AMCA - Advanced Medium Combat Aircraft

Anants said:
The model may not have it but EOTS is getting developed - as confirmed by SriRam/SouravJha in his latest podcast
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https://alphadefense.in/index.php/2024/10/03/amcas-electro-optical-targeting-system-eots/
 
Actually we need our own company like GE which can develop and manufacture aeroengines. I think govt shld support one such startups and help them to mature to giant company.
 
ArjunMK1A said:
That Scale model still gives the HAL Chair vibes.
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DKS the drunkard shoving himself in between Rajnath Singh & the other gentleman to get his ugly mug photographed. That's the biggest high light of the evening .
 
Bhartiya Sainik said:
It is fixed, so it is DAS, not EOTS.
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So amca will DAS on its body for 360° coverage, also IRST( will also fulfill FLIR role for IR terrain mapping), but laser designator is still left out,
Does it has integrated laser designator? Or will have to carry external pods for that?
 
randombully said:
So amca will DAS on its body for 360° coverage, also IRST( will also fulfill FLIR role for IR terrain mapping), but laser designator is still left out,
Does it has integrated laser designator? Or will have to carry external pods for that?
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I'm not DoD, IDK what our DoD will do & in what timeline.
But every 5gen jet needs high resolution EO-DAS which perform role of MAWS, ground object ID & track.
EOTS has gimbal for LD (Laser Designator), that's how it targets.
F-35's EOTS also performs IRTS, its aperture sweeps in azimuth just like Russian IRSTs, clearly seen in videos.
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Bhartiya Sainik said:
I'm not DoD, IDK what our DoD will do & in what timeline.
But every 5gen jet needs high resolution EO-DAS which perform role of MAWS, ground object ID & track.
EOTS has gimbal for LD (Laser Designator), that's how it targets.
F-35's EOTS also performs IRTS, its aperture sweeps in azimuth just like Russian IRSTs, clearly seen in videos.
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But we're not going f35 route.
We going mix russian-35 route.
Where we have irst on amca like su57, the irst should also do the role of flir.

As for the crystal eots like dome of amca, it seems more like a DAS, and we do seem to be going for 360° coverage with Das also on spine if amca.

So with that Said laser designator seems left out, which shouldn't be because it's not hard to integrate it.
 
randombully said:
But we're not going f35 route.
We going mix russian-35 route.
Where we have irst on amca like su57, the irst should also do the role of flir.

As for the crystal eots like dome of amca, it seems more like a DAS, and we do seem to be going for 360° coverage with Das also on spine if amca.

So with that Said laser designator seems left out, which shouldn't be because it's not hard to integrate it.
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I never tell to follow countries - USA, Russia, EU, etc. Follow technology no matter who does it 1st.
A future jet, manned or unmanned, need true RF+EO spherical coverage with zero blind spots. And multi-role capability has become a usual thing.

Some ground radars are rotating to give 360 degree coverage, some are fixed with 3-4 antennas.
Same thing with EO-DAS/IRST principle.
FLIR, DLIR, LDP were dedicated H/w components. Now they have become functions fused into same H/w.
DAS sensors are fixed, can perform FLIR/DLIR/ULIR/RLIR/LLIR/BLIR + IRST + MAWS.
EOTS components are on gimbal, can perform FLIR/DLIR/RLIR/LLIR/BLIR + LDP + IRST.
Su-35/57 & MiG-35 IRSTs have big blind spots in lower hemisphere at higher altitudes due to nose if their forward-lower DAS don't perform IRST role also. Otherwise ok.
Similarly F-35's EOTS cannot sweep upper hemisphere at lower altitudes due to nose, so its fixed forward-upper DAS must do it.

Not deviating but, Kaan will have EOTS + stealthy upper IRST + DAS + LWR + stealthy DIRCM.
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J-20 might upgrade with DIRCM.
A complete J-35 with all these components can roll out any time.
K-21 future models might catch up.
So AMCA cannot afford to lag behind.
 
Everyone is asking where is EOTS on the AMCA

But no-one is asking what is the need for loitering over an enemy airspace to keep shining a laser so that your munitions can land accurately in 2030. You've far superior IIR, GNSS and mmW guided stand-off and fire-n-forget munitions. And even in SAL munitions, most of time they're guided by forward observer and not the launch platform itself.
 
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