Next Generation Missile Vessels

[haldilal]

Ya'll Nibbiars

 

[125mm_Smoothbore]

ARMAMENT :
8 cruise missile
32 vl-srsam
2 ak 630 ciws
1 oto melera srgm
2 12.7mm automated machine gun mounts

 

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[AbRaj]

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Two different designs

 

[vampyrbladez]

The current configuration of the NMGV based on the renders looks very similar to a Khukri Class missile boat/ corvette equipped with BrahMos instead of the P15/P20M missile.

Sensors :

• BEL - Naval X-Band Multi Function Radar (X-BMFR) : Primary AESA radar and VL-SRSAM (FFBNW)

• EL/M-2221 STGR fire-control radar - Fire control radar for 76mm SRGM and AK 630 CIWS

• Bomber Electronic warfare (EW) suites - BEL Ajanta M2 ESM

• BEL Kavach MOD 2

(Part 1)

 

[vampyrbladez]

(Part 2)

Armament :

• 1 × OTO Melara 76 mm Super Rapid Gun Mount (SRGM)

• 2 x AK-630M CIWS

• 2 x 12.7 mm OFT RCWS (Possible)

• 2 x Twin Slanted BrahMos launcher (450-800/900 KM)

• 8-16 x VL-SRSAM (80 KM) (FFBNW)

 

[jaijaganath]

(Part 2)

Armament :

• 1 × OTO Melara 76 mm Super Rapid Gun Mount (SRGM)

• 2 x AK-630M CIWS

• 2 x 12.7 mm OFT RCWS (Possible)

• 2 x Twin Slanted BrahMos launcher (450-800/900 KM)

• 8-16 x VL-SRSAM (80 KM) (FFBNW)

Ngmv were supposed to carry 8 brahmos in total right ?

 

[125mm_Smoothbore]

Ngmv were supposed to carry 8 brahmos in total right ?

Exactly but according to the new poster from the metal cutting video it looks like they are going to carry 4 (replacing the styx on kukri class)

See how similar it looks to kukri class

Ngmv


Kukri class ship



Styx weight 2.5 tonnes so it nearly similar in weight to brahmos thus not impacting the balance of new ship too much

Thus we can take a guess that ngmv is just an evolved kukri class with better air defence and land attack capabilities

And newer electronics and new main radar (vlsrsam one)

 

[jaijaganath]

Exactly but according to the new poster from the metal cutting video it looks like they are going to carry 4 (replacing the styx on kukri class)

See how similar it looks to kukri class

Ngmv
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Kukri class ship
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Styx weight 2.5 tonnes so it nearly similar in weight to brahmos thus not impacting the balance of new ship too much

Thus we can take a guess that ngmv is just an evolved kukri class with better air defence and land attack capabilities

And newer electronics and new main radar (vlsrsam one)

Ig there was a pic with 4 slant brahmos missiles

 

[125mm_Smoothbore]

Ig there was a pic with 4 slant brahmos missiles

Earlier models did have 8 brahmos configuration

 

[ezsasa]

Exactly but according to the new poster from the metal cutting video it looks like they are going to carry 4 (replacing the styx on kukri class)

See how similar it looks to kukri class

Ngmv
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Kukri class ship
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Styx weight 2.5 tonnes so it nearly similar in weight to brahmos thus not impacting the balance of new ship too much

Thus we can take a guess that ngmv is just an evolved kukri class with better air defence and land attack capabilities

And newer electronics and new main radar (vlsrsam one)

make a table comparing known specs of both these boats, it will be clearer for future reference.

 

[vampyrbladez]

S.No	Weapon System	Sensor	Status
1	1 × OTO Melara 76 mm Super Rapid Gun Mount (SRGM)	EL/M-2221 STGR fire-control radar	Confirmed
2	2 x AK-630M CIWS	EL/M-2221 STGR fire-control radar	Confirmed
3	2 x 12.7 mm OFT RCWS	EL/M-2221 STGR fire-control radar	Likely
4	2 x Twin Slanted BrahMos launcher (450-800/900 KM)	BEL - Naval X-Band Multi Function Radar (X-BMFR) : Primary AESA radar	Confirmed
5	8-16 x VL-SRSAM (80 KM)	BEL - Naval X-Band Multi Function Radar (X-BMFR) : Primary AESA radar	FFBNW
6	EW Suite	Bomber Electronic warfare (EW) suites - BEL Ajanta M2 ESM	Likely
7	Self Protection Suite	BEL Kavach MOD 2	Likely
8	1 x ALH Mk 3/4	-	Confirmed

 

[125mm_Smoothbore]

S.No	Weapon System	Sensor	Status
1	1 × OTO Melara 76 mm Super Rapid Gun Mount (SRGM)	EL/M-2221 STGR fire-control radar	Confirmed
2	2 x AK-630M CIWS	EL/M-2221 STGR fire-control radar	Confirmed
3	2 x 12.7 mm OFT RCWS	EL/M-2221 STGR fire-control radar	Likely
4	2 x Twin Slanted BrahMos launcher (450-800/900 KM)	BEL - Naval X-Band Multi Function Radar (X-BMFR) : Primary AESA radar	Confirmed
5	8-16 x VL-SRSAM (80 KM)	BEL - Naval X-Band Multi Function Radar (X-BMFR) : Primary AESA radar	FFBNW
6	EW Suite	Bomber Electronic warfare (EW) suites - BEL Ajanta M2 ESM	Likely
7	Self Protection Suite	BEL Kavach MOD 2	Likely
8	1 x ALH Mk 3/4	-	Confirmed

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ENGINE- LM-2500 and french diesel engines a reliable CODAG combination

 

[jaijaganath]

Earlier models did have 8 brahmos configuration

Yes 2 slant launchers with 4 brahmos each infact l&t had demonstrated the concept

 

[vampyrbladez]

S.No	Weapon System	Sensor	Status
1	1 × OTO Melara 76 mm Super Rapid Gun Mount (SRGM)	EL/M-2221 STGR fire-control radar	Confirmed
2	2 x AK-630M CIWS	EL/M-2221 STGR fire-control radar	Confirmed
3	2 x 12.7 mm OFT RCWS	EL/M-2221 STGR fire-control radar	Likely
4	2 x Twin Slanted BrahMos launcher (450-800/900 KM)	BEL - Naval X-Band Multi Function Radar (X-BMFR) : Primary AESA radar	Confirmed
5	8-16 x VL-SRSAM (80 KM)	BEL - Naval X-Band Multi Function Radar (X-BMFR) : Primary AESA radar	FFBNW
6	EW Suite	Bomber Electronic warfare (EW) suites - BEL Ajanta M2 ESM	Likely
7	Self Protection Suite	BEL Kavach MOD 2	Likely
8	1 x ALH Mk 3/4	-	Confirmed

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Original RFP :

It appears that the initial plans were for a heavy corvette/ light frigate design but post the sublimation of the P 17B and NGC (DAC approval), the design was scaled down to serve as a missile Corvette like the Khukri and Kora Class.

It can be part of a flotilla of ASW-SWC and Kamorta Class Corvettes providing point defence in the Indian Ocean under the leadership of a Talwar Class Frigate for dedicated air defence during anti submarine operations.

It can also be used for constabulary duties in potential conflict such as the South China Sea and the Red Sea without risking more important naval assets ( Kolkata Class, Vishakapatnam Class, Nilgiri Class, etc).

The NGMV is equipped with LM2500 engines which will provide it with the required speed and maneuverability to be a part of a CBG as well.

From an excerpt on the Kora Class, it appears that the NGMV will follow a very similar philosophy as a low tier naval combatant in the Indian Navy's ranks.

With its large AShM missile load, the ships can be used for massed attacks on coastal targets and flotillas either in independently or as flotilla leaders for smaller missile launching platforms such as the Tarantul Class corvettes or the Osa-II Class missile boats. They could also be used for extended patrolling and guarding the approaches to sensitive harbours and coastal installations, or as picket ships in scenarios too risky to involve sending prized assets like the Delhi Class destroyers which would be able to concentrate on more vital roles.

Fitting an AD system seems to have been compromised by the helicopter deck. Presently, INS Kora only carries two manually-aimed twin launchers for the SA-N 5/Igla short-range anti-aircraft missile, although it appears that at one time, the SA-N-4 Osa SAM system was considered for this class. Likewise there are no integral ASW assets and the ship will rely on the Chetak/ALH fitted with dunking sonar and torpedoes to fulfill its ASW functions.

These omissions are explained in part by the fact that these vessels are cheap platforms and are supposed to operate with other ASW escorts under friendly air cover. Nevertheless, it is very debatable whether this is a sound operational philosophy on the IN’s part especially as comparable units in service with other navies have significant AD and ASW assets.

https://www.bharat-rakshak.com/navy/e

quipment/specs/project-25a/

 

[Blood+]

What an absolute disappointment.

 

[Fatalis]

It will be using Lynx FCR instead of EL/M-2221 STGR fire-control radar. It will be having 08 missiles.

 

[rone]

S.No	Weapon System	Sensor	Status
1	1 × OTO Melara 76 mm Super Rapid Gun Mount (SRGM)	EL/M-2221 STGR fire-control radar	Confirmed
2	2 x AK-630M CIWS	EL/M-2221 STGR fire-control radar	Confirmed
3	2 x 12.7 mm OFT RCWS	EL/M-2221 STGR fire-control radar	Likely
4	2 x Twin Slanted BrahMos launcher (450-800/900 KM)	BEL - Naval X-Band Multi Function Radar (X-BMFR) : Primary AESA radar	Confirmed
5	8-16 x VL-SRSAM (80 KM)	BEL - Naval X-Band Multi Function Radar (X-BMFR) : Primary AESA radar	FFBNW
6	EW Suite	Bomber Electronic warfare (EW) suites - BEL Ajanta M2 ESM	Likely
7	Self Protection Suite	BEL Kavach MOD 2	Likely
8	1 x ALH Mk 3/4	-	Confirmed

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no heli deck, sam vls in both starboard and port side of ship after main island and main engine exhaust