GTRE GTX 35VS Kaveri

Cyclops said:
GTRE Director - 18:40 onwards


View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a4OIUB1GCMg
  • Unsuccessfully "begging" people to get timeslots for the high-altitude test beds and flying test beds, probably in Russia.
  • No 50K hydraulic press.
  • Only spent $250 million when 10 times the amount is needed - $2.5 billion.
  • URGENTLY NEEDED - A coordinated national mission for aero-engines involving all stakeholders(and that probably would mean IAF not just sitting and ordering fighters and aero-engines like biryani in a restaurant. They need to be more proactively involved in making said biryani - maybe even earmarking part of their funds for R&D; exactly like responsible forces like USAF and USN do)
  • Need for more skilled manpower. He implies a 'Dutch Disease' phenomenon in India, where graduates are going to IT instead of deep tech in MTech.
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View: https://x.com/alpha_defense/status/1885921894270165443

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View: https://www.youtube.com/live/fIsE84Cke5Y?si=tW9zOtuz4Jdgz8z0

This is a 3 hour + program on the present & future of the Indian Aero Engine program & ecosystem. From what I understand all answers on the Kaveri & any & every derivative engine of the Kaveri is also in it including plans for a 90 KN KED to power the LCA Mk-1a
during the MLU , it's testing protocol , time taken , etc except I haven't the time & patience to go thru it & summarise the points.

If any body out here is considerate enough to do it , please list out the necessary points for the benefit of the entire forum.
 
Anants said:
I thought an Indian Mfg company would have taken the challenge - given it was MECO giving consultancy.
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What's the maximum capacity hydraulic forging press we've installed in India ? If I'm not mistaken HAL has one & it's ~ 20, 000 tons capacity or less.

Ideally we should be taking a leaf out of China & get a local company involved in a partnership for them to derive learning & for usual preventive & defective maintenance.
 
Last time I enquired jindal steel imported most of its equipment from Japan Machine Work and other such japanese firms. Forge as low as 2500 ton was imported.
That is too be expected from a man that said we are not looking into R&D this decade.

It's pathetic really.
 
Azaad said:
What's the maximum capacity hydraulic forging press we've installed in India ? If I'm not mistaken HAL has one & it's ~ 20, 000 tons capacity or less.

Ideally we should be taking a leaf out of China & get a local company involved in a partnership for them to derive learning & for usual preventive & defective maintenance.
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Exactly I would have liked L&T, Kalyani and BHEL to form consortium in manufacturing heavy forging press. L&T has 10T press. I am surprised given India is one of the largest producer of steel and also has large sources of iron ore - we should have invested long ago in R&D of heavy forgings. We seriously lack investment in making big furnaces anyway for steel sector. So Drills, Forgings, Furnaces is something we should be building capacity here.
 
Anants said:
L&T has 10T press
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Not their own.
L&T has its own hydraulic division but they supply peripheral components of hydraulic systems like crane. I'm sure they can manufacture 10000 to 25000 ton press if they try but market dynamics does not suit it.
You see most indian companies are able to manufacture below 1000 ton because market dynamics Suit it. There are several industries that employ 100 to 250 ton press across gujarat like die makers, knock off automobile component's, sanitary.
I have posted about these companies in Promising startup and companies thread.

When it comes to super heavy presses we are missing the local market for its demand: shipbuilding, aerospace, heavy machinery, composites, automobile.

That is why we import 1.26 million tons of special grade steel component's from Choina which are most likely formed in heavy press.

Indian firms find it easier to import 5k 10 k press than to invests in building their own.

Maybe give tax breaks in form of money invested in r&d in particular sectors directed by Gorminy can do the trick.
 
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