CI/CT Operations

Mangal said:
In short you want to say the government should tell/ guide army how to make strategies for such encounters?
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End of the day its govt is the one ultimately responsible for everything.Remember back in those days encounters do happen in kashmir but ambushes and one sided attacks were very rare.
 
hurrians said:
"The most shocking thing is that there is no accountability despite so many casualties. No one seems to be bothered, be it the political leadership or the army top brass,”

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From the article;

A security official attached to the Border Security Force (BSF) said the eroding trust in the security establishment among locals had made counter-terror operations in Jammu very challenging. Citing the death of three civilians after being allegedly tortured by army officers following the Poonch terror attack in December last year, the official said public trust was the biggest casualty of that incident.


“Instead of propagating false narratives of ‘Naya Kashmir’, the government and security agencies need to confront the grim ground reality and act accordingly,” he said.
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Telegraph peddling their own agenda here. That paper is the de facto mouthpiece of the TMC - no need to take them seriously.
 
www.hindustantimes.com

Clinical ops with intel, tech support to counter terrorists in Jammu region

Security forces identify 48 locations in six districts of Rajouri, Poonch, Reasi, Kathua, Udhampur and Doda for multi-force deployment
www.hindustantimes.com www.hindustantimes.com

. infiltration happening through LOC/IB
. speacilist groups being pushed into Jammu to target troops, avoiding civilian casualty (for OGW support)
.Selective targeted killings of hindus, such as the 2023 Dangri village massacre – where militants stormed the village, killing seven civilians – and the recent assault on a pilgrimage bus in Reasi,

www.thehindu.com

Dangri attack | Juvenile held for ‘harbouring terrorists’

Juvenile apprehended for harboring terrorists involved in killing 5 civilians in Jammu and Kashmir, says NIA.
www.thehindu.com www.thehindu.com

thewire.in

Jammu Faces a New Wave of Terrorism With Divergent Tactics Unseen in the Last Two Decades

The geographical shift of these terror attacks suggests a strategic broadening of terrorist objectives, and counter-terror tactics that were effective in Kashmir may not translate well to the distinct geopolitical and social landscape of Jammu.
thewire.in thewire.in
 
Alby said:
End of the day its govt is the one ultimately responsible for everything.Remember back in those days encounters do happen in kashmir but ambushes and one sided attacks were very rare.
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Back in those days, we were fighting insurgents in Nagaland, Assam, Manipur, Tripura, Punjab,J&K and Sri Lanka.

The insurgency of those days was 10000 times more viscous than what it is today. Some groups like the Nagas were sometimes even better armed than us

Still, we crushed them all with nothing more than SRLs, Shaktiman Trucks, and Jongas.
 
angryindian said:
Back in those days, we were fighting insurgents in Nagaland, Assam, Manipur, Tripura, Punjab,J&K and Sri Lanka.

The insurgency of those days was 10000 times more viscous than what it is today. Some groups like the Nagas were sometimes even better armed than us

Still, we crushed them all with nothing more than SRLs, Shaktiman Trucks, and Jongas.
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True , but the things we did then to control it can't be done today .
PAPA2 and similar was instrumental in creating fear , but today if we try to do something like it all hell will break loose . In todays environment with sm and tech , CI/CT has become hard
 
CI/CT , ECONOMICS should be free of politics.

Most Indian politicians are friends irrespective of their party affiliation.
People who believe otherwise end up as Thomas crook (in the most extreme case)


( Lot more to their friendship)

.Robert Vadra has he been jailed
.jairam ramesh

www.thehindu.com

EC asks Jairam Ramesh to share details of claim on Amit Shah calling up DMs

Election Commission seeks information from Jairam Ramesh on Amit Shah's alleged calls to district officials before vote counting.
www.thehindu.com www.thehindu.com

Has he faced action?

CI CT needs to be analysed criticised rationally and yes some of these reports are from other party publications but facts should be analysed.

As I said IA will overcome this setback, but it could have been better prepared.
 
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angryindian said:
Back in those days, we were fighting insurgents in Nagaland, Assam, Manipur, Tripura, Punjab,J&K and Sri Lanka.

The insurgency of those days was 10000 times more viscous than what it is today. Some groups like the Nagas were sometimes even better armed than us

Still, we crushed them all with nothing more than SRLs, Shaktiman Trucks, and Jongas.
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But those groups did not have the active aid of CIA or US intelligence services.
 
angryindian said:
Back in those days, we were fighting insurgents in Nagaland, Assam, Manipur, Tripura, Punjab,J&K and Sri Lanka.

The insurgency of those days was 10000 times more viscous than what it is today. Some groups like the Nagas were sometimes even better armed than us

Still, we crushed them all with nothing more than SRLs, Shaktiman Trucks, and Jongas.
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We didn't crush them completely
What I mean is we dealt with every insurgency and solved the matter but never uprooted it
And that's the fact every now and then these insurgencies will rise time to time with help of global masters
The way khalistani separatism is rising sophisticatedly is testimony to it
In future u will see many older insurgencies rising and the circle will keep on repeating
We are dealing with problem temporarily by not chasing down their funding their people their middle men their supply chain their masterminds and especially not subverting the particular section of people involved in it
Until then they will be evolving and erupting
 
Viper316 said:
If it is true they should be captured alive and paraded in the streets of Jammu like a pig


View: https://x.com/buntymahajan6/status/1813500318765789422?t=H0i34-ccP3HYx31psGyikw&s=19
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Why ? This is the story after every ambush... We try to reduce our humiliation by saying that those tangos are ex Pak Army or SSG.. They may well be ex SSG, but it's beside the point.. Natives like Uzair Khan killed last year, have also killed Army officers in ambush..
Army needs some serious relook at SOP
 
MasterChief said:
Why ? This is the story after every ambush... We try to reduce our humiliation by saying that those tangos are ex Pak Army or SSG.. They may well be ex SSG, but it's beside the point.. Natives like Uzair Khan killed last year, have also killed Army officers in ambush..
Army needs some serious relook at SOP
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I mean they are pushing the last ambush as an encounter what can you expect they hid the 2 beheadings in an ambush the army is being politicalised and it’s not good it will affect us in wars when the generals care more about the politicians than their own men
 
Baseplate said:
True , but the things we did then to control it can't be done today .
PAPA2 and similar was instrumental in creating fear , but today if we try to do something like it all hell will break loose . In todays environment with sm and tech , CI/CT has become hard
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There is no need of PAPA2 as It's much more difficult to be an insurgent today than 20-30 years ago.
There is a tighter border control and monitoring. Besides few will dare to pick up the gun as their Immediate family members will lose their jobs, land, and houses, and be blacklisted from getting any form of employment.

As i speak, there are very few terrorists in the valley, numbering not more than 100.
This is a far cry from the 10,000-20,000 we had in the 90's.
 
fire starter said:

View: https://twitter.com/ghatakoperator/status/1813426193896473013
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jaijaganath said:
Just go through this thread
And imagine the damage happened due to incompetence of genrails and inaction of govt
Although can't guarantee accuracy but from 2021-24 we have lost 219 soldiers to ambushes only (according to this thread)
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This thread is complete bullshit. There wasn’t a single gun fired from january 2024-may 2024. Only a few encounters here and there. Only recently have we suffered KIA.
 
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