash]

We are gonna get KLPDed so hard by Chinese that Nehru is gonna laugh from his grave.

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What other way do you see?

If gora scum are going to create such a huge issue over a lowly thug like Nijjer, it's obvious they have nothing but 100% bad intent towards us.

I'll trust the Chinks over Americunts any day. Obviouly we need to be careful and not trust CCP blindly.

 

[crazywithmath]

If gora scum are going to create such a huge issue over a lowly thug like Nijjer, it's obvious they have nothing but 100% bad intent towards us.

I'll trust the Chinks over Americunts any day. Obviouly we need to be careful and not trust CCP blindly.

Goras are salty because R&AW is running amok in their own backyard. Nijjars and Pannuns are useful idiots.

Chinkus will strike again, btw - just like @mist_consecutive predicted. And in the mean time, they would absolutely love to flood the Indian market with their cheap subsidized exports (given the amount of stimuli their gormint is pumping in their bid to escape some severe economic crisis, India can be a perfect dumping ground for them).

 

[karn]

What other way do you see?

If gora scum are going to create such a huge issue over a lowly thug like Nijjer, it's obvious they have nothing but 100% bad intent towards us.

I'll trust the Chinks over Americunts any day. Obviouly we need to be careful and not trust CCP blindly.

Why these mood swings ? chinese will 100% try infiltration again and then we will be back to loving the quad. In the end monkey balancing is our future until we industrialise and attain energy security.