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If I can't compete for 100% seats because of some muh oppression historically, I want this country to fail and disintegrate. All people who get seats or jobs due to reservation are inferior IMO. No two ways about it. People are free to do mental gymnastics about why they deserve reservation but at the end of the day, they are admitting they are inferior and need special protection.

Anyway, I'm leaving this Bhimta shithole permanently next year. I can see this country's future and it's not going to be a good one.
lol...so u want to our country fail nd disintegrate, coz u find difficulty in government jobs😂. ok i respect ur honesty, coz now i can guess ur mentality.
u r open to think who u consider some one superior nd inferior in different cases. i mean i show many people, who called themself superior coz their "supposed ancestors" was great...there r many people who consider indian education system shitty...there r many people who consider our education system on memory based nd waste...there r many people who consider grade system flawed....etc etc.
"bhimta shithole"😂...i guess u r calling bhimta to SC/ST, but they only makes near 20% population. even out of them lesser people consider themself bhimta. i dont understand why u gave constitution credit to ambedkar. didnt constitution assembly had 389 members? 😂
best of luck to u nd make ur life better nd enjoyable. hope u will find government jobs in that new country 😝. i will remember ur prophecy. happy new year in advance.
 
lol...so u want to our country fail nd disintegrate, coz u find difficulty in government jobs😂. ok i respect ur honesty, coz now i can guess ur mentality.
u r open to think who u consider some one superior nd inferior in different cases. i mean i show many people, who called themself superior coz their "supposed ancestors" was great...there r many people who consider indian education system shitty...there r many people who consider our education system on memory based nd waste...there r many people who consider grade system flawed....etc etc.
"bhimta shithole"😂...i guess u r calling bhimta to SC/ST, but they only makes near 20% population. even out of them lesser people consider themself bhimta. i dont understand why u gave constitution credit to ambedkar. didnt constitution assembly had 389 members? 😂
best of luck to u nd make ur life better nd enjoyable. hope u will find government jobs in that new country 😝. i will remember ur prophecy. happy new year in advance.
Yes.

Not Government jobs but I'm more interested in Universities etc. Why should a poor UC have to compete for only 40% of University seats?

Any country that practices reservation should fail and it will.

Remember my prophecy, India is a weakling which even a country with 5 Lakh population like Maldives isn't afraid of. Before you say, Maldives has calmed down, yeah they've calmed down because they realised sweet talking will get them continous $$$$$ from Vishawacoolie India.
 
okkk...what is ur view in creamy layer standard. although its said creamy layers make to differentiate poor nd capable family. what about including people below 800000 yearly or 66000 monthly earning family in creamy layer. do u think any poor family in india earning near 800000 yearly or 66000 monthly??? it basically include poor nd lower middle class in OBC nd EWS. now tell me how r u justifying giving OBC nd genral middle class family reservation (27+10= 37%) on basis of facilating poor genral/OBC?
The system the OBCs have is not perfect either. But way way more fair than the kind of 'one size fits all' policy they have on the SCs and STs because of the existence of a creamy layer (it effectively bars the elites from taking advantage of their reservation policies).

OBCs are just the avg Indian. In an ideal world they would not have any 'reservation'. Mandal happened because the non BJP non INC parties got scared of BJP's Hindutva brand of politics (this is an era when Ram Janmabhoomi Andolan was at its peak and Babri was demolished) and were actively looking to divide Hindus along caste/community faultlines to prevent a nationwide Hindu consolidation.

yes this creamy layer also include house size nd land size also. but people r only showing their village property nd not showing their other property in cities nd town.
In my view only poor nd middle class filled forms for government jobs. rich people dont need these type of less paying jobs.

It is not the government's job to determine who gets to engage in what kind of jobs because they claim to be an 'equal opportunity' employer.

so if a selection process giving equal opportunity or fair selection to a community, whether they r poor or middle class....its not a bad choice.

The selection process is indeed rigged against the poor. Did you even read my previous posts? A tiny minority of SCs of STs are gobbling up all the high paying govt jobs on offer - leaving the remaining 95% scrambling for some group D jobs at best.

reservation didnt made for removing poverty, specially for SC/ST. just like in women reservation case. its all about their community representation.

It is NOT about 'community representation' at all. We do not have any concept of 'community representation' in our system. This is a justification you are cooking up - not the government.

coz OBC nd EWS created on economy condition, thats why creamy layer is necessary in OBC nd EWS.

You should really read up the recent Supreme Court judgement where the milaards agreed that the SCs and the STs can indeed be subcategorized based on 'economic conditions' etc. The BJP ruled Haryana govt is already working on it.

Again, for the record, I oppose it personally becaude subcategorizing the SC/STs on the lines of the OBCs will only bring even more unqualified people into prominence - it is better to proceed with the status quo.

Reservations are indeed rigged against the poorest and is an inherently elitist policy that is touted as a cure to hide the systematic incompetence of successive governments and divide the Hindu electorate. I do not care if you are an ST or taking advantage of a system that is designed to favor the top 5% but do not try to defend the indefensible.
 
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When the next partition happens, UC Hindus must get their own country. UC's should work towards unity with fellow UC's. Don't be divided and don't fall for the muh Hindu unity BS. Right now, Hindu unity means all the perks for LC's and all responsibiities for UC's.

No need to share the new country with literal LEECHES.
 
When the next partition happens, UC Hindus must get their own country. UC's should work towards unity with fellow UC's. Don't be divided and don't fall for the muh Hindu unity BS. Right now, Hindu unity means all the perks for LC's and all responsibiities for UC's.

No need to share the new country with literal LEECHES.
Bruh, calm down. There will be no partition. Caste kanging is not even electorally effective anymore, chill.
 
These are the kind of illiterate jokers who become Judges in this shithole nation. Guy can't even speak 2 sentences properly but became a Judge because of his caste.

This guy is the one who destroyed the Hindu Temple in the Government residence area.

If Hindu gods are real, they will annihilate this Bhimta shithole.


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What would happen to a non-Muslim judge who orders destruction of a Mosque in a Muslim country?

In India, napumsak Hindus can't touch the Bhimta judge who ordered the destruction of a Temple.
 
What would happen to a non-Muslim judge who orders destruction of a Mosque in a Muslim country?

In India, napumsak Hindus can't touch the Bhimta judge who ordered the destruction of a Temple.

MP PWD dismissed these claims, BTW.

“There was no temple in the Chief Justice's official bungalow when it was occupied, so how could it have been removed? The complaint is absolutely false, frivolous, and motivated. The Public Works Department (PWD) can confirm this.”
 
The system the OBCs have is not perfect either. But way way more fair than the kind of 'one size fits all' policy they have on the SCs and STs because of the existence of a creamy layer (it effectively bars the elites from taking advantage of their reservation policies).

OBCs are just the avg Indian. In an ideal world they would not have any 'reservation'. Mandal happened because the non BJP non INC parties got scared of BJP's Hindutva brand of politics (this is an era when Ram Janmabhoomi Andolan was at its peak and Babri was demolished) and were actively looking to divide Hindus along caste/community faultlines to prevent a nationwide Hindu consolidation.



It is not the government's job to determine who gets to engage in what kind of jobs because they claim to be an 'equal opportunity' employer.



The selection process is indeed rigged against the poor. Did you even read my previous posts? A tiny minority of SCs of STs are gobbling up all the high paying govt jobs on offer - leaving the remaining 95% scrambling for some group D jobs at best.



It is NOT about 'community representation' at all. We do not have any concept of 'community representation' in our system. This is a justification you are cooking up - not the government.



You should really read up the recent Supreme Court judgement where the milaards agreed that the SCs and the STs can indeed be subcategorized based on 'economic conditions' etc. The BJP ruled Haryana govt is already working on it.

Again, for the record, I oppose it personally becaude subcategorizing the SC/STs on the lines of the OBCs will only bring even more unqualified people into prominence - it is better to proceed with the status quo.

Reservations are indeed rigged against the poorest and is an inherently elitist policy that is touted as a cure to hide the systematic incompetence of successive governments and divide the Hindu electorate. I do not care if you are an ST or taking advantage of a system that is designed to favor the top 5% but do not try to defend the indefensible.
where is this data of top 5% ST taking most government jobs comes from?? can u show me that. i think u r mixing two different things :- government jobs nd wealth accumulation in ST.
yes it happening in some places, like meena community from rajasthan, they r dominating in ST. same thing happened in OBC, where yadav community is dominating most. same case in brahmans, where reddy community is dominating. same case in dalit, where kumar nd ram community dominate.
so every place hv some dominating community in every caste. that doesnt mean they r doing illegal or wrong thing. may be they r more focused in education nd preparing their children from childhood or they hv population number with them.
Supreme court nd parliament also agreed to give reservation to genral (OBC nd EWC) by economy means. which never was cretaria before 1991. so what we can expect, they again want same thing in SC/ST😂.
can u show me ST reservation given in constitution due to economy?? i dont see SC/ST nd women reservation given based on economy. thats why i m saying creamy layer dont make sense in SC/ST. but who can question decision of that judges panel, who hv no ST judge on it. how can be it not baised nd one sided😂.
i never show any protest of any tribes, who r saying only some community is benefitting from ST reservations. mostly this type noises i m hearing from genral people 😂.
 
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Yes.

Not Government jobs but I'm more interested in Universities etc. Why should a poor UC have to compete for only 40% of University seats?

Any country that practices reservation should fail and it will.

Remember my prophecy, India is a weakling which even a country with 5 Lakh population like Maldives isn't afraid of. Before you say, Maldives has calmed down, yeah they've calmed down because they realised sweet talking will get them continous $$$$$ from Vishawacoolie India.
u r ignoring many factors...first thing all genral family females also benefit with women reservation in most colleges nd many government nd some time private jobs. including ur family females. beside this every state reserve college seats nd state level jobs for its state people. by that, that state genral (boy nd girl both) also get benefitted. sports quota also aviable for genral also. which help them in college nd some jobs also. u can argue how much that benefited a genral, compare to others...but its there, u cant blind ur eyes. beside this EWS nd OBC reservation also given to genral population. dont think OBC created from thin air.
if poor UC competing in open 43% seats, than its government nd their fault also. coz OBC nd EWS (near 37% reservation) created for economic weak class from 80% general in 1991 nd 2019. that why OBC full form is "other backward class". its not caste but class of genral.
i dont think, india need to afraid others to get prosper. these r two different things. well never mind. u will leave india next year. hope u will also leave ur negativity, pollitics, problems etc of india. just leave all these things to us indian people, who will never leave india. even we dont want to leave our state. u enjoy ur life in other country. 👍👍
 
I do not care if you are an ST or taking advantage of a system that is designed to favor the top 5% but do not try to defend the indefensible
Let it be how it is.
Despite creamy top of SCST getting most of the sests they have 2/3rd or sometimes even half the cut off of Gen. If govt even tried to introduce the creamy layer imagine the cut off worsening , additionally SCST at the bottom of the barrel itself will start rioting for benefit of affluent SCST.
 
Let it be how it is.
Despite creamy top of SCST getting most of the sests they have 2/3rd or sometimes even half the cut off of Gen. If govt even tried to introduce the creamy layer imagine the cut off worsening , additionally SCST at the bottom of the barrel itself will start rioting for benefit of affluent SCST.
naah rioting for some government jobs not going to happen in ST (not in my state). i dont see even any ST making protest, that other ST benefiting with reservation.
yes cutoff is lowest...coz lowest number of ST filled competitive exams/colleges compare to others. even this cutoff is due to some ST starting to migrate in cities. In all india near 10% ST live in urban nd in my state near 5%. these people r raising ST cutoff higher every year.
u need to understand most ST first time involving in education. before that farming, animals, business was our profession. even our tribe only ask for government for ST reservation near 1967...when our business stopped with tibbetan in 1962 nd we face losses due to our most goods stuck in tibbet. otherwise we hv no intrest in education 😂. neither our parents etc force us for education nd government jobs. most of us r second genration educated ones. by the way we r most educated (80% approx literacy rate) in uttarakhand ST😂. but u can understand what kind of quality of that education.
again, there is no data..which says top ST (creamy layer) getting most jobs. dont know from where this information is coming. if u hv that data plz provide me....i even bet u hv any ST classmate with u😂. they r rare species, except in north east india nd middle india😂.
 
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When the next partition happens, UC Hindus must get their own country. UC's should work towards unity with fellow UC's. Don't be divided and don't fall for the muh Hindu unity BS. Right now, Hindu unity means all the perks for LC's and all responsibiities for UC's.

No need to share the new country with literal LEECHES.
Never go full retard.You do remember this caste-politics was brought by a so-called UC members. Let us assume your dream come true. You guys will fight among themselves by again using the opperser-oppresed semantic.
 
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where is this data of top 5% ST taking most government jobs comes from?? can u show me that. i think u r mixing two different things :- government jobs nd wealth accumulation in ST.
yes it happening in some places, like meena community from rajasthan, they r dominating in ST. same thing happened in OBC, where yadav community is dominating most. same case in brahmans, where reddy community is dominating. same case in dalit, where kumar nd ram community dominate.
so every place hv some dominating community in every caste. that doesnt mean they r doing illegal or wrong thing. may be they r more focused in education nd preparing their children from childhood or they hv population number with them.
Supreme court nd parliament also agreed to give reservation to genral (OBC nd EWC) by economy means. which never was cretaria before 1991. so what we can expect, they again want same thing in SC/ST😂.
can u show me ST reservation given in constitution due to economy?? i dont see SC/ST nd women reservation given based on economy. thats why i m saying creamy layer dont make sense in SC/ST. but who can question decision of that judges panel, who hv no ST judge on it. how can be it not baised nd one sided😂.
i never show any protest of any tribes, who r saying only some community is benefitting from ST reservations. mostly this type noises i m hearing from genral people 😂.
Only reservation I support is reservation of poor people that too about 20%.
 
Only reservation I support is reservation of poor people that too about 20%.
if u can remove other many poverty schemes nd benefits for poor...including in education area like as scholarship, fees grant, mid day meal, free laptop/tablets etc...than i hv no problem in poor reservation, coz than u r not providing poor any support. but all kind of reservation is beneficial for less or higher amount to all 4 category (genral, OBC, SC nd ST). any type of reservation is compromise in merit. either reject them all, or be adjust urself with them. 😂
all poor student of 10th nd 12th grade in government schools (uttarakhand), which pay income was below 200000 gets 12000 rupee for tablets.
 
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if u can remove other many poverty schemes nd benefits for poor...including in education area like as scholarship, fees grant, mid day meal, free laptop/tablets etc...than i hv no problem in poor reservation, coz than u r not providing poor any support. but all kind of reservation is beneficial for less or higher amount to all 4 category (genral, OBC, SC nd ST). any type of reservation is compromise in merit. either reject them all, or be adjust urself with them. 😂
You are conflating two different things. Also merit is not equal to compentancy. You could be meritious but not be compent enough. It just that merit is best way we currently have.
 
You are conflating two different things. Also merit is not equal to compentancy. You could be meritious but not be compent enough. It just that merit is best way we currently have.
if u r advocating only poverty base reservation...than i hv to ask u, their r so many schemes for poor. if u want to help even more to poor, give them more scholarship, fees grant, low interest in education loans, free books etc etc. why u r providing them help in college entry nd jobs??? thats is happening in most countries, with poor. do u see any country providing college entry nd jobs to poor?? meanwhile india also provide many schemes to poor students...from scholarship, mid day meal, fees grant, free education till 12th class etc. In most countries only tribal gets benefit/reservation in school nd college for obvious reasons.
 

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