Pahalgam Islamic Terror Attack

I think Pakistan has edge over India in terms of long range rocket artillery. Indian army does not possess enough self propelled howitzers, so as a result outdated towed howitzers will face high attrition due to counter battery fire. Even amateur have better understanding of warfare than corrupt Indian army generals.
Has been since Kargil days. Nearly 3 decades and it has not been addressed. Pussyfooting at best!! God forbid, if LAC heats up, I cant imagine the beating we 'll take. Previous govts have been imbeciles but our maha purush "sashakt bharat" wala seems to have done woeful ittle about it in 12 years!! Dont even get me started on MRFA. If not for Parrikar we wouldn't have those precious 36 Rafales either.
 
The end goal is exactly political theatrics, and winning the elections. Let's be honest for a second. What is the government's role? To weaken our enemies and increase the stakes in our favour? The main goal of the government is to win next elections.

Modi won't take a political L. He would have to respond somehow, otherwise the opposition would use that against him. Now, we just have to see whether Modi responds just for theatrics or actually weakening the enemy.
Man, can give this political thing some break? This is not a pork forum. Get out of this mentality. Modi don't do things to satisfy the opposition. Get over it.
Im very much disturbed by the comment like this from Indians at this moment. @haldilal plz do something.
 
Members should dive deep to analyse and also look at Pakistan’s recent acquisition of defence products, and compare it with our acquisitions, which are installed by geniuses. After committing resources to the China front, we are at complete parity with the Pakistan Army and Air Force, except for the Navy.
Members should check Pakistan’s army defence equipment and ours through open sources — you are not going to like what you see. Also, look at Google Maps: most Pakistan military bases (army or air force) are in close proximity to Indian borders, so the argument that Pakistan will be drained economically does not hold much weight. They can mobilise very easily.
Harvest time is also over, so there is no loss to agriculture. Also, look at Pakistan’s imports from abroad — they can easily be sustained through the Karakoram Highway. Moreover, Pakistan consumes 35% smuggled diesel petrol from Iran, so there is no urgent need for large fuel imports for their army.
The supply of ammunition can be sustained through the Karakoram Pass, which, by the way, has nearly 1.5 billion dollars in trade.
It’s a fucking trap laid by the Chinese and Pakistanis. Both have a long-term game plan: the Chinese do not want the global supply chain to shift, nor do they want peer neighbours as competitors. Pakistan stands to gain significantly — if they manage to land a serious blow on us, it will have a domino effect on the Muslim psyche in South Asia, tilting it towards Pakistan, among many other consequences.
Analyse deeply, members — it’s not a fucking video game. It’s a matter of prestige, life, economic damage, our aims toward China, and much more.
Pakistan doesn’t have the balls to mobilise troops without someone’s backing.
 
Has been since Kargil days. Nearly 3 decades and it has not been addressed. Pussyfooting at best!! God forbid, if LAC heats up, I cant imagine the beating we 'll take. Previous govts have been imbeciles but our maha purush "sashakt bharat" wala seems to have done woeful ittle about it in 12 years!! Dont even get me started on MRFA. If not for Parrikar we wouldn't have those precious 36 Rafales either.
We are facing existential threat from 2.5 front war but unfortunately our leadership is only busy in Dalit,Shosit, Pichda, Alpsankhyak, Nari Shakti, Ladli behen Yojana, free ration type of politics. Nobody cares about national security.
 
No other solid reason? Let's say we can completely wipe their military assets out after 100 days when we attack. Would we take that option or do we take the option of launching the attack earlier just because narrative will be lost and people would have moved on? The end goal is to wipe out or weaken our enemy massively. The goal here is not political theater.
After 100 days won't do..
GOI will have lost both internal and international solidarity which is at its peak right now..
A huge Indian conventional strike in August would feel unwarranted..
 
Members should dive deep to analyse and also look at Pakistan’s recent acquisition of defence products, and compare it with our acquisitions, which are installed by geniuses. After committing resources to the China front, we are at complete parity with the Pakistan Army and Air Force, except for the Navy.
Members should check Pakistan’s army defence equipment and ours through open sources — you are not going to like what you see. Also, look at Google Maps: most Pakistan military bases (army or air force) are in close proximity to Indian borders, so the argument that Pakistan will be drained economically does not hold much weight. They can mobilise very easily.
Harvest time is also over, so there is no loss to agriculture. Also, look at Pakistan’s imports from abroad — they can easily be sustained through the Karakoram Highway. Moreover, Pakistan consumes 35% smuggled diesel petrol from Iran, so there is no urgent need for large fuel imports for their army.
The supply of ammunition can be sustained through the Karakoram Pass, which, by the way, has nearly 1.5 billion dollars in trade.
It’s a fucking trap laid by the Chinese and Pakistanis. Both have a long-term game plan: the Chinese do not want the global supply chain to shift, nor do they want peer neighbours as competitors. Pakistan stands to gain significantly — if they manage to land a serious blow on us, it will have a domino effect on the Muslim psyche in South Asia, tilting it towards Pakistan, among many other consequences.
Analyse deeply, members — it’s not a fucking video game. It’s a matter of prestige, life, economic damage, our aims toward China, and much more.
Pakistan doesn’t have the balls to mobilise troops without someone’s backing.
Any supplies through the karakoram pass will be bombed.. India will damage the Karakoram highway irretrivably.. and constantly.. Karakoram highway is near to the loc..
 
Again If you ask me per my experience, using blitzkrieg strategy to take on POK forward locations like Neelum valley,while pushing for naval blockage with stern warning to world bodies not to enter the pakistan waters.
 
Fake news stop posting unverified news this is already fact checked
Maybe Not...
It could be that he is announcing publicly which may have conveyed by BSF to locals unofficially to clear the fields for operations and/or to have clear view of paki forces so they don't have place for hiding. Fields across the punjab borders are being cleared Prematurely by farmers either on BSF instructions or to save their harvest..
Though public announcement should have been avoided which is debatable...
 
Also never make mistake to open the front in Punjab,with open field bogged by paddy field we might fill the pinch of losing precious armoury..
 
Has been since Kargil days. Nearly 3 decades and it has not been addressed. Pussyfooting at best!! God forbid, if LAC heats up, I cant imagine the beating we 'll take. Previous govts have been imbeciles but our maha purush "sashakt bharat" wala seems to have done woeful ittle about it in 12 years!! Dont even get me started on MRFA. If not for Parrikar we wouldn't have those precious 36 Rafales either.
What are the things where we have absolute superiority
 

View: https://x.com/Aryan_warlord/status/1916373057045746117

Al-Zarrar tanks reportedly only 18-20 kms from Indo-Pak border (unverified).

Well,it was expected.
For one these videos are released to improve the morale amongst the Pakistani public.
Look,we the military are doing something.

I think the Indian military is almost 100% aware of the main military assets of Pakistan. No nasty surprises here.

I guess India's space assets especially the satellites would give us enough intelligence on the movement and positions of Pakistan's military assets.

Not to forget our very good(I am not exaggerating) human intelligence assets in Pakistan.
Yes,the Pahalgam attack was an intelligence failure. But the matter should be looked at in a holistic way.
You have an enemy who is making repeated attempts to carry out terrorist attacks in Kashmir. We probably prevented 9 out of 10 attacks but one attack succeeded.

Nothing very shameful. The same odds hold for the Pakistanis also. They also cannot prevent all the attacks planned against them by their adversaries. Their famed and lethal ISI(as many would consider them) has failed umpteen times.

Even a super power like the US cannot prevent a full 100% of potential attacks.

But adversaries know that carrying out a terrorist attack on the US would result in unbearable retaliation. The likely consequences the enemy will suffer acts like a deterrent.

I am not eulogising the US. We all know the mischief done by US intelligence agencies in different parts of the world.

I think most people would agree that India needs to establish air superiority over Pakistan as early as possible. Their main radar installations should be destroyed at the start of hostilities. I guess we now have indigenous anti radiation missiles of sufficient range. The Rudram missiles and perhaps SAAW could be utilised.

Once their ground based early warning radars are knocked out, they will be forced to rely on their airborne AWACS. I reckon our S400 system could be used to target their AWACS.

Anyway this is all theorizing. What actually happens should be seen. Perhaps the escalation will be capped at a lower level.
 
All the mobilization Porkis are making is going to cost them a lot. I say we take our own sweet time to decide when we have to bomb the shit out of them. Few people here might disagree with me, but I say even if the attack happens after 100 days I am okay with it. We need to rise the cost of conflict for them. For 100 days they cannot be on high alert and have their air force and navy on combat patrol. That will bleed them like anything. Even the Chinese couldn't hold on in Himalayas even if that was due to just weather. Still a country barely hanging onto a thread cannot keep up high alert levels for 100 days.

If the attack happens let's say at the end of August, we will also have a advantage with respect to our Eastern border. Winter will start to set in and Chinese would not dare to do anything stupid either given the harsh weather conditions. 1971 war was fought in December which is peak winter in Himalayas. Until then I am okay with our forces fine tuning their strategy and getting their shit in order. It will give our side enough to watch their moments and strike when they least expect it.

This is just my opinion. I would love to see anyone can see the flaw in my argument and rebut it.
I feel the goal should be to break them into 4 like Doval threatened ,whatever time it may take but in this year only.
 
Man, can give this political thing some break? This is not a pork forum. Get out of this mentality. Modi don't do things to satisfy the opposition. Get over it.
Im very much disturbed by the comment like this from Indians at this moment. @haldilal plz do something.
What mentality? War and politics go hand in hand. Sure, "Modiji" might not have to satisfy the opposition. But, he has to satisfy the "Voters" and the common Indian people who are agitated, after the attack. If he doesn't do it, the opposition would make a matter out of this, and so a response is guaranteed. Now the intensity of the response depends on how far he is willing to push.

I don't know what part of my response disturbed you, but if you don't want my political opinions and inputs. I won't mention them. Don't be disturbed.
 
I hope we use this as an opportunity to scrap "no 1st use".
And if they make noises that we don't like, denuclearise the bastards.
Preemptively do a counter-force attack on their missile silos, production facilities and command & control nodes.

Make missile defence easier for our BMD network.

Of course pakjabis will probably have ballistic missile TELs and the 2 or something remaining subs that aren't perpetually being repaired.

Our satellite coverage might be enough for early detection.
One of the reasons why I keep pining for ISRO to increase the rate of satellite-launches and a desi SBIRS like network for early detection of paki and chini missile launches.
Absolutely. We should get early warning, and frankly a strategic bomber fleet is also overdue.
 

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