Pahalgam Islamic Terror Attack

JConline said:
Okay, based on the whole atmosphere in the Indian defence apparatus and the government, the all-party meeting, HM briefing the President, the urgency with regards to IWT, cancelling the ceasefire agreement, the IAF exercise, the IN Vikrant carrier group in the Arabian Sea, Modi's remarks, I am going to try and predict impending events. @Mods, feel free to delete if it is inappropriate. And to give an objective measure of how much trust I have in my predictions, if I were a betting man, I'd accept 1 to 3 odds on them at best.

1. India escalates cross-border shelling with Pakistan and carries out Balakot-style air strikes, possibly coupled with Uri-style ground ops, but both in much larger strike packages. Only hits terrorist installations, initially avoiding engagement with the Pakistani military as much as possible.
2. While the offensive-defense style kinetic action is happening, India starts to block and divert the water flow. It has been established that, as of now, we lack long-term diversion and storage capabilities, but again, it isn't meant to be long-term anyway, and India has sufficient diversion and storage capacity at our disposal at the moment to significantly starve Pakistan of water for a couple of weeks.
3. Simultaneously, the INS Vikrant carrier group is also stationed close to but not in a blockade of Karachi. This is meant to act as a deterrent to any Pakistani misadventure and also allow for an instant blockade of Pakistan's lifeline in case of a full-fledged war.
4. Non-state actors in troubled regions of Pakistan take the opportunity to further put pressure on the Pakistani defence apparatus. India also holds the Taliban option to push Pakistan into a 2 front war if need arises.

After this, it's anyone's bet. Knowing Pakistan, starved of water, and having probably enough money to sustain war for a couple of weeks at max, the best it can do are some sorry ass scirmishes if Asim Munir chooses to be sensible. If not, it'll be an annihilation of Pakistan because no country in the world, not even China, will fund Pakistan's war effort. And let's be honest, Pakistan lacks the balls to go nuclear.

Therefore, Pakistan will either be forced to quietly witness the annihilation of part of its proxy apparatus and be dried out slowly and systematically over time, if it chooses to continue funding and rebuilding what will be left of the proxies, or face complete annihilation in a war with India in today's geopolitical climate.
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No clue how much of what you've written comes true but I prefer we degrade their war fighting machinery as well. Take down as many of their FAs & other flying assets as possible & then go in for the PN too. The damage must be such it takes them 2 decades to recover or given the state of their economy not at all.
 
JConline said:
Okay, based on the whole atmosphere in the Indian defence apparatus and the government, the all-party meeting, HM briefing the President, the urgency with regards to IWT, cancelling the ceasefire agreement, the IAF exercise, the IN Vikrant carrier group in the Arabian Sea, Modi's remarks, I am going to try and predict impending events. @Mods, feel free to delete if it is inappropriate. And to give an objective measure of how much trust I have in my predictions, if I were a betting man, I'd accept 1 to 3 odds on them at best.

1. India escalates cross-border shelling with Pakistan and carries out Balakot-style air strikes, possibly coupled with Uri-style ground ops, but both in much larger strike packages. Only hits terrorist installations, initially avoiding engagement with the Pakistani military as much as possible.
2. While the offensive-defense style kinetic action is happening, India starts to block and divert the water flow. It has been established that, as of now, we lack long-term diversion and storage capabilities, but again, it isn't meant to be long-term anyway, and India has sufficient diversion and storage capacity at our disposal at the moment to significantly starve Pakistan of water for a couple of weeks.
3. Simultaneously, the INS Vikrant carrier group is also stationed close to but not in a blockade of Karachi. This is meant to act as a deterrent to any Pakistani misadventure and also allow for an instant blockade of Pakistan's lifeline in case of a full-fledged war.
4. Non-state actors in troubled regions of Pakistan take the opportunity to further put pressure on the Pakistani defence apparatus. India also holds the Taliban option to push Pakistan into a 2 front war if need arises.

After this, it's anyone's bet. Knowing Pakistan, starved of water, and having probably enough money to sustain war for a couple of weeks at max, the best it can do are some sorry ass scirmishes if Asim Munir chooses to be sensible. If not, it'll be an annihilation of Pakistan because no country in the world, not even China, will fund Pakistan's war effort. And let's be honest, Pakistan lacks the balls to go nuclear.

Therefore, Pakistan will either be forced to quietly witness the annihilation of part of its proxy apparatus and be dried out slowly and systematically over time, if it chooses to continue funding and rebuilding what will be left of the proxies, or face complete annihilation in a war with India in today's geopolitical climate.
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How would hitting the terror factories help? We did this in 2016 and 2019. Unless we turn Pindi and Sargodha into craters and their f16s into burning cinder, will they not recoil and bite us again? We are no USAF and will take serious losses probably, but that's a cost we as a country should be willing to pay.
 
maximus777 said:
Again with due respect and full protocol "maa chuda"
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UN is essentially telling us to show restraint and get killed. But I refuse to show restraint in front of a terrorist—because if I do, I’ll be the one who dies. I’d rather take down the terrorist before he takes me down. It’s better to die fighting a war than to be a passive victim of a terrorist attack.
 
Numero said:
Indian oppositions won't let him be. He's clown enough to cross the border & be resting there. Not like he was fielded there for the first time. He should've known the implications
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Indian opposition will do not such thing.. BSF jawan is a nobody..

Like with Abhinandan Pakistan wants to avoid a spanking by using him as pawn..
This might well have been a kidnap by Pakistan Army..
 
Numero said:
Indian oppositions won't let him be. He's clown enough to cross the border & be resting there. Not like he was fielded there for the first time. He should've known the implications
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Also he did it the next day of the terrorist attack. When low IQ dehati should've been on high alert.
 
JConline said:
Okay, based on the whole atmosphere in the Indian defence apparatus and the government, the all-party meeting, HM briefing the President, the urgency with regards to IWT, cancelling the ceasefire agreement, the IAF exercise, the IN Vikrant carrier group in the Arabian Sea, Modi's remarks, I am going to try and predict impending events. @Mods, feel free to delete if it is inappropriate. And to give an objective measure of how much trust I have in my predictions, if I were a betting man, I'd accept 1 to 3 odds on them at best.

1. India escalates cross-border shelling with Pakistan and carries out Balakot-style air strikes, possibly coupled with Uri-style ground ops, but both in much larger strike packages. Only hits terrorist installations, initially avoiding engagement with the Pakistani military as much as possible.
2. While the offensive-defense style kinetic action is happening, India starts to block and divert the water flow. It has been established that, as of now, we lack long-term diversion and storage capabilities, but again, it isn't meant to be long-term anyway, and India has sufficient diversion and storage capacity at our disposal at the moment to significantly starve Pakistan of water for a couple of weeks.
3. Simultaneously, the INS Vikrant carrier group is also stationed close to but not in a blockade of Karachi. This is meant to act as a deterrent to any Pakistani misadventure and also allow for an instant blockade of Pakistan's lifeline in case of a full-fledged war.
4. Non-state actors in troubled regions of Pakistan take the opportunity to further put pressure on the Pakistani defence apparatus. India also holds the Taliban option to push Pakistan into a 2 front war if need arises.

After this, it's anyone's bet. Knowing Pakistan, starved of water, and having probably enough money to sustain war for a couple of weeks at max, the best it can do are some sorry ass scirmishes if Asim Munir chooses to be sensible. If not, it'll be an annihilation of Pakistan because no country in the world, not even China, will fund Pakistan's war effort. And let's be honest, Pakistan lacks the balls to go nuclear.

Therefore, Pakistan will either be forced to quietly witness the annihilation of part of its proxy apparatus and be dried out slowly and systematically over time, if it chooses to continue funding and rebuilding what will be left of the proxies, or face complete annihilation in a war with India in today's geopolitical climate.
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Damn accurate I would say .... would be happy if this plays out but with disproportionate force & high casualties of pork civvies & army
 
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Srinivas said:
Pakistani Air Force and naval assets will be wiped out in first 10 days if war happens.
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Does Indian political class has will to do this? Wipe out will come later. Let's first fire 50 Brahmos from a stockpile of 2000+ on high value target.Since Galwan you have smoked atleast 20 Brahmos missile in name of testing.Still it's Kadi Ninda ++ for GoI.
 
To fight is not easy. War is not easy. But we must fight for what is right. These innocent people did not deserve to be shot for being Hindu. Is being Hindu a crime?

Not fighting against this is adharma and cowardliness of the worst condition.

Outcomes of the war is always uncertain or for that matter everything is uncertain. Bt we must do what is right.
 
iNorthernerOn9 said:
Another possibility...

No SF Raids, No precision bombing in Paki Mainland.

But...

Multiple Brigade sized ingress in Pok under Artillery & Air support... delivering sledgehammer blows to push back Mujahid force & Jaanbaaz force... holding land... altering LOC forever.
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I am talking about this only. Start salami slicing inside POJ and POK. Start on full level. But move inside 15 km or something. Displace the local population further into Pakistan. Gain the area and critical heights.


Ajatshatru said:
More than 100,000 people have been killed in terrorist attacks in India. So why should we think about casualties in war? I would rather die fighting a war with Pakistan than be a helpless victim of a terrorist attack. Any one of us could have been in Kashmir, killed by terrorists.
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Road accidents in one year in India shocks you a lot. But social media is retarded.
 
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