Operation Sindoor and Aftermath (86 Viewers)

[Viper316]

Chinese air rescue aircraft rushing to Lahore, Anyone can ascertain the losses ?? Unknown hitman ~ Airlifting injured HVT !!!

 

[craigs]

I am not going to go on conspiracy theories about Dr. Jaishankar. But he did look a bit angry and not his usual cool self when he gave that briefing. He normally knows exactly what to say but not during that briefing. He must have been under a lot of stress because Pakis called out his BS and hit back with their military despite his unnecessary cautions to them. India’s foreign service has always been a bit naive when it comes to international diplomacy. I find them not knowing what to say and how to say it. They say things that the world does not understand or appreciate. Look at the kinds of people Americans appoint as top diplomats. They are proven leaders who can bend the narrative to their styles.
Jaishankar kept saying the targets were not paki military but he also kept saying paki military sent these terrorists. People can get confused as to why we have a strategy like this and this dents his credibility. Who are we trying to appease by making such statements? No one cares. The world would have appreciated more if we said the Paki military had a hand and just gone after them. I have said this before: making such gandhigiri type statements makes us look foolish. No one believes such statements from us. I say we stop with such statements. Not a single credible international press applauded us for not targeting the porki military. Did even pacifist Japan applaud our “principled” stand? This has not happened in the past either when we said the same during Pulwama attack that we are not targeting Paki military. Did this prevent the Pakis from targeting our military?
Why do we say such things? Why? The west no longer gives a shit about India due to our Russian positioning. So, why are we giving a shit about them? Strength respects strength. Do not do this unnecessary Gandhigiri. It is ridiculous.

 

[Corvus Splendens]

 

[ThE BrOkEn HeArT]

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Dude's India, by the way.

Even if the Pakistani army were publicly humiliated and forced to surrender in front of international media, this corrupt and morally bankrupt institution would still manage to convince its already indoctrinated, uneducated populace that it had won the war. Pakistan’s core issue lies in its uneducated population, which has a tendency to unquestioningly submit to the authority of its army. Engaging them with logic is often futile. The promotion of Maulana Muneer serves as a clear example of this dynamic.

 

[Blood+]

Even if the Pakistani army were publicly humiliated and forced to surrender in front of international media, this corrupt and morally bankrupt institution would still manage to convince its already indoctrinated, uneducated populace that it had won the war. Pakistan’s core issue lies in its uneducated population, which has a tendency to unquestioningly submit to the authority of its army. Engaging them with logic is often futile. The promotion of Maulana Muneer serves as a clear example of this dynamic.

Subcontinent wale sulle zadatar aise hi hote hai, just look at ours or the kanglus.

 

[jazzy_b]

One more high valuable target down in pakistan by unknown men.

DJ ISPR could easily throw a presser by blaming it on us but we keep violating them for fun.

 

[indrajit]

I think DRDO has a better idea today of what they require vis-a-vis 5th gen tech.

If the Russians are going to give us decent tech wrt certification and mass production like advanced additive manufacturing, help establish test facilities, etc then I don't care if we go ahead with the Su-57s.

I'm sure the DRDO and the government know what they want and what they have to extract out of the Russians.

Worth only if they give us the source code. Period. The reply to Pakistan getting J-35 (if) is not Su-57, it is more robust air defence. The arguments for Su-57(won't get them for 3-4 years if ordered today) has to be clearer than a knee-jerk move. Without heavy Indian modifications like in the Su-30MKI, if will likely be an expensive albatross around our neck.

 

[fire starter]

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[indrajit]

I am for the multi party delegations especially after the fuck up from MEA. Everything about the way they handled Operation Sindoor is atrocious.

• Press briefings

The foreign secretary, Vikram Misri appeared nervous and couldn't pronounce Hindi words during the presser. He started with floral language that wasn't media friendly in an environment where narrative is key.

Col. Qureshi and Wg Cdr. Singh lacked media training and appeared nervous or uncertain at times and often cutting into each other's thoughts. There appears to be no rehearsal, pre-briefings, etc to prepare them on body language, tone and objectives.

The whole briefing segments appeared ad hoc and lacked the finesse that the DGMOs brought to the table. This idea of 'Nari Shakti' virtue signaling was not welcomed by the West and didn't earn any brownie points from anyone besides WhatsApp boomers.

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Later on it was found that his daughter Didon Misri was a legal aide to Rohingya refugees and he had to block his twitter account in disgrace due to trolling on SM.

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• Warning Pakistan before attacking the terror camps

Who the hell would do anything like this? You are telling the OPFOR that you are going to strike them and won't do any SEAD/DEAD and are expecting no response in good faith?

These MEA idiots almost setup the IAF for heavy losses. It's a small miracle that we only have 2 probably losses (Rafale - Bhatinda, Punjab and Mig 29UPG - Ramban, J&K).


View: https://x.com/amitmalviya/status/1923759166281125910

This happens to be the only criticism from Tom Cooper regarding Operation Sindoor.

India-Pakistan, Additional Details, Part 2 & Q&A

(…continued from Part 1)

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Criticism of Vikram Misri because of his daughter is uncharitable and meaningless. His daughter makes her own choices.

Where did you get that we warned Pakistanis before? From Rahul Gandhi's English comprehension? At the start is not the same as before the start.

Even assuming that the above is true, how is it the EAM's or FS's fault? They would do it independently of the PM, RM & the NSA?

 

[Muzh]

Many people are confused about the way geopolitical events are unfolding, particularly their implications on India’s national security. To understand the seemingly confused state of current geopolitics, you first will have to understand why Donald Trump was allowed to become the president of the United States without any resistance from the globalists. Those who remember his first term, would recall that his entire presidency was marred with daily conflicts with the globalists. In a stark contrast to his first term, the current term is running smoothly and we do not hear any complaints from the globalists except for some token reminders. Why?

Trump and globalists have reached a compromise. Under this compromise, Trump has autonomy over immigration, immigrants, tariffs on India, and few other things. On the subjects of Russia, Iran, tariffs on China, and few other things that are vital to globalists; Trump will have no say.

Now, it becomes important to understand why the globalists were inclined to cut a deal with Trump. To understand this, we will have to understand why Biden was favored over Trump in the previous election. Globalists held the belief that, if they could keep Trump out of the way, and with a pliant man in charge (Biden), they would be able to bring United States’ full might to fore to shape global geopolitics to their advantage. This strategy failed miserably. The objective of globalists under Biden presidency was to defeat Russia. Obviously Russia was not defeated. On the contrary, Russia is winning. Those of you who have followed Russia - Ukraine war already know that globalists did everything they could to bring Russia to its knees but at the end Russia survived.

Once globalists realized that Russia was winning and there was not much they could do about it. They decided to put the Project Russia on the back burner for the time being. I was concerned that they may pick Project India to execute during the Trump presidency. But to my relief, they picked Project Iran instead. Yes, my readers, Iran is the objective that needs to be achieved during Trump’s current term.

Globalists realized that last time many countries including India defied their diktats and therefore their attempts to isolate Russia did not work out as expected. So they felt a need to create an image of Trump as a strong man. They figured this would have psychological effect on world leaders and thus the affected leaders of interest could be persuaded to do things in the favor of globalists. Let us see how it would pan out.

Coming back to Iran, which is the main result globalists want Trump to produce; globalists want Trump to end the Russia - Ukraine war so that globalists can focus on Iran. In an ideal outcome for globalists, Russia would drop Iran as an ally, which would make it easier for globalists to take on Iran. And after Iran is taken care of, they (globalists) can always come back to Project Russia. Of course, there will be a new president and a new facade after Trump leaves the office.

Globalists were not as infuriated with India during Biden’s presidency, because they believed that India would come around eventually. Now they are infuriated; conflict with Pakistan should be seen under this light. In my humble opinion, and after gauging the globalist viewpoints, I formed an impression, they were wishing for a light nuclear exchange between India and Pakistani. This would have served two-purpose: first, dampen India’s spirit; second, emphasize the perils of nuclear arms in the wrong hands such as Iran. A narrative that Iran with nuclear weapons was a danger to “civilized western world” would have been perfect for preparing American people for a military conflict with Iran.

As Trump presidency continues, we will see movements in following directions:

1. A ceasefire in Russia - Ukraine war, ideally which would leave Russia at a disadvantage. So that globalists can restart the work on Project Russia down the road
2. Pressuring India, Russia and others to cut ties with Iran.
3. If Russia does not agree to cut its ties with Iran, US will continue to fund Ukraine
4. If India does not cut its ties with Iran, globalists will continue to aid Pakistan. Note, US will not directly help Pakistan. Because US wants to maintain an image of being a friend
5. Tariff on India will continue as a means to further pressure India

Disclaimer: I do not have any insider information on this subject. My views are based on observation of past and current events.

 

[Gandaberunda]

All the western countries who have observed the 3 day banging of porks will have serious problems with rise of Indian defensive capabilities more than offensive It was well known that there is hardly any weapon that can intercept (THAAD and S400 can do) and no surprises were there but real surprise came with how we used all our legacy system fusion with modern system and few desi jugaad. The drone warfare and intercepts of missiles was much sophisticated than what’s going on in Russia/Ukraine.

 

[vampyrbladez]

Criticism of Vikram Misri because of his daughter is uncharitable and meaningless. His daughter makes her own choices.

Where did you get that we warned Pakistanis before? From Rahul Gandhi's English comprehension? At the start is not the same as before the start.

Even assuming that the above is true, how is it the EAM's or FS's fault? They would do it independently of the PM, RM & the NSA?

Most of India's peacenik stances are courtesy of the MEA worrying about 'log kya kahenge'.

Post op analysis clearly shows that the IAF was restrained until a Haft missile flew and was intercepted over Sirsa, Haryana. After that some major asses were ripped apart and IAF got the free hand to do whatever it wanted.

 

[Okabe Rintarou]

Worth only if they give us the source code. Period. The reply to Pakistan getting J-35 (if) is not Su-57, it is more robust air defence. The arguments for Su-57(won't get them for 3-4 years if ordered today) has to be clearer than a knee-jerk move. Without heavy Indian modifications like in the Su-30MKI, if will likely be an expensive albatross around our neck.

The real reply to Paki getting J35 should be a massive increase in our offensive missile forces. Our objective should be to neutralize the J35 in the airbases before they can take off. Pakis can't easily remedy their lackluster AD. And missiles are our strength, so leverage our strength and enemy weakness, make taking down J35 on Paki airbases an operational objective at least, if not a strategic objective. Its not like they'll buy more than a squadron of J35, its not many targets even if they're hidden in HAS.

We have already set the stage that next time, we will hit Paki Armed Forces directly, no "terrorist targets only hit" drama like 2019 or this time. So we can easily take out J35 on ground itself.

Yet here we see members running helter skelter wondering which 5th gen FA we will buy to fight off Paki J35 smh..... we will need 5th gen FA against PLAAF, not PAF.

 

[vampyrbladez]

The real reply to Paki getting J35 should be a massive increase in our offensive missile forces. Our objective should be to neutralize the J35 in the airbases before they can take off. Pakis can't easily remedy their lackluster AD. And missiles are our strength, so leverage our strength and enemy weakness, make taking down J35 on Paki airbases an operational objective at least, if not a strategic objective.

We have already set the stage that next time, we will hit Paki Armed Forces directly, no "terrorist targets only hit" drama like 2019 or this time. So we can easily take out J35 on ground itself.

Yet here we see members running helter skelter wondering which 5th gen FA we will buy to fight of Pali J35 smh..... we will need 5th gen FA against PLAAF, not PAF.

Strong signs of Su 57 purchase are on the horizon. That is the only 5th gen (sort of) aircraft where we will have some level of control over weapons integration.

 

[maximus777]

Vodka inebriated Pro Vatnik Moskaal account lifting CCP balls

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This retard also needs to be promoted to a Field Marshall in Pak Aaand forces for the degree of bullshittery

 

[maximus777]

Strong signs of Su 57 purchase are on the horizon. That is the only 5th gen (sort of) aircraft where we will have some level of control over weapons integration.

Under the circumstances, probably the only choice. If J35 jungi thayaara comes to the neighborhood, we need something to fight it with. This way the import bahadurs, Chandigarh lobby, UNA AF - all are happy!

 

[average indian]

NIA has 95% conviction rate but what really happens is the court comes to save the terrorists in the name of human rights. One such example of courts being sympathetic to a repeated offender, that too an ISIS terrorist.


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He is Saquib Nachan.

First arrested in 1991 for a Gujarat terror case, sentenced to life, but the SC reduced it to 10 years. He walked free in 2001. Did he reform? Lol.

In 2003, arrested again for the triple Mumbai blasts, sentenced to 10 years but released early for good behaviour. Did he reform? Lol.

He went back in his village Padgha (Thane rural), declared it a ‘liberated zone’ called ‘Al-Sham’, administered ‘Bayath’, an oath to ISIS Khalifa, recruited youth from Padgha-Borivali, and plotted terror across India. In 2023, arrested again for planning a drone attack on Mumbai. Will he reform? Lol. You might say no. But trust the judiciary to give him another chance.

To know how much the judiciary loves him : In 2024, while in jail, he moved the SC against govt notifications declaring ISIS a terrorist organization. The Court, instead of dismissing his plea outright, heard it, allowing him to represent himself online.

Several of his relatives are terrorists, some fought for ISIS in Syria.
Any sane system would have neutralized him at the first crime itself, but our justice system enabled him to create an empire of terrorism, recruiting so many others.

@Ajayant Tripathi See how serious our courts are when it comes to NatSec. To them their own holier than thou ideals, how impractical & detrimental to the country could be, are above NatSec. NIA and Indian states try every thing in the book to put these guys behind bar that's why the conviction rate is almost 96%. But courts have this stupid humanity bs, where they can reduce the jail term or even grant them parole/bail (funnily enough many have ran away during these periods yet courts haven't learnt their lessons).

Did the cops who arrested him ever hear the word encounter? Sheesh, why so soft corner for repeat offenders when there are better methods which cost 200 rupees, you know what I mean

 

[chnvipgz]

The 0.5 front


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[haldilal]

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[Varoon4]

Man, is there ever a massive pile of mendacity at work in propping up the Pakistani military, both from within the country and globally. There are stakes involved including Anglo American geopolitical interests, weapons manufacturers, counterbalancing India by the West in general, and Chinese compulsions. Add to that global Islamist ideology, and you can see why lies and falsehoods are propagated on behalf of Pakistan. Which makes the Indian achievement that much more impressive- and important.