Indian Air Force: News & Discussions (10 Viewers)

[BON PLAN]

It will take a long time before the M88 T-Rex engine becomes operational.

I think it will have to be ready for F5, ie 2030.
It's not a brand new engine. It's a M88 with new tech as higher turbine temperature.
There were rumors about a 87KN M88 for years (exactly when Rafale was purchased by UAE). The 87KN figure came from the Rafale inlets, designed for 15% more flow than the legacy engine.

 

[Ajatshatru]

Do you really imagine russia (or USA or GB or France) giving you all the source code ???
It is too dangerous for the seller and too precious.
The max possible is creating some special entry in the software so as to easily integrate new weapons and modify some functions. Not more.
And in the opposite case that only means one thing : the source code is or a old one or a lightened one.

Do you remember the mess when some commercial datas about Scorpene were realeased (by TKMS) ???

Russia won’t share source codes with Israel, but with India, this has never been an issue. All Russian platforms have integrated smoothly into India’s network-centric warfare ecosystem. In fact, India routinely replaces Russian avionics with indigenous systems—Su-30MKI will retain its Russian airframe and AL-31FP engines but, nearly all other systems will be Indian. India has even indigenized several components of the AL-31 engine itself to enhance thrust and extend service life. Indian military-industrial complex is deeply familiar with Russian hardware, and modifying or upgrading it has never posed a challenge for India.

 

[BON PLAN]

Russia won’t share source codes with Israel, but with India, this has never been an issue. All Russian platforms have integrated smoothly into India’s network-centric warfare ecosystem. In fact, India routinely replaces Russian avionics with indigenous systems—Su-30MKI will retain its Russian airframe and AL-31FP engines but, nearly all other systems will be Indian. India has even indigenized several components of the AL-31 engine itself to enhance thrust and extend service life. Indian military-industrial complex is deeply familiar with Russian hardware, and modifying or upgrading it has never posed a challenge for India.

That's absolutely dont mean that you have the russian codes.
Replacing a screen panel is easier than adding a mode in an electronic jamming pod.
Adding a short range missile, without data link is easier than integrate a medium range one, with data link.

Your MKI remains mainly russians.
Your MKI don't have sensor fusion, so easier for exemple to replace the radar with UTTAM than if it was linked with optronic and electronic jamming systems. And this replacement is on the agenda, but not made.

 

[Ajatshatru]

That's absolutely dont mean that you have the russian codes.
Replacing a screen panel is easier than adding a mode in an electronic jamming pod.
Adding a short range missile, without data link is easier than integrate a medium range one, with data link.

Your MKI remains mainly russians.
Your MKI don't have sensor fusion, so easier for exemple to replace the radar with UTTAM than if it was linked with optronic and electronic jamming systems. And this replacement is on the agenda, but not made.

The mission computer of Su-30MKI has been Indian from the very beginning, and even several components of the airframe and engine are of Indian origin. India has the capability to build an improved version of Su-30MKI from scratch but chooses not to, out of respect for the intellectual property rights of the original Russian manufacturer.

 

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View: https://x.com/shiv_cybersurg/status/1935598720063811791

off topic but what happened to this import dalla?

 

[redpanda]

View: https://x.com/Defencematrix1/status/1935279057073005056

Froggies must be asked by govt whether they are willing to sell us the M88 T-REX engine and can it be fitted in existing rafales.

This is a 90kn engine, could possibly be a replacement for the ((( GE F414 ))) that Americans will surely make us do mujra over

Well well well... something definitely is going on that front. It's either that or saffran is trying to sweeten the Rafale + AMCA engine deal..

 

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Well well well... something definitely is going on that front. It's either that or saffran is trying to sweeten the Rafale + AMCA engine deal..

It's carrots being dangled

The fuselage being made by TASL is the largest sweet Punjabi gajar halwa carrot
The Falcon 2000 FAL by Reliance in Nagpur is a chinese carrot
and this is another Chinese carrot

Or we have some 56" chested chad babooze working in the MoD, they have asked the Froggies for all these thinks before a contract gets inked, knowing how slippery and slimey the Froggies are even about contractual obligations.