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[srev2004]

 

[srev2004]

View: https://youtube.com/shorts/CSj9NU7COeA?feature=shared

 

[Azaad]

Again, i insist my opinions:

1. Quality? paved or not paved?

2. Country road? Normal way or express way or high way?

3. You shouldn't use the same size of map, actually when you use a India map, you need use a China Map 3 TIMES larger, since we have 9.6million you have around 2.9million KM2. Then you see how long the road it should be comparing India.
4. Way of calcuation, we count by general lengh, you count "lane lenght"

5. I personally doubt about it based on economic reason:


View: https://x.com/thinking_panda/status/1798283216249630741?t=3umaOt3nnzrZP7k4c5xT9A&s=19


View: https://x.com/BeijingDai/status/1674701549334073344?t=5lPkk9Off6ujZBHH4kXwgg&s=19

Frankly I don't think the Chinese are very intelligent as you like to portray in here or your compatriots out there .

You seem to think that lane construction of a highway or expressway in kilometres is also measured the same way to convey distance. Let me illustrate this example .

For instance the Delhi Mumbai Expressway is ~ 1000 kms with 4 lanes ( I'm unaware if it does have 4 lanes or more but for argument's sake let's consider 4 lanes ) .

When this expressway is being constructed , let's say the contractor achieves 4 kms of construction per day. What that means is 4 lanes of 1 km each was constructed on that day .

However when the entire expressway is constructed & inaugurated for traffic to pass the distance of the total expressway is the distance between the farthest ends of the Expressway & not the aggregate of all the 4 lanes which in simple English means it is 1000 kms x 1 lane & not 1000 kms x 4 lanes. It's the same for the US or anywhere in the world .

I've no clue what it is like for China but whatever data the CCP comes up with ought to be taken with a FISTFUL of salt & not just a pinch . Why ? This is the reason .

The truth about the 50 Lane Highway in China

The truth about the 50 Lane Highway in China Yes, there exists a 50 lane highway in China and it merges to 4 lanes!!! It is a 50-lane

www.theengineeringcommunity.org

That second SS you pinned is by a certified racist Han MF who's also an idiot of the first order. If China's sold 27 million automobiles in a year & India's sold 2.7 million automobiles according to him , he seems to think India can't exceed China in expressway construction because of the numbers of vehicles sold.

In his limited understanding India's only 2.7 million vehicles & China's only 27 million vehicles. What's more the MSS employs idiots like this to disseminate propaganda ! This is the reason I sincerely doubt China's going to be successfully taking Taiwan.

 

[srev2004]

India has

200k km national highways

175k km state highways

 

[Nutcracker]

When you use Chinese resource, you should keep it right. the map you showed are map of "national express way" network. Let me pasted it again.

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They are at this level.

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The Chinese real highway network is here, 184,000KM

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They looks like this:

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Actually, i don't quite make comparision here in the forum between India and China, i don't know why you are so obssessed on it. I think 6 times GDP says a lot, you don't need to show those vids of India progress here in this thread, it's wasting resource of forum and off topic.

CCP bots should update their scripts.
6 times GDP? It's not even 5 times. You can verify on IMF website.
And you Chinese boast about being ahead of US in terms of PPP, then the gap between China and India reduces further more to less than 2.3 times, which has been reducing at rapid rate in last 10 years.

 

[srev2004]

 

[rockdog]

CCP bots should update their scripts.
6 times GDP? It's not even 5 times. You can verify on IMF website.
And you Chinese boast about being ahead of US in terms of PPP, then the gap between China and India reduces further more to less than 2.3 times, which has been reducing at rapid rate in last 10 years.

View: https://x.com/TimesAlgebraIND/status/1819238498840330411?t=T4Cn63yK0bQRgQ14D0wciQ&s=19




I agree with him about gap between China & India.

View: https://youtu.be/B39hB75nZlo?si=mTahglxucyeNaQ7g

@srev2004 i also advice you spent 60sec for this clip, like him say i really don't have interest to argue those road length.

 

[srev2004]

View: https://x.com/TimesAlgebraIND/status/1819238498840330411?t=T4Cn63yK0bQRgQ14D0wciQ&s=19


View: https://youtu.be/B39hB75nZlo?si=mTahglxucyeNaQ7g

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Before we do a straw man and move goal posts, can you concede that India’s road network is larger than China. I want to validate an assumption I have about your cognitive dissonance.

We can talk about manufacturing after we close this topic.

 

[rockdog]

Before we do a straw man and move goal posts, can you concede that India’s road network is larger than China. I want to validate an assumption I have about your cognitive dissonance.

We can talk about manufacturing after we close this topic.

@srev2004 i also advice you spent 60sec for this clip, like him say i really don't have interest to argue those road length.

 

[srev2004]

@srev2004 i also advice you spent 60sec for this clip, like him say i really don't have interest to argue those road length.

You just validated my assumption that you cannot concede on a talking point. It’s not really a debate but propaganda. If that’s the framework of discussion, then whoever posts the most will win. If you want meaningful debate then you need to answer questions with criticality and focus.

We can have a back and forth on a specific topic; but if you move goal posts whenever it’s convenient for you; then you aren’t debating but just broadcasting. It will fall on deaf years and you will lose more credibility

 

[srev2004]

That being said; I’m happy to move onto manufacturing now. Can we close the chapter on people Hanging out of trains and poor road infrastructure as one of your talking points and focus on manufacturing now?

 

[Nutcracker]

View: https://x.com/TimesAlgebraIND/status/1819238498840330411?t=T4Cn63yK0bQRgQ14D0wciQ&s=19




I agree with him about gap between China & India.

View: https://youtu.be/B39hB75nZlo?si=mTahglxucyeNaQ7g

@srev2004 i also advice you spent 60sec for this clip, like him say i really don't have interest to argue those road length.



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Wumaos like to suck the pipe of whoever peddles wrong info favouring them.

https://www.imf.org/external/datamapper/profile/CHN

https://www.imf.org/external/datamapper/profile/IND

 

[rockdog]

Wumaos like to suck the pipe of whoever peddles wrong info favouring them.

https://www.imf.org/external/datamapper/profile/CHN

https://www.imf.org/external/datamapper/profile/IND

View: https://youtu.be/B39hB75nZlo?si=3KVrAIwQuH8fh-FX

 

[srev2004]

let me reiterate your argument back to you so you understand that I can analyze your world view.

Your world view says that India is six times smaller than China in manufacturing therefore it cannot compete with China and it shouldn’t compare itself to China and it should give up.

Is this the worldview you wish to propagate?

If it is something else, please write it down. Once you articulate it clearly I’ll give you my counter points.

 

[srev2004]

Can you confirm your worldview or articulate a more accurate statement. Once you do that we can deconstruct your assumptions and debate each component and use logical thinking and rationale to test if the worldview is correct

 

[srev2004]

You aren’t responding so let’s assume my understanding of your worldview is correct.

 

[rockdog]

let me reiterate your argument back to you so you understand that I can analyze your world view.

Your world view says that India is six times smaller than China in manufacturing therefore it cannot compete with China and it shouldn’t compare itself to China and it should give up.

Is this the worldview you wish to propagate?

If it is something else, please write it down. Once you articulate it clearly I’ll give you my counter points.

Again u made wrong claim, 6 times GDP gap between China and India.

10 times gap on manufacture GDP, between China and India.




View: https://x.com/gemsofbabus_/status/1813955405917413684?t=36WHWiSODXL4XCEZY7-Rgw&s=19


Too late, good nite dude.

 

[srev2004]

So let’s focus on the ten times larger argument.

In 1980, US manufacturing was ten times larger than China. US population decline started and Chinese population had the largest workforce.

Should China have given up in this case or should it have focused more on manufacturing. Additionally US GDP growth in nominal value was faster than China’s GDP growth in nominal value.

Also, what happened to US manufacturing when their manufacturing supply chain changed?

US lost 2 million manufacturing jobs and China’s GDP growth accelerated. It took roughly 30 years before China caught the US and doubled the US manufacturing output.

This argument is a fallacy, it doesn’t survive the logical test of why India can’t beat China. China is proof that it can be done.

 

[srev2004]

So would you care to reframe your stance?

 

[srev2004]

Your new stance may be India is different than China because it’s a democracy and unstable… is that your new frame of argument?