AMCA - Advanced Medium Combat Aircraft

[Savageking456]

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[FalconSlayers]

Source

View: https://x.com/sneheshphilip/status/1927272985640988947

 

[truthsoldier]

View: https://x.com/hindookissinger/status/1927285880768565425?t=dK9O0tixVxWoj6a8NEL06g&s=19

 

[Savageking456]

View: https://x.com/hindookissinger/status/1927285880768565425?t=dK9O0tixVxWoj6a8NEL06g&s=19

Highly dissappointed but not shocked
As said clear miscommunication between ADA and industry

 

[fire starter]

Amca is the most delayed program



View: https://x.com/sriramthg/status/1927289584129347630?t=RTSZ0AhETK813LcRjHXU7g&s=19


View: https://x.com/cvkrishnan/status/1927286911543959553?t=C8i37i-iu82qlPzxeZHxcA&s=19

 

[Okabe Rintarou]

View: https://x.com/sneheshphilip/status/1927272985640988947

I don't get it. They say "development phase" and "prototype". Are they talking about AMCA PV-1 rolling out in 2031? Because that is then in line with the AMCA TD 1 and TD 2 rolling out earlier, maybe 2028-29.

They are using the word "prototype", not Tech Demonstrator.

 

[Savageking456]

I don't get it. They say "development phase" and "prototype". Are they talking about AMCA PV-1 rolling out in 2031? Because that is then in line with the AMCA TD 1 and TD 2 rolling out earlier, maybe 2028-29.

They are using the word "prototype", not Tech Demonstrator.

Amca will not have TD like we did in the case of tejas
So its prototype only

 

[truthsoldier]

View: https://x.com/cvkrishnan/status/1927296966808965352?t=csKBxI_R7xEN51g_SScahg&s=19

 

[Okabe Rintarou]

Amca will not have TD like we did in the case of tejas
So its prototype only

Didn't the previous EOI mention 2 NGTD will be made? This was before covid, i think.

 

[Yt2211]

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If this is true then why is defence decode saying roll out by 2026 and first flight by 2027

 

[jaijaganath]

Highly dissappointed but not shocked
As said clear miscommunication between ADA and industry

How is it possible
T0+36 months from ccs clearance

 

[sameer]

View: https://x.com/hindookissinger/status/1927285880768565425?t=dK9O0tixVxWoj6a8NEL06g&s=19

Deep down we all knew this anyway. There's no way AMCA first flight would come within 3-4 years of ccs approval, given the delays that we've seen with the mk2 program.

Either way, this confirms what many members have been predicting which is that we might not see mass induction by 2040. An absolute shame given the situation that we're in.

The only silver lining is that HAL won't have the monopoly and has to compete. Not sure how this is going to work given that private companies have had apprehensions about this program previously, but we'll have to see.

Such a bummer man.

 

[jaijaganath]

View: https://x.com/cvkrishnan/status/1927296966808965352?t=csKBxI_R7xEN51g_SScahg&s=19

Wtf is actually happening
-super sukhoi won't happen in next 6-7 years and moreover how much life will be remaining in su-30mki is another question after 6-7 years
-amca which has been sanctioned in 2024 should roll out within 3 years but don't know from where 2031 dropped
-mk2 testing still remaining we don't know how much time will testing continue

 

[jaijaganath]

Right now there is no purpose for amca mk1 and mk2
U have got 7 years since clearance directly go for mk2
Bcoz in 2040 mk1 will be obselete enough to be inducted

Go for 114 rafales coz we have no choice otherwise will be having an airforce with no modern aircraft
By then chinese would have mass produced 6th gen aircrafts and we will be flying 4th gen

For fuck sake things should get better as we are a growing economy but no it's getting worse
We are currently 1 gen behind chinese in future we will be 2 gen behind
Post pahalgam we thought things would get fast tracked but these guys are racing towards bottom from 2027 to 2031
Wow
We can only look at 2022 amca bulkhead metal cutting video and satisfy ourselves

 

[Brood Father]

Rollout in 27 and Production in 35 was the original timelines ..now rollout is 31 and Production is 35 ..I don't see any difference in the production timelines .. Its just government has wised up and gave the actual timelines rather than fictional ..

 

[FalconSlayers]

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[redpanda]

Guys calm down don't go into blackpilled meltdown think wisely ask yourself where did this 2031 statement came from? Is it officially in the PIB statement? Or is it just media houses misinterpreting some statement by some random babu? For example the Hindu's article says the timeline for prototype is 2028-29 while ThePrint says 2031.

Defence Minister Rajnath Singh approves AMCA execution model through industry partnership

Defence Minister approves execution model for indigenous fifth gen fighter jet AMCA, crucial for maintaining technological edge against China.

www.thehindu.com

"The first prototype of AMCA is expected to roll out by 2028-29 and production is expected to begin from 2032-33 with induction targeted in 2034, as per officials"

If both statements are given by officials to the media, which is one is true? Why would officials contradict each other?

 

[jaijaganath]

Guys calm down where did this 2031 statement came from? Is it officially in the PIB statement? Or is it just media houses misinterpreting some statement by some random babu? For example the Hindu's article says the timeline for prototype is 2028-29 while ThePrint says 2031.

Defence Minister Rajnath Singh approves AMCA execution model through industry partnership

Defence Minister approves execution model for indigenous fifth gen fighter jet AMCA, crucial for maintaining technological edge against China.

www.thehindu.com

"The first prototype of AMCA is expected to roll out by 2028-29 and production is expected to begin from 2032-33 with induction targeted in 2034, as per officials"

Point is as far as I have read the print report
It seems the cdr wasn't completed despite ccs clearance
Now within few months cdr is expected to be completed and meanwhile ada has to select pvt partner or consortium
And it makes sense

 

[truthsoldier]

Thread worth reading

View: https://x.com/TNGeography/status/1927004532862591386?t=KQc-MjQvDnSyVCaIJO6MgQ&s=19

 

[Bhartiya Sainik]

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Metal cutting started in 2022, 1st prototype in 2031,
9 years for AMCA prototype in 2020s
Vs
YF-22 in 3 years from 1987-90.
& it was re-designed in 3 months with 1980s primitive CAD tools.
Definitely we've many world records.
- fastest 5gen design
- fastest 5gen re-design
- fastest 5gen prototype manufacture
- slowest 5gen design/re-design
- slowest 5gen prototype manufacture
- last/latest 5gen fighter jet