Indo-China Border & LAC

[mist_consecutive]

View: https://x.com/wartrophy_414/status/1856745529562247545

 

[rockdog]

New article:

What Does the Chinese Public Think of the China-India Border Patrol Deal?

What Does the Chinese Public Think of the China-India Border Patrol Deal?

The first public reactions to the border agreement reflect a deep suspicion of New Delhi’s “cheap tricks” and fear that Beijing is being naive.

thediplomat.com

 

[marliii]

View: https://x.com/battle_machines/status/1858697853025055113?t=UmzY-BOT73PQcp1DbfQEbQ&s=19

 

[mist_consecutive]

View: https://x.com/battle_machines/status/1858697853025055113?t=UmzY-BOT73PQcp1DbfQEbQ&s=19

I thought this was common sense. Nothing in China is what it seems.

The rate they are inducting ships, tanks, jets and developing infrastructure far outpaces any military. I have seen massive barracks and double-lane roads completed within months like it is Age of Empires.

They are pouring so much money that there are literally empty ghost towns and ghost highways going from nowhere to nowhere in the middle of Tibet.

 

[Psacha123]

Some more progress.


View: https://x.com/sidhant/status/1858839621972406407?s=46

 

[hurrians]

"Indian ministry of external affairs said: “Among the steps discussed were the resumption of the Kailash Mansarovar Yatra pilgrimage, data sharing on trans-border rivers, direct flights between India and China, and media exchanges.”"

External affairs minister S Jaishankar & Chinese FM Wang Yi discuss resuming direct flights | India News - Times of India

India News: NEW DELHI: Direct flights between India and China may finally resume for the first time since the Covid-19 pandemic.

timesofindia.indiatimes.com

 

[hurrians]

"India and China should implement the important consensus reached by Prime Minister Narendra Modi and President Xi Jinping at their summit in Russia, Chinese Foreign Minister Wang Yi said in his meeting with External Affairs Minister S Jaishankar on the sidelines of G20 meeting at Rio De Janeiro"

https://www.business-standard.com/external-affairs-defence-security/news/we-should-implement-modi-xi-plan-for-better-ties-china-s-fm-to-jaishankar-124111900898_1.html

 

[Azaad]

New article:

What Does the Chinese Public Think of the China-India Border Patrol Deal?

What Does the Chinese Public Think of the China-India Border Patrol Deal?

The first public reactions to the border agreement reflect a deep suspicion of New Delhi’s “cheap tricks” and fear that Beijing is being naive.

thediplomat.com

India’s economy is in doldrums, India has fallen out with Canada, within the Quad group of four nations India recently differed with Japan and opposed the new Japanese prime minister Shigeru Ishiba’s idea of ‘Asian NATO,’ and foreign funds and technologies have not been flowing into India as expected. But more importantly, the Indian political elite is beginning to fear the return of Trump into the White House, so New Delhi is suddenly desirous of ‘normal’ business relations with China.

Excerpted from the article.

This is the reason I believe the Han to be a better version of Paxtan , a much more better version to be precise & they've plenty of achievements to back it up as well but the delusions are the same viz their impression that they've already dethroned the US & replaced them .

How much of it has to do with censorship or promotion of CCP narrative building or sense of superiority etc is a matter of debate.

 

[shade2]

Excerpted from the article.

This is the reason I believe the Han to be a better version of Paxtan , a much more better version & they've plenty of achievements to back it up but the delusions are the same viz their impression that they've already dethroned the US & replaced them .

How much of it has to do with censorship or promotion of CCP narrative building or sense of superiority etc is a matter of debate.

It's both.
sense of superiority is a result.

They are only shown their own strengths and the weaknesses of the West, therefore their mindsets is that they are Numba Wan and the West is nothing

 

[crazywithmath]

Excerpted from the article.

This is the reason I believe the Han to be a better version of Paxtan , a much more better version to be precise & they've plenty of achievements to back it up as well but the delusions are the same viz their impression that they've already dethroned the US & replaced them .

How much of it has to do with censorship or promotion of CCP narrative building or sense of superiority etc is a matter of debate.

Indian economy in doldrums?

An afeemchi is saying this?

Why would the 'Indian political elite' fear Donald, who has been stuffing his cabinet with folks known for their hardcore anti china views?

And it was Trump who revived QUAD. Obama wanted to find middle ground with china.

L takes after L takes - truly the iron biradar of pakroaches.

 

[shade2]

Indian economy in doldrums?

An afeemchi is saying this?

Why would the 'Indian political elite' fear Donald, who has been stuffing his cabinet with folks known for their hardcore anti china views?

And it was Trump who revived QUAD. Obama wanted to find middle ground with china.

L takes after L takes - truly the iron biradar of pakroaches.

Afeemchi slaves only puke out what masta CCP feeds them.
It's not surprising at all.

 

[rockdog]

I thought this was common sense. Nothing in China is what it seems.

The rate they are inducting ships, tanks, jets and developing infrastructure far outpaces any military. I have seen massive barracks and double-lane roads completed within months like it is Age of Empires.

They are pouring so much money that there are literally empty ghost towns and ghost highways going from nowhere to nowhere in the middle of Tibet.

View: https://x.com/battle_machines/status/1858697853025055113?t=UmzY-BOT73PQcp1DbfQEbQ&s=19

I think the Chinese military expending is around twice as CCP published, but not as high as USA level in USD measurement.

But the efficiency or PPP would be same level USD700billion, same as USA.

The main reason is the productivities of weapons are better than USA, since the strong manufacture of PRC. Most industrial products like steel, high tech components actally sharing the same cost based with civil market.

Typical thing like this:

US amry purchase pricing was USD170,000 , but PLA deployed in Tibet region only cost USD5,000, since cost of R&D, batteries, steels are all in lowest price over the world.










Another sample:

Take the US military's imitation of DJI's RQ-28A unmanned aerial vehicle as an example. This aircraft is inferior to ordinary DJI quadcopter unmanned aerial vehicles in terms of data transmission and endurance. The basic version of the RQ-28A has a unit price of as high as $80,000, and the infrared version is even as high as $140,000. In contrast, in 2018, the US Air Force spent $190,000 to purchase 35 DJI Mavic Pro Platinum Editions. The unit price difference is more than 10-20 times. Therefore, the $25 million procurement budget requested by the US Army may seem large, but the number of unmanned aerial vehicles that can be purchased will shrink by at least 90%.

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One more bizarre example

China is using ASEA radar in civil market for anti wild boar harrasment for agriclture, you can guess how cheap the T/R unit of ASEA when they are applied on J20, KJ500, J35.

The radar cost only USD$5000. weight is 15KG, and a dashboard with wild boar, vechile, human objects recongnition system ...

 

[GaudaNaresh]

I thought this was common sense. Nothing in China is what it seems.

The rate they are inducting ships, tanks, jets and developing infrastructure far outpaces any military. I have seen massive barracks and double-lane roads completed within months like it is Age of Empires.

They are pouring so much money that there are literally empty ghost towns and ghost highways going from nowhere to nowhere in the middle of Tibet.

To be fair, we have seen this to be true in every single command economy - from current day China to Stalinist USSR to post 50s north korea - command economies are extremely prolific in turning out a YUUUGE quantity of military armaments in record time and building a metric crap ton of roads and railways in record time.
They may suck in quality, but i have no reason to doubt Chinese output data in these fields, given that they are consistent with other command economies shitting out military equipment and infra as if they have diarrhea.

 

[rockdog]

To be fair, we have seen this to be true in every single command economy - from current day China to Stalinist USSR to post 50s north korea - command economies are extremely prolific in turning out a YUUUGE quantity of military armaments in record time and building a metric crap ton of roads and railways in record time.
They may suck in quality, but i have no reason to doubt Chinese output data in these fields, given that they are consistent with other command economies shitting out military equipment and infra as if they have diarrhea.

I personally don't agree with it.

Command economies exist in any military organization, it's called Military Economics / Defence Economics (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Economics_of_defense).

Underneath Military Economic, there is civil economy. Deng Xiaoping made life time efforts to make Chinese economy being free market. My previous post above yours, were evidences because of Chinese free and competitive civil industry, enchanced Chinese defence ecomoics, strong and efficient.

If Huawei had biggest share in telecom equipments in the world, PLA's C4SI won't be that bad. If DJI owns 80% share in civil market, PLA's military drone should be cheap and advanced enough. If China had 30 million civil vehicle production capabilities as it now, it surely has ability to make 200,000 Tanks during the war time.

 

[GaudaNaresh]

I personally don't agree with it.

Command economies exist in any military organization, it's called Military Economics / Defence Economics (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Economics_of_defense).

Underneath Military Economic, there is civil economy. Deng Xiaoping made life time efforts to make Chinese economy being free market. My previous post above yours, were evidences because of Chinese free and competitive civil industry, enchanced Chinese defence ecomoics, strong and efficient.

If Huawei had biggest share in telecom equipments in the world, PLA's C4SI won't be that bad. If DJI owns 80% share in civil market, PLA's military drone should be cheap and advanced enough. If China had 30 million civil vehicle production capabilities as it now, it surely has ability to make 200,000 Tanks during the war time.

your agreement or disagreement to objectively factually driven comparisons is irrelevant.
in terms of sheer infrastructure output measured in miles/year and/or production numbers of military hardware, the 4 of top 5 producers in the last century are ALL command economies, with USA being the only exception to this rule and that too, only by virtue of its size ( which doesnt apply to some entrants in the said top 4 - like Nazi Germany or North Korea).

 

[Nibbler]

Excerpted from the article.

This is the reason I believe the Han to be a better version of Paxtan , a much more better version to be precise & they've plenty of achievements to back it up as well but the delusions are the same viz their impression that they've already dethroned the US & replaced them .

How much of it has to do with censorship or promotion of CCP narrative building or sense of superiority etc is a matter of debate.

Amerifat fear mongering also plays into this.

They also genuinely have some weird admiration of the changs. For example indain americans out perform chongs from grade school to every step of corpporate ladder. But ANY talk about "asian american" over achievement etc what they are picturing is a chang.

 

[samsaptaka]

with USA being the only exception to this rule and that too,

USA is not an exception mate, its just one party away from a dictatorship, and even with potus and 2 parties we all know its the MIC and deep state which actually drives their policy and implementation.

 

[shade2]

USA is not an exception mate, its just one party away from a dictatorship, and even with potus and 2 parties we all know its the MIC and deep state which actually drives their policy and implementation.

They are already a dictatorship and the dictator is the Deep State, their two party system is a scam to only keep the plebs occupied.
MIC is subservient to the deep state, the deep state is the reason they have world hegemony today and the MIC is the "hardpower" portion with which they maintain their hegemony.

 

[hurrians]

"However, in recent years, the Indian side has imposed artificial obstacles, such as suspending direct flights to China, limiting visas, halting activities, and expelling journalists."

Ebil moodiji shud rejin, chicoms dukh.

New Delhi needs to warm up China-India relations with sincerity - Global Times

www.globaltimes.cn

 

[Hari Sud]

"However, in recent years, the Indian side has imposed artificial obstacles, such as suspending direct flights to China, limiting visas, halting activities, and expelling journalists."

Ebil moodiji shud rejin, chicoms dukh.

New Delhi needs to warm up China-India relations with sincerity - Global Times

www.globaltimes.cn

Not likely to happen that India will allow a huge Chinese investment in India, until the Chinese completely disengage at all of LAC.

Moreover, Chinese have nothing to offer. They have stolen tech and poor quality products which are cheap but last only three years.