Indo-China Border & LAC

[mcpo117]

Post. They are wearing mask. Still scared of covid.

yeah I mean it has to be around that time. I legit heard some dude in one of the video talking about lockdown or some stuff.

 

[samsaptaka]

View: https://x.com/72HoorSewa/status/1856282806244069742?t=EtWPCTTRuQR-Xn-hAK7gkA&s=19

WW2 era helmets, frontline troops are better equipped...what a load of bull

 

[FalconSlayers]

@Ultraman still following "IF WE HAD VIDEOS WE WOULD HAVE RELEASED THEM" ?

Yeah, we have videos, alright. Of Galwan, of Pangong Tso, of Yangtse. We don't release them because of idiotic Army policies. We only see them when some soldier leaks them for some "views" !

More like Army allows them to be released through their bot accounts. I have no reasons to believe they will allow serving soldiers in forward locations to run YouTube channels posting content like this.

Kind of following what CCP does. Releasing some footages after every few months.

 

[Ultraman]

View: https://x.com/72HoorSewa/status/1856282806244069742?t=EtWPCTTRuQR-Xn-hAK7gkA&s=19

supposed to from chumi gyaste water falls , knowledgeable dude on twitter thinks its at the base near LAC.

weibo chinese expert says maybe jan 2021 . we had two big clashes here .

u can see that building in lower left corner in video



in new patrol agreemetn , we are allowing them in here , "escorted patrols"

@Ultraman still following "IF WE HAD VIDEOS WE WOULD HAVE RELEASED THEM" ?

Yeah, we have videos, alright. Of Galwan, of Pangong Tso, of Yangtse. We don't release them because of idiotic Army policies. We only see them when some soldier leaks them for some "views" !

my point always was - we dont have any video of dead at galwan except maybe of those 4 ccp announced.

ccp wouldnt declare only 4 as dead if we have video showing more.

 

[Azaad]

View: https://youtu.be/z4CRoW8lKOU?si=RCzldnfa_sNlTlub


Interesting discussion with an interesting panel comprising of SuSu , SS Menon & Ashok Kantha on the recent thaw in Sino Indian relations.

Menon has categorically stated the Chinese are playing down this agreement in their official communiques & that we still don't know the terms of the agreement . He's quoted the IA chief here .

For some reason they're also pretty sanguine we'd be able to handle the Chinese in a border war . Not sure I share their optimism.

 

[MasterChief]

According to the current news and agreement, we have gotten access to all patrol points. Patrolling on all buffer zones has resumed and areas where we were blocked (Depsang & Demchok), we have resumed patrolling as well.

Sweets were exchanged (I hate it) on Karakoram Pass, DBO, Konkang La (PP15), Gogra (PP17), and Chusul, signifying that physical presence & patrolling has started.

This is my current information, you can point out any patrol point where we have no gained access I can shed more light on that.



And now that buffer areas are gone, we are back to patrolling our lands, this is invalidated.



We have conceded practically nothing apart from some of our hazy understanding of where our control lies. You are still wrong because now we are back to our pre-April 2020 positions.



Respectfully, this is laughable claim. Why would they move back?

They have developed several billion $ of infrastructure worth inside that blue line which they captured from us in 1962 war. Not even giving up entire Arunachal Pradesh will make them fall back to the blue line. We need to be realisitic.



As pointed out by @Ultraman already, this map by Ajay Shukla is incorrect. Even though, we do have control over the areas starting from PP17 (Gogra) to below. No clashes/ingressions happened in those area.

So. No more buffer zones in Gogra Hot springs as well ? And we have access to the patrol points..?

 

[Hari Sud]

Chinese have moved away from the LAC….. Don’t ever think that they suddenly became nice people. Two reasons forced them into this change.

First, that equal number of Indian soldiers were posted at LAC as the Chinese had (50,000). That means that Chinese numbers advantage vanished. For India, in last few years enough infrastructure has been built to keep troops supplied. Chinese troops have a disadvantage, they were forced from the Tibetan Plateau to climb to 12,000 feet. Indian troops were already there after 2020 fist fights.

Second, Russian played a role to advise the Chinese that, that they cannot concurrently fight everybody in the neighbourhood. Hence better to drop India as enemy and concentrate on the China sea. Chinese had already concluded that it is pointless to fight in Himalayas. It is better to concentrate on the sea front where Japan, US, Taiwan, Philippines are lined up against them.

In short they have not given up on their territorial demand but prefer to concentrate in the east.

Good thinking after 4 years of confrontation and frontline disengagement began and later Full withdrawal of troops will take place.

Their economy not in good shape also placed a role.

 

[TopWatcher]

Chinese have moved away from the LAC….. Don’t ever think that they suddenly became nice people. Two reasons forced them into this change.

First, that equal number of Indian soldiers were posted at LAC as the Chinese had (50,000). That means that Chinese numbers advantage vanished. For India, in last few years enough infrastructure has been built to keep troops supplied. Chinese troops have a disadvantage, they were forced from the Tibetan Plateau to climb to 12,000 feet. Indian troops were already there after 2020 fist fights.

Second, Russian played a role to advise the Chinese that, that they cannot concurrently fight everybody in the neighbourhood. Hence better to drop India as enemy and concentrate on the China sea. Chinese had already concluded that it is pointless to fight in Himalayas. It is better to concentrate on the sea front where Japan, US, Taiwan, Philippines are lined up against them.

In short they have not given up on their territorial demand but prefer to concentrate in the east.

Good thinking after 4 years of confrontation and frontline disengagement began and later Full withdrawal of troops will take place.

Their economy not in good shape also placed a role.

So India waited for this with mirror setup. Good strategy. But wat if india try to attack pok?? Wat will china do??

 

[Blademaster]

View: https://x.com/72HoorSewa/status/1856282806244069742?t=EtWPCTTRuQR-Xn-hAK7gkA&s=19

When did these incidents happen and where?

 

[Screambowl]

But wat if india try to attack pok??

IF India does it, it will gain in Mirpur/Jammu side, stale mate in Ladakh, and lose in Kashmir. BJP will lose the election after the war due to inflation.

Wat will china do??

Top notch intel and satellite imagery of Indian position will be provided to Pakistan.

Will intrude after an year an half if Taiwan is peaceful. This will be a deadly fight in first instance like Galwan, some areas India will gain some will be gained by China. Congress will remain silent won't come much in media.

 

[Hari Sud]

So India waited for this with mirror setup. Good strategy. But wat if india try to attack pok?? Wat will china do??

India is unlikely to attack POK. The people of POK will jump the fence join India. That will happen as economic conditions in POK and rest of Pakistan continue to deteriorate. Soon they will be eating grass and POK will immediately opt for India.

 

[karn]

So India waited for this with mirror setup. Good strategy. But wat if india try to attack pok?? Wat will china do??

There will have to be an open rebellion in POK , And POK is a red herring.. It is more about gilgit balitistan. People there are actually exploited, their land rights are run over roughshod by pakjabis .. they export electricity to the rest of jhaantistan but get the most expensive electricity bills. Opening the "kargil trade route" is foremost in the mind of everyone in gilgit. Only when these things reach a boiling point is when our military will intervene.

 

[Miss Firing]

On twitter, at least on Indian defense twitter, that video of the CCP soldier getting beaten & carried away gained some traction.

Wonder as to who is behind it, at this point in time.

A random event? Or someone wants to anger the Weibo users whose outbursts might force releasing of more videos from their side?

 

[KumaoniReborn]

Captured PLA bat eating shitface

 

[KumaoniReborn]

I have seen restricted “Order of the Days” from a battalion which managed to intercept and launch aggressive patrols into PLA territory. This isn’t army propaganda as that document was restricted.

We know that IA aggressively patrols almost everywhere from Ladakh to Arunachal.

Now we pics of a captured pla shitface by a Punjabi battalion.

Keep thinking bat eating propagnda is right tho.

Only mistake is we didn’t give that invading bat eater Nanking treatment.

 

[mcpo117]

Iss time pay yeh video nikalne ka kya matlab hua? Anyone?

 

[Ultraman]

no clarity on what deal is exactly or what we agreed to in arunachal .

not to mention this wont change military reality of standoff at LAC , 1000s of IA/PLA troops still at LAC

they are still blocking one path to pp10 via jivan nala in depsang with massive presence of arty and mbrl. maybe will take 2 or 5 more years for stand off to actually end . so meanwhile we will have to keep our troops there as well .

if chinese plan is war or salami slicing they can still go thru with it.

 

[TopWatcher]

no clarity on what deal is exactly or what we agreed to in arunachal .

not to mention this wont change military reality of standoff at LAC , 1000s of IA/PLA troops still at LAC

they are still blocking one path to pp10 via jivan nala in depsang with massive presence of arty and mbrl. maybe will take 2 or 5 more years for stand off to actually end . so meanwhile we will have to keep our troops there as well .

if chinese plan is war or salami slicing they can still go thru with it.

No doubt in that, it will continue happen b/w PLA & IA.

 

[Ultraman]

chinese startup that makes robots

chinese will do to robots what they did to drones . take western tech and make it cheaper . entire market will be theirs just like with drones . imagine what it will be like when these become autonomous battle ready


View: https://x.com/YouJiacheng/status/1856348276901196236

 

[mist_consecutive]

my point always was - we dont have any video of dead at galwan except maybe of those 4 ccp announced.

ccp wouldnt declare only 4 as dead if we have video showing more.

Your stand was "There is no pictographical proof released by GoI regarding Galwan clash, and that is probably because we got beaten black & blue and badly defeated at Galwan".

Iss time pay yeh video nikalne ka kya matlab hua? Anyone?

No matlab. It is leaked by an soldier on YouTube.