Indian Air Force: News & Discussions

January 5

An Indian Coast Guard HAL Dhruv Mk 3 helicopter crashed on landing at Porbandar Airport, Gujarat, India, killing all 3 people on board.

February 6

A Dassault Mirage 2000 fighter jet of the Indian Air Force crashed on Shivpuri district, in Madhya Pradesh. The two pilots on board ejected safely from the aircraft

March 7

A SEPECAT Jaguar of the Indian Air Force crashed during a training exercise in Haryana due to an unspecified technical malfunction. The pilot ejected safely but the aircraft was destroyed.

An Antonov An-32 of the Indian Air Force crashed on landing at Bagdogra Airport. Although the aircraft was destroyed there were no fatalities.
 

India in talks for 10 more Airbus C-295 aircraft in ageing fleet revamp, sources say​

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India is in talks to purchase 10 more Airbus C-295 military transport aircraft than the 71 it had planned...
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India's government in 2021 struck a $2.52 billion deal for 56 C-295 aircraft for the Air Force, and last year gave an initial nod for 15 more for its navy and coast guard. Now, talks are on to add up to 10 aircraft to the 2024 order, said the three sources, who declined to be named as the talks are private.
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The source who said the expanded order was for the Air Force also said the Indian government is likely to place more orders for C-295s, while a separate industry source, familiar with the Ministry of Defence's thinking, said New Delhi wants up to 75 more C-295s, above the 56 ordered in 2021.
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Sixteen C-295s from the 2021 order are due to come from Airbus' site in Spain while the remaining are expected to be assembled at the Airbus-Tata facility in India by 2031.
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https://www.reuters.com/business/ae...t-ageing-fleet-revamp-sources-say-2025-02-28/
 

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SKC said:
They know things already! They are just signaling to Govt to go shopping outside again for 5G planes.
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It is a legit requirement. PSUs ,DRDO programme are all running late. Tejas mk 2 won't get inducted before 2030 atleast. Amca by ADA's own estimate is atleast 10 yrs far. What do we do till then if pak were to get 5G jets which it will ? Has the govt held Hal, DRDO accountable for delay in production , development? Frankly govt should first hold itself responsible for the delay in sanctioning funds for Mk2 and AMCA. Only a hard whip on all research, production agencies+ generous govt funding will set the house in order and we will probably have some 2-3 yrs early
 
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truthsoldier said:

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It is a legit requirement. PSUs ,DRDO programme are all running late. Tejas mk 2 won't get inducted before 2030 atleast. Amca by ADA's own estimate is atleast 10 yrs delay. What do we do till then if pak were to get 5G jets which it will ? Has the govt held Hal, DRDO accountable for delay in development? Frankly govt should first hold itself responsible for the delay in sanctioning funds for Mk2 and AMCA. Only a hard whip on all research, production agencies+ generous govt funding will set the house in order and we will probably have some 2-3 yrs early
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This has been debated to death - why the programs are running late. They will always be running late because we keep changing the requirements, keep adding new things which brings the agencies to drawing board again. if everything going right then we get stuck with the pricing.

Also, if we sign a 5th Gen place deal today how early we will get the first plane? What are the options available for us.​
 
Bcoz of lackluster attitude regarding
modernisation over past 3.5 decades we have been hit by 2 issues at once (which no other major/professional/serious airforce has faced):

*Falling fighter squadron strength &
* Enemy inducting 5th gen fighters while our own option whether indigenous or imported is nowhere in sight

As to how soon Pakis will induct their 1st 5th gen fighter? I am convinced it would be no later than March 2027... after that our leaders, marshals, media and general populace can keep discussing the poor state of paki economy... which is our favorite timepass cope.
 
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OTOH , the good ACM is telling us there's no offer for F-35 on the table & OTOH we're being told that Paxtan will be featuring the FC-31 soon which means we need a 5th Gen FA pronto.

However the IAF in its wisdom has deemed the 4.5th Gen + Rafale good enough to handle the J-20.

That , till date neither has the IAF nor "sources" close to it or the MoD / GoI - read "corridors of power" like Shishir Gupta of HT or ANI have ever spoken of the Su-57 should tell those advocating for it what the aforementioned entities think of the Russian plane .

Make out of it what you can or connect the dots .
 
Azaad said:
OTOH , the good ACM is telling us there's no offer for F-35 on the table & OTOH we're being told that Paxtan will be featuring the FC-31 soon which means we need a 5th Gen FA pronto.

However the IAF in its wisdom has deemed the 4.5th Gen + Rafale good enough to handle the J-20.

That , till date neither has the IAF nor "sources" close to it or the MoD / GoI - read "corridors of power" like Shishir Gupta of HT or ANI have ever spoken of the Su-57 should tell those advocating for it what the aforementioned entities think of the Russian plane .

Make out of it what you can or connect the dots .
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I think more than F35, IAF wants Rafale. In fact it has been treating the Russian assets like stepchildren for quite some time now. We could have had a couple of squadrons of Super Sukhoi if the IAF were serious about it, but we have none at hand, which says a lot about the IAF's preference.

Given the Chief's comments and reports, one can deduce that IAF wants Rafle in MMRCA not only as a fighter but also to crush HAL's monopoly by having it manufactured by a private player. They would risk not having Su 57 and F35 for the time being, if Rafale is produced in large numbers(100+ ) by private Indian MIC
 
Migflug said:

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Lmao he wants a trip in it, but I guess unfortunately LM does not have a twin seater F35 ever built. (No pic I could found)
Migflug said:

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Its live on YT now!!
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It's getting annoying now. These vardi walas are more loyal to their fellow vardi wala than nation.
Has any top ranked OROP Jurnail made media appearances and told how step-motherly treatment LCA recieved in contrast to IAF opening their all orifices in favour of substandard foreign maal.
 
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Lmao he wants a trip in it, but I guess unfortunately LM does not have a twin seater F35 ever built.

It's getting annoying now. These vardi walas are more loyal to their fellow vardi wala than nation.
Has any top ranked OROP Jurnail made media appearances and told how step-motherly treatment LCA recieved in contrast to IAF opening their all orifices in favour of substandard foreign maal.
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He did mention about changes in SQR for Tejas which led to further delays.
 
Migflug said:
He did mention about changes in SQR for Tejas which led to further delays.
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Common man doesn't understand what SQR is, they won't even get that it's IAF causing delays, they only remembers him yapping majja nahi aya. Their dire situation is not making of 1 year's engine delay, yet his loudmouth attitude has diverted all blame towards HAL. What is he doing about awacs, refueler, ISR , elint platforms ?
 
Migflug said:
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Trick or retreat: There’s a grand deception behind Indian military shortfalls, and in this column

It is fashionable to curse Rajiv Gandhi for Bofors and more, but the truth is that 1985-89 was the only period in our history when weapons acquisitions were proactive and futuristic.
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Most of the purchases may well have been done in the Pappu Sr era but they were mostly negotiated for or initiated during IGs era.

Clutterji is devastating in his punchline & this is an indictment on Leaderji's defence policies. Apart from gestures & anodyne statements every Diwali or Dusshera where he marches off to remote locations to spend time with them being filmed to glory by every news channel in India he's actually not reformed the system SUBSTANTIALLY in any way whatsoever.

To make matters worse the only one effective DM he's had in his cabinet the late MP bolted to Goa the first chance he got with the result his predecessors or successors have mostly been place holders reflecting in the policies & actions of the MoD.

Apparently talk is the MRFA tender is to be revived . Furthermore defence reforms will entail that procurement procedures lasting a decade or more will now HAVE to be closed in a couple of years at the most , Israel style , where no requirements last for more than 2-3 years meaning that official requirements once issued by the armed forces are met either thru local mfg or by buying from external sources within 2-3 years.

Marry the 2 together & you could have an agreement on the MRFA by 2028 whereas we're supposed to go up against China by 2030 .

Why wasn't this done all these years then especially since the previous ACM Chaudhari was adamant he wanted the MRFA tender expedited ?

Shows us the seriousness of this administration on such a critical matter of one of the arms of our forces confronted as we are by 2 N powers at our borders where those borders are live & expected to get more alive if there's such a term or livelier , in the next few years.

Absolutely pathetic state of affairs !
 
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