Indo-China Border & LAC

26 Rafale Ms with is carrier-based and deployed at the western naval theatre is unlikely to help Andaman. Instead Andaman will be covered by MRSAM + Akash and Airforce fighters deployed at Andaman islands.
That may well be their EVENTUAL mandate.
As of the present , except for the Rafales , please name me one Fighter Aircraft which can go up against the PLAAF namely the J-20 + J-16 combination for that in all likelihood is going to spear head the attack. And as of now we've only 36 nos of them.

Super Sukhoi program is expected to be implemented in 2027-28 & as of now it's ~ 84 nos which will be upgraded / modernized. We don't know the deadline for it nor if the remaining MKIs will be similarly upgraded.
 
There are some concerning developments in Ladakh.

China has suddenly pushed a lot of reinforcement in every sector and conducting military excercises close to border.

  • Opposite DBO/Depsang Plains - Already a lot of Chinese infra work remains, but it seems they are reinforced with more troops/vehicles now.
  • Galwan - Perhaps the most concerning, first time after 2020 disengagement Chinese troops have reinforced behind Galwan, and have repaired the road through the narrow valley reaching the Chinese position opposite Galwan.
  • Chang Chemo Valley (PP15, PP17A, Gogra Hosprings) - Reinforcements observed opposite Hotspring.
  • Pangong Tso - Multiple Chinese military bases sprawled up along Chinese side of Pangong Tso last month itself.
  • Demchok Area - Reinforcements arrived previously in May-June time.

So the LAC is HOT.

Also to note, our side also have moved a significant of resource mirroring China's deployment. So nothing to worry as of now.

Probably 1 Corps (Mountain Strike Corps) elements has been moved. We might hear about them in coming weeks.
 
There are some concerning developments in Ladakh.

China has suddenly pushed a lot of reinforcement in every sector and conducting military excercises close to border.

  • Opposite DBO/Depsang Plains - Already a lot of Chinese infra work remains, but it seems they are reinforced with more troops/vehicles now.
  • Galwan - Perhaps the most concerning, first time after 2020 disengagement Chinese troops have reinforced behind Galwan, and have repaired the road through the narrow valley reaching the Chinese position opposite Galwan.
  • Chang Chemo Valley (PP15, PP17A, Gogra Hosprings) - Reinforcements observed opposite Hotspring.
  • Pangong Tso - Multiple Chinese military bases sprawled up along Chinese side of Pangong Tso last month itself.
  • Demchok Area - Reinforcements arrived previously in May-June time.

So the LAC is HOT.

Also to note, our side also have moved a significant of resource mirroring China's deployment. So nothing to worry as of now.

Probably 1 Corps (Mountain Strike Corps) elements has been moved. We might hear about them in coming weeks.
newbie here but can this be seen in context with pakistan increasing infiltration along the IB and LOC?
 

View: https://twitter.com/RupprechtDeino/status/1813562191196655749

Pls note this marks the second or third attempt to exercise with western origin FAs after PLAAF exercises with Thailand & ofc Paxtan. It's of deep relevance to us as it involves M - 2000 FAs that too in Xinjiang

They probably wargamed how chinese think indian m2000 will strike xinjiang and how to defend based on that.
We can also observe how chinese believe they will have numerical superiority during operation.
Result of this exercise depends a lot on how good the UAE airforce is.
 
There are some concerning developments in Ladakh.

China has suddenly pushed a lot of reinforcement in every sector and conducting military excercises close to border.

  • Opposite DBO/Depsang Plains - Already a lot of Chinese infra work remains, but it seems they are reinforced with more troops/vehicles now.
  • Galwan - Perhaps the most concerning, first time after 2020 disengagement Chinese troops have reinforced behind Galwan, and have repaired the road through the narrow valley reaching the Chinese position opposite Galwan.
  • Chang Chemo Valley (PP15, PP17A, Gogra Hosprings) - Reinforcements observed opposite Hotspring.
  • Pangong Tso - Multiple Chinese military bases sprawled up along Chinese side of Pangong Tso last month itself.
  • Demchok Area - Reinforcements arrived previously in May-June time.

So the LAC is HOT.

Also to note, our side also have moved a significant of resource mirroring China's deployment. So nothing to worry as of now.

Probably 1 Corps (Mountain Strike Corps) elements has been moved. We might hear about them in coming weeks.

newbie here but can this be seen in context with pakistan increasing infiltration along the IB and LOC?
I am also thinking, this pressure tactics on LaC could be a feint, and actual salami slicing could happen via LOC using porkies. Or on less contested aka normal region of LAC.
 
Same thinking was there in 1962, sir... What happened...everyone knows...

Things were a bit different back then. We had everything in our hands and in our men to kill off the Chinese ambition for the next 100 years, had the political and military leadership(which was affected by a large degree of nepotism then) not been stuck in the sand like an ostrich.

Though Nehru dismembering the military wasn't by sheer malice either - Pakistan had gone under a military coup at the time and for a new, unstable country like India, making sure the military was subservient to the state was not a bad step at all.

How he went about it with respect to the country's security was what was short sighted.
 
newbie here but can this be seen in context with pakistan increasing infiltration along the IB and LOC?

i think there is some connection . RR forces were shifted out of valley to LAC . some 10,000 had to be brought in from elsewhere after the beheading incident. doubt it will create any difference at LAC but more pressure on army overall .
 
i think there is some connection . RR forces were shifted out of valley to LAC . some 10,000 had to be brought in from elsewhere after the beheading incident. doubt it will create any difference at LAC but more pressure on army overall .
I'm betting before the year is out we're going to see some CAPF introduced within J&K. Ideally this should have been done 3 years ago when the situation in J&K was much more conducive thanks to COVID & the IA wasn't caught up in the midst of the Agniveer program.

Unfortunately we're doing so at a particularly bad time & truth be told it's going to get worse. I honestly don't see the GoI replenish the depletion in the ranks of the IA which even otherwise is critical given what we're facing on 2 fronts even if we leave the 0.5 front aside.

Nor do I see a major change in the Agniveer program increasing the intake significantly or the tenure from 4 to 8 years which is what it should be. All this only indicates that the induction of the CAPFs within J&K is imminent given what we're facing on the LAC today & in the future.

This to me signifies a total lack of application of the mind as the Milawdas often cite in their judgement while being guilty of the same charge most of the time much like the GoI is as of now & all these decisions aren't collective decisions or stemming as they are from the MoD or MHA but from the PMO.

We're entering dangerous territory here & short of a huge kick on the behind I don't see any course correction which means we're in for a great deal of fun when the PLA come calling towards the end of the decade.


We'd have the strength of an army primed to fight modern wars with all the technological trappings it entails with fewer numbers minus those technological innovations which as of now are undergoing standard military tests for summers , winters , monsoon , spring , autumn , snowfall , hot deserts , cold deserts , you name it at the convenience of the Indian Army & at Indian Army Standard Time.
 
Maxwell Neville of Australian origin was British agent who snooped on highly confidential Indian report like US, Pentagon Papers. Who did Maxwell bribe, we don’t know. The copy he got was a draft copy under typing and correction. He could have picked it up from a dustbin. The American sent the perpetrators of Pentagon papers to jail and so should Maxwell be in jail.

Just to your point……. Pentagon papers did not accept American defeat except how they got into Vietnam. The Maxwell report has used only the selective critical portions to prove that Nehru/Menon were wrong. Other words the world’s greatest obtuse and warlike person, that is Mao Tse Tung was right.

How could anybody who occupies somebody else’s land be right.
Don't want to get far off topic, but observe how writers like Maxwell will never write books titled "Pakistan's India war" or "Pakistan's India obsession" or "Pakistan's violent birth". There is a particular animus toward India, nothing more. Maxwell is actually quite sympathetic to Pakistan, which for someone who wrote a book in favour of communist China, is ideologically incongruous. You would think the likes of Maxwell would deride Pakistan as a "reactionary state using religion to deceive the masses, and promote hostility toward India, to deflect from real economic and developmental issues" He's sympathetic to Pakistan's position on Kashmir( though stopping short of fulsome support), the reasons for its formation, and was anti-India during the 1971 war. There is a longstanding dislike of India for its anti-colonial position, and its unwillingness to join NATO like alliances to counter Russia/SU. The latter reason is likely one explanation as to why Maxwell and other writers blame India for 1962. They blame India for Goa in 1961, and Pakistan in 1965 and 1971, and on Kashmir in general. Nothing honourable or ideologically wholesome, or even consistent, here.
 
Don't want to get far off topic, but observe how writers like Maxwell will never write books titled "Pakistan's India war" or "Pakistan's India obsession" or "Pakistan's violent birth". There is a particular animus toward India, nothing more. Maxwell is actually quite sympathetic to Pakistan, which for someone who wrote a book in favour of communist China, is ideologically incongruous. You would think the likes of Maxwell would deride Pakistan as a "reactionary state using religion to deceive the masses, and promote hostility toward India, to deflect from real economic and developmental issues" He's sympathetic to Pakistan's position on Kashmir( though stopping short of fulsome support), the reasons for its formation, and was anti-India during the 1971 war. There is a longstanding dislike of India for its anti-colonial position, and its unwillingness to join NATO like alliances to counter Russia/SU. The latter reason is likely one explanation as to why Maxwell and other writers blame India for 1962. They blame India for Goa in 1961, and Pakistan in 1965 and 1971, and on Kashmir in general. Nothing honourable or ideologically wholesome, or even consistent, here.
Maxwell has been to known to have Marxist sympathies. Besides he was always a guest of honour in Beijing. In short a non Chinese / white Wumao before the term became popular.
 

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