CI/CT Operations

[Viper316]

Tired of this same old unseemly tactics , forces rushing in to get ambushed. for God's sake make use of the Gunships and ATGMs atleast for psyops.


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[Alby]

This upper brass only cares about pensions, reputation and what not. Once an officer goes from Brigadier to Lt Gen, he has a 50% chance of becoming a politician.

How come only topbrass is solely responsible for this mishaps.The. Central govt is responsible too..This very same govt came to power back in 2014 riding on the ineffectiveness of UPA in dealing with ambushes of BAT teams which in reality was very far in numbers than current ones.

 

[Mangal]

How come only topbrass is solely responsible for this mishaps.The. Central govt is responsible too..This very same govt came to power back in 2014 riding on the ineffectiveness of UPA in dealing with ambushes of BAT teams which in reality was very far in numbers than current ones.

In short you want to say the government should tell/ guide army how to make strategies for such encounters?

 

[COLDHEARTED AVIATOR]

For Those who don't use twitter :

Details from the last Ambushe are gruesome.

Soldiers were ambushed from two sides.

The site which terrorists choose did't had any cover of trees it was open

Terrorists picked the targets one by one, killed the soldiers with headshots using thermal scope

Most people say..Lets take POK like it is some Lays chips at a Grocery store.

We are not capable of taking POK..these numbers of dead are nothing we might face hundreds of casualties a day if we do that.

Plus we are not well equipped or trained.

 

[KumaoniReborn]

How come only topbrass is solely responsible for this mishaps.The. Central govt is responsible too..This very same govt came to power back in 2014 riding on the ineffectiveness of UPA in dealing with ambushes of BAT teams which in reality was very far in numbers than current ones.

I consider top brass as a part of central goverbmebt. too much internal politics going on

 

[fire starter]

In chu**** incompetent logo ko sirf daru pina aur golf khelna aata hai.

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[daya]

In chu**** incompetent logo ko sirf daru pina aur golf khelna aata hai.

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Ek hi ilaaj hai.. Recruitment to the post of soldier only...

 

[Viper316]

If it is true they should be captured alive and paraded in the streets of Jammu like a pig


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[crazywithmath]

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[Viper316]

Security forces initiates a large-scale search operation after a suspicious person was spotted in the Nagrota area. Another set of pakroaches encroached. Just deploy the IFVs to the Jammu IB replace the BSF with Army endless infiltration need a check

 

[Tier 1 Patriot]

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VDG performance is outstanding take casualities only because of obsolete weapons give them money job to get the job done but government support who support terrorists

 

[mist_consecutive]

If it is true they should be captured alive and paraded in the streets of Jammu like a pig


View: https://x.com/buntymahajan6/status/1813500318765789422?t=H0i34-ccP3HYx31psGyikw&s=19

Nothing surprising. This is exactly the text-book definition of Special Forces job, working behind enemy lines, not CI/CT ops, and definitely not room-intervention ops like how our PARA SF boys are made to do.

This is basically Pakistan's soft attack on us. SFs are dropped/sneaked in to enemy territory months in advance of actual war/invasion to set up observation and gather intel.

 

[Ultraman]

N168TB , heron drone from yesterday

will be interesting to collect those points the drone is circling around , gives an idea what terrorist movement or atleast what the army thinks movement is.

 

[hurrians]

Did Pakistan’s Ex-Army Men Carry Out Doda Attack? Was Their SSG Involved? Agencies Probing All Angles - News18

According to agency sources, the group of terrorists in Doda “could be former Pakistan army regulars and not ordinary mercenaries given the skill with which they have remained hidden in forests and targeted the uncovered areas”

www.news18.com

.old infiltration routes being reactivated
.highly motivated and trained terrorists engaging in classical ambush ( which even our member kumoaini identified as L shaped ambush, in DFI)
.specialised arm ammunition used, adept in jungle warfare
.going on since atleast 2021

We should come out of koi nahi gusa and kadi ninda mentality

After taking lot of hit ,IA will probably gain the upperhand but these could have been avoided by being more proactive.

Back to the forests and hills.

 

[hurrians]

"The most shocking thing is that there is no accountability despite so many casualties. No one seems to be bothered, be it the political leadership or the army top brass,”

https://www.telegraphindia.com/india/upsurge-of-militant-attacks-in-jammu-due-to-complete-intelligence-failure/cid/2034158

 

[Arad Operator]

N168TB , heron drone from yesterday

will be interesting to collect those points the drone is circling around , gives an idea what terrorist movement or atleast what the army thinks movement is.

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[Alby]

In short you want to say the government should tell/ guide army how to make strategies for such encounters?

End of the day its govt is the one ultimately responsible for everything.Remember back in those days encounters do happen in kashmir but ambushes and one sided attacks were very rare.

 

[crazywithmath]

"The most shocking thing is that there is no accountability despite so many casualties. No one seems to be bothered, be it the political leadership or the army top brass,”

https://www.telegraphindia.com/india/upsurge-of-militant-attacks-in-jammu-due-to-complete-intelligence-failure/cid/2034158

From the article;

A security official attached to the Border Security Force (BSF) said the eroding trust in the security establishment among locals had made counter-terror operations in Jammu very challenging. Citing the death of three civilians after being allegedly tortured by army officers following the Poonch terror attack in December last year, the official said public trust was the biggest casualty of that incident.


“Instead of propagating false narratives of ‘Naya Kashmir’, the government and security agencies need to confront the grim ground reality and act accordingly,” he said.

Telegraph peddling their own agenda here. That paper is the de facto mouthpiece of the TMC - no need to take them seriously.

 

[hurrians]

Clinical ops with intel, tech support to counter terrorists in Jammu region

Security forces identify 48 locations in six districts of Rajouri, Poonch, Reasi, Kathua, Udhampur and Doda for multi-force deployment

www.hindustantimes.com

. infiltration happening through LOC/IB
. speacilist groups being pushed into Jammu to target troops, avoiding civilian casualty (for OGW support)
.Selective targeted killings of hindus, such as the 2023 Dangri village massacre – where militants stormed the village, killing seven civilians – and the recent assault on a pilgrimage bus in Reasi,

Dangri attack | Juvenile held for ‘harbouring terrorists’

Juvenile apprehended for harboring terrorists involved in killing 5 civilians in Jammu and Kashmir, says NIA.

www.thehindu.com

Jammu Faces a New Wave of Terrorism With Divergent Tactics Unseen in the Last Two Decades

The geographical shift of these terror attacks suggests a strategic broadening of terrorist objectives, and counter-terror tactics that were effective in Kashmir may not translate well to the distinct geopolitical and social landscape of Jammu.

thewire.in

 

[angryindian]

End of the day its govt is the one ultimately responsible for everything.Remember back in those days encounters do happen in kashmir but ambushes and one sided attacks were very rare.

Back in those days, we were fighting insurgents in Nagaland, Assam, Manipur, Tripura, Punjab,J&K and Sri Lanka.

The insurgency of those days was 10000 times more viscous than what it is today. Some groups like the Nagas were sometimes even better armed than us

Still, we crushed them all with nothing more than SRLs, Shaktiman Trucks, and Jongas.