Operation Sindoor & Aftermath (41 Viewers)

[Ajayant Tripathi]

Operation Sindoor shattered the myth I had about Pakistan Air Force and its air defence systems. I always knew they were weak, but the fact that 11 Pakistani airbases were targeted was beyond anything I ever imagined. Even during the 1971 war, Indian Air Force didn’t strike this deep inside Pakistan.

Similar thing happened to me. OP. Sindoor updated my software, atleast. Earlier i was much more circumspect but now i am more favorable to a kinetic option.

OP. Sindoor exposed fragility of pakistani army. I was worried about their PAF too. But our changed the game. Our AD stood like a wall. Porkies looked like a chained pitbull getting beaten left and right.

My new assessment is porkies are now reduced to one or two successful strikes. It will be too little to actually damage our assets. But we on another hand, will rollover their whole military infrastructure. So, the odds are in India's favor now. No amount of propping up will work now for porkies. They are sitting duck.

 

[Ajatshatru]

Similar thing happened to me. OP. Sindoor updated my software, atleast. Earlier i was much more circumspect but now i am more favorable to a kinetic option.

OP. Sindoor exposed fragility of pakistani army. I was worried about their PAF too. But our changed the game. Our AD stood like a wall. Porkies looked like a chained pitbull getting beaten left and right.

My new assessment is porkies are now reduced to one or two successful strikes. It will be too little to actually damage our assets. But we on another hand, will rollover their whole military infrastructure. So, the odds are in India's favor now. No amount of propping up will work now for porkies. They are sitting duck.

Pakistan military collapsed like a pack of cards in just two days—on the 9th and 10th of May. I was genuinely shocked, even Hamas didn’t fall this quickly against Israel. And what’s more surprising is that it was only the air force in action—neither the navy nor the army were involved—yet they still couldn’t hold their ground.

 

[concard]

Similar thing happened to me. OP. Sindoor updated my software, atleast. Earlier i was much more circumspect but now i am more favorable to a kinetic option.

OP. Sindoor exposed fragility of pakistani army. I was worried about their PAF too. But our changed the game. Our AD stood like a wall. Porkies looked like a chained pitbull getting beaten left and right.

My new assessment is porkies are now reduced to one or two successful strikes. It will be too little to actually damage our assets. But we on another hand, will rollover their whole military infrastructure. So, the odds are in India's favor now. No amount of propping up will work now for porkies. They are sitting duck.

We need cheaper subsonic missiles like Nirbhay which costs 75% less than . Relying too much on is a bad idea. We need to do saturation attacks next time first before our fighters go in for SEAD/DEAD. I hope we have 100 missiles for every one of their air base. Once their air power is destroyed, they wouldn't think of anything else other than cease fire. Our Navy should finish the job by bombing their ports and taking out what remains of their Navy. I don't see a ground invasion happening from our side at least not in a scenario where other countries like US and China themselves are not engaged in a war.

 

[TopWatcher]

One thing we not taking care it's our navigation system. This change the whole game.

We must priotrazie it, make it more robust. Or already hv more sattelite that we don't know.

 

[redpanda]

Satellite info, that's probably what chongs used, anyways it certainly adds a factor to this conflict.

Spysats will be required more than ever after this point, also 2 front war is already here, but it shouldn't stop us from hitting pigs, they can get info but weather they decide to hit them is a different matter. Pakistan knows what happened on 10th May morning.

Further we need to escalate from this, hitting fauji foundation is must now, this will give a message to China itself.

We also need to fast-track antisat soft kill solution. Because we can't always hard kill satelites without escalating things. With soft kill option there is an option of plausible deniability.

 

[Azaad]

We need cheaper subsonic missiles like Nirbhay which costs 75% less than . Relying too much on is a bad idea. We need to do saturation attacks next time first before our fighters go in for SEAD/DEAD. I hope we have 100 missiles for every one of their air base. Once their air power is destroyed, they wouldn't think of anything else other than cease fire. Our Navy should finish the job by bombing their ports and taking out what remains of their Navy. I don't see a ground invasion happening from our side at least not in a scenario where other countries like US and China themselves are not engaged in a war.

IMHO opinion sub sonic CMs have extremely
limited utility going by what's happening in Ukraine. On the basis of anecdotal evidence it seems for practically every 1 CM which hits the target , 1 CM gets intercepted.

Now while we may still find them useful against Paxtan I very much doubt their efficacy against China.

Then again there's our strategic planning & execution which is not just at another level it's on another planet altogether. Countries develop sub sonic CMs then Supersonic CMs. We go about it the other way around & then take our own sweet time to realise it .

Plenty of examples here from SSBN / SSN to SSK , BMs to small arms like assault rifles , 80 KN TF to now the 25 KN HTFE & on & on

We could've easily gone in for Russian STFEs post Galwan & inducted ~ 2 - 300 Nirbhay CMs pending development of Manik STFE post which we could've gone on for certification trials of Nirbhay with Manik STFE before mass production. But we didn't.

Whom do you blame for this ? The armed forces who ought to project the need , MEA for not forecasting the threat , MoF who's perennially hard up for cash , ADE for screwing up the Nirbhay repeatedly , MoD for not anticipating the situation or the PMO whose idea of strengthening defence is more road work & spending Diwalis with the troops at remote locations for photo ops.

Multiple Alhamdulillah moments .

 

[Tumba]

IMHO opinion sub sonic CMs have extremely
limited utility going by what's happening in Ukraine. On the basis of anecdotal evidence it seems for practically every 1 CM which hits the target , 1 CM gets intercepted.

Now while we may still find them useful against Paxtan I very much doubt their efficacy against China.

Then again there's our strategic planning & execution which is not just at another level it's on another planet altogether. Countries develop sub sonic CMs then Supersonic CMs. We go about it the other way around & then take our own sweet time to realise it .

Plenty of examples here from SSBN / SSN to SSK , BMs to small arms like assault rifles , 80 KN TF to now the 25 KN HTFE & on & on

We could've easily gone in for Russian STFEs post Galwan & inducted ~ 2 - 300 Nirbhay CMs pending development of Manik STFE post which we could've gone on for certification trials of Nirbhay with Manik STFE before mass production. But we didn't.

Whom do you blame for this ? The armed forces who ought to project the need , MEA for not forecasting the threat , MoF who's perennially hard up for cash , ADE for screwing up the Nirbhay repeatedly , MoD for not anticipating the situation or the PMO whose idea of strengthening defence is more road work & spending Diwalis with the troops at remote locations for photo ops.

Multiple Alhamdulillah moments .

is the only way forward … we need a million of them …

A FCKIN MILLION

 

[Ajatshatru]

View: https://x.com/Ray70409890/status/1941134100099997968

So it turns out Pakistan’s nuclear installations were indeed targeted — The missile or bomb that struck Kirana Hills wasn’t a misfire

 

[Simon Riley]

So it turns out Pakistan’s nuclear installations were indeed targeted — The missile or bomb that struck Kirana Hills wasn’t a misfire

obviously it wasnt a misfire, how do you 'mistakenly' target a nuclear installation

 

[Ajatshatru]

obviously it wasnt a misfire, how do you 'mistakenly' target a nuclear installation

The combination of strikes on nuclear-related military infrastructure and third-party disinformation risked turning a conventional conflict into a nuclear crisis,’ said Matt Korda, Associate Senior Researcher with SIPRI’s Weapons of Mass Destruction Programme and Associate Director for the Nuclear Information Project at FAS. ‘This should act as a stark warning for states seeking to increase their reliance on nuclear weapons.

So essentially, Matt Korda has warned Pakistan that its reliance on nuclear weapons for deterrence could provoke India to target its nuclear installations.

 

[Nishaanbaaz]

It's also common sense,
The napaki Jernails have heavy ((( investment ))) in London and American cities.

There is no oversight on them, no transparency, no accountability from their grass-eating jahil slaves.

Imrand when he knew the Jernails will be after him, used to dog whistle to his supporters over this onlee, that if he is removed, Faujcels will sell their Aatami Taqat to the US.

Perhaps, but fantastic conspiracy theories of this magnitude (which one would love to hear) are one thing - I've heard many of them over the years that proved too good to be true - and hearing a guy from the CIA actually confirm it with a very casual & "matter of fact" type statement (like it's "obviously true") is another. Imran in particular was a half-mad drug addict that said a lot of things, including the fact that he was gonna make Naya Pakistan, so I never bothered too much with what he said (although you gotta respect the crazy fuck's determination)

But I do wonder now if this means the US will provide Pak some amount of protection from India in the future. If that's the case, India should double down even more on sub-conventionally breaking Pakistan - there's nothing any nukes or external benefactor can really do about that

 

[shade2]

Perhaps, but fantastic conspiracy theories of this magnitude (which one would love to hear) are one thing - I've heard many of them over the years that proved too good to be true - and hearing a guy from the CIA actually confirm it with a very casual & "matter of fact" type statement (like it's "obviously true") is another. Imran in particular was a half-mad drug addict that said a lot of things, including the fact that he was gonna make Naya Pakistan, so I never bothered too much with what he said (although you gotta respect the crazy fuck's determination)

But I do wonder now if this means the US will provide Pak some amount of protection from India in the future. If that's the case, India should double down even more on sub-conventionally breaking Pakistan - there's nothing any nukes or external benefactor can really do about that

No it just means that Pakistan is their pet dog, they only give the nuclear bite when they are allowed to by their masters.

It's actually dangerous, this is a new paradigm of "nuclear deniability" means the Americunts can tell the Pakis to lob a few tactical nukes at us or something just to test our response for e.g.

I mean even fucking North Korea's nukes are in the hands of Kim Jong onleee, while these beghairat Pakis have sold theirs to America.

Doesn't actually change much for us, just it should sober the GoI about whatever delulus they have about ((( co-operation ))) with the US.

 

[shade2]

obviously it wasnt a misfire, how do you 'mistakenly' target a nuclear installation

Just as was mistakenly fired in 2022

 

[shade2]

What are 'game-changer' Air Lora missiles? Report claims Indian Air Force is planning to procure these from Israel

Indian Air Force is mulling the procurement of Israel-made Air Lora air-launched ballistic missiles, which offer accurate and survivable attack capabilities

www.theweek.in

#PhullSapport from my side to Import this missile and launch it at the Pakis the next time

Pure Desh ko Maza Zaroor Aayega iss se, not just IAF

 

[Lcafanboy]

View: https://x.com/AadiAchint/status/1941163771269112252

Meanwhile in US Trump is looking for some Missing items from White House after Failed Marshall Munira left US......

 

[Simon Riley]

has the government ramped up the safety measures of this year's amarnath yatra?

 

[Ajatshatru]

I think drones were also used to drop bombs on Pakistan, because eyewitnesses in Pakistan described seeing an aircraft come in, drop bombs, and then fly away.

 

[Ajayant Tripathi]

We need cheaper subsonic missiles like Nirbhay which costs 75% less than . Relying too much on is a bad idea. We need to do saturation attacks next time first before our fighters go in for SEAD/DEAD. I hope we have 100 missiles for every one of their air base. Once their air power is destroyed, they wouldn't think of anything else other than cease fire. Our Navy should finish the job by bombing their ports and taking out what remains of their Navy. I don't see a ground invasion happening from our side at least not in a scenario where other countries like US and China themselves are not engaged in a war.

Yes, Saturate them with cheap missiles, rockets and drones. for piercing their veil and disabling their assets. All of these assets should be employed in complete synchronization to annihilate PAF.

I think should be used to take out HVTs and cheaper ammunition to deal mass casualities on punjabi forces. I in no way advocating to use for everything. It has its use and it has been very effective and efficient in its role.

 

[Ajatshatru]

What exactly was the weapon used to target the nuclear bunkers in Kirana Hills? A missile alone can’t penetrate hardened bunkers — it was likely a bunker-buster bomb dropped from an aircraft.

 

[Ajatshatru]

Yes, Saturate them with cheap missiles, rockets and drones. for piercing their veil and disabling their assets. All of these assets should be employed in complete synchronization to annihilate PAF.

I think should be used to take out HVTs and cheaper ammunition to deal mass casualities on punjabi forces. I in no way advocating to use for everything. It has its use and it has been very effective and efficient in its role.

I’m not sure if a BrahMos can penetrate a bunker, but it might be possible given its immense kinetic energy due to its high speed. a bunker-buster version of the Agni-5 missile with a 7.5-tonne warhead is also under development.