India Canada Relations

Vinod Patter said:
Some serious problems , economic collapse, systematic collapse of Institutions must happen accompanied by uncontrollable civil war for a country to collapse/Balkanize. When everything working fine in India with growing economy I don't think there is any danger to territorial integrity of India .
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The thing people can't get is Civil War is impossible in India. Civil Wars happens only in two scenarios 1. A Singular Race/Religion/Ethnicity divided on a issue like American Civil War 2. Two Equal Majority Groups with each having populace above 40% divided on a issue. India is Multi Linguistic, Multi Ethnic, Multi Religious. Moreover all those Civil War shenanigans need Forces. Here, Indian Armed Forces although the top brass are questionable, when it comes to these scenarios they gonna very much obey the orders. Finally there are Nukes. We faced far more ruthless conditions while in poverty and no communications.

Democratization of Communication means like Starlink or such makes one think that these Civil Wars/Insurgencies thing can happen much more but at the same time should notice that the grip of a central governing body also became tighter.
 
SlayingHell said:
The thing people can't get is Civil War is impossible in India. Civil Wars happens only in two scenarios 1. A Singular Race/Religion/Ethnicity divided on a issue like American Civil War 2. Two Equal Majority Groups with each having populace above 40% divided on a issue. India is Multi Linguistic, Multi Ethnic, Multi Religious. Moreover all those Civil War shenanigans need Forces. Here, Indian Armed Forces although the top brass are questionable, when it comes to these scenarios they gonna very much obey the orders. Finally there are Nukes. We faced far more ruthless conditions while in poverty and no communications.

Democratization of Communication means like Starlink or such makes one think that these Civil Wars/Insurgencies thing can happen much more but at the same time should notice that the grip of a central governing body also became tighter.
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Yes India has fought Kasmiri , Punjab, NE, Naxal (in Andhra, Orissa, Chhattisgarh, Maharashtra, Bengal), LTTE in south and insurgency in NE almost simultaneously - even when India was not trillion dollar economy. But what it did was bleed India dry, dragged our economy and net net - we always had demographic shift which were not conducive.
So confident India can take on new challenges also - provided Indians are ready to take on economic and social shocks that come along. Earlier Indians were used to live by simple means. Upcoming generation of Indians wont take it easy.
 
Anants said:
Yes India has fought Kasmiri , Punjab, NE, Naxal (in Andhra, Orissa, Chhattisgarh, Maharashtra, Bengal) and insurgency in NE almost simultaneously - even when India was not trillion dollar economy. But what it did was bleed India dry, dragged our economy. SO confident India can take on new challenges also.
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Trudeau is nothing more than entertainment for the government.
 
SlayingHell said:
The thing people can't get is Civil War is impossible in India. Civil Wars happens only in two scenarios 1. A Singular Race/Religion/Ethnicity divided on a issue like American Civil War 2. Two Equal Majority Groups with each having populace above 40% divided on a issue. India is Multi Linguistic, Multi Ethnic, Multi Religious. Moreover all those Civil War shenanigans need Forces. Here, Indian Armed Forces although the top brass are questionable, when it comes to these scenarios they gonna very much obey the orders. Finally there are Nukes. We faced far more ruthless conditions while in poverty and no communications.

Democratization of Communication means like Starlink or such makes one think that these Civil Wars/Insurgencies thing can happen much more but at the same time should notice that the grip of a central governing body also became tighter.
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It's not as ez and pz are the burgers would have us believe.

Centre still controls the men with guns, viz Army and CAPFs, for any actual successful civil war they will have to provide arms,ammo and training to their chosen puppets here, which works for certain areas like the NE where Burma is imploding and all kachra from there is flooding in.

btw per Anglo-Saxon calculations our Republic should have imploded in the first decade of independence itself, but we are still here, inspite of West backed jihadi state attacking us and atleast 4 different types of insurgencies in various parts of the country.

The key ingredient for a successful Civil War is the weakening of the Central Govt, they are trying to do this but with Gobiji at the helm it is impossible.

They need the Congi KHICHDI Alliance in power for that, they will defang central govt power and increase (((federalism))) because a 90 seat party cannot dictate terms to it's regional party allies upon whom the coalition depends.
 
DingDong said:
US doesn't tolerate competition, not even from it's NATO/European allies. Remember the Australia-France submarine deal? US seeks total compliance (with us or against us).

Russia, China and India pose credible threat to the US's worldview. Setting the mutual conflicts aside, the way these three countries are playing with the "former superpower" suggests that they have discovered the pattern and a chink in it's armor.

Despite it's massive defense budget, the US has been gradually overstretched to the extent that it has been forced to seek new alliances. Unfortunately for it, the new alliance partners are not ready to behave like it's European minions and seek a more equitable relationship.

The US is trying to not repeat it's biggest cold-war blunder. It created a monster (China) while trying to defeat the USSR. It just doesn't want to create another monster (India) while trying to contain China. Unfortunately, the trends are unfavorable for the US.
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Broader economic trends point towards a $10 trillion Indian economy by 2032 & considering we produce most of NATO ammo & wares , their dependency on us will rise to the similar extent as PRC for goods & services. In long term their ageing demographics will force them to seek greener pastures for investment in a major economy which will further benefit us . In short GloboHomo can do nothing to prevent the rise of Bharat.
 
shade2 said:
It's not as ez and pz are the burgers would have us believe.

Centre still controls the men with guns, viz Army and CAPFs, for any actual successful civil war they will have to provide arms,ammo and training to their chosen puppets here, which works for certain areas like the NE where Burma is imploding and all kachra from there is flooding in.

btw per Anglo-Saxon calculations our Republic should have imploded in the first decade of independence itself, but we are still here, inspite of West backed jihadi state attacking us and atleast 4 different types of insurgencies in various parts of the country.

The key ingredient for a successful Civil War is the weakening of the Central Govt, they are trying to do this but with Gobiji at the helm it is impossible.

They need the Congi KHICHDI Alliance in power for that, they will defang central govt power and increase (((federalism))) because a 90 seat party cannot dictate terms to it's regional party allies upon whom the coalition depends.
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bhai Civil war won’t happen in India , irrespective of the conditions. Hindu society is a static society. It prefers incremental change instead of revolutions.

Whether that’s good or bad IDK.
 
sameer said:
bhai Civil war won’t happen in India , irrespective of the conditions. Hindu society is a static society. It prefers incremental change instead of revolutions.

Whether that’s good or bad IDK.
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Possible but they'll have to weaken Central Govt, that's a tall order in and of itself.
Till Central Govt is strong we can fight multiple insurgencies at the same time.

For riots if lathis don't work some good firing should do the job.

As our economy grows and so does our industrial capacity, the media drama of human rights violation and sanctions threats based on that would also diminish.
 
sameer said:
bhai Civil war won’t happen in India , irrespective of the conditions. Hindu society is a static society. It prefers incremental change instead of revolutions.

Whether that’s good or bad IDK.
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what he saying that west and China knows bolded part. Thats why efforts are being made to erode the stable base which Hinduism provides.
 
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