Indian Air Force: News & Discussions

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Ayan Barat said:
If we're talking a LSCO with China with 500 J-20 then everything would be shot down in weeks; be it all our antiques or 250 Su-30MkIs that we've kept upgrading continuously to Super Ultra Pro Max standard or whatever numbers of AMCA we'll theoretically produce in next 15 years. It's not a fact of how advanced J-20 is or the usual BS of F-35's kill switch or Su-57 being a cheaper...it's has more to do with the budget, infrastructure and first mover's advantage of China.

As for NATO, we can't even dream of joining the current NATO led by USA with such high uncertainty in foreign policies. Maybe if there's a "new" NATO with say France as its centerpiece with countries like Japan and SoKo also in it, then we can think of it.
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I detect a wumao

Post hand Cheng
 
Nibbler said:
I detect a wumao

Post hand Cheng
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BHARAT KA BETA said:
May be...Many Chinese & Paki ears are moving around in the Indian defence forums....but who ever they are, they should keep it in mind that INDIA IS DADDY OF CHINKS & PORKS.
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Whatever Blud...if this is what prevents us from scrambling our asses after realising there isn't any Arctic gear for the next confrontation then I'll happily be a Wumao.

All hail our Lord the Saviour, the Sparrow Annihilator
 
vicky said:

View: https://youtu.be/IiORJBV0tOc?si=NddtwN-mObuYM8Bj


" MRFA should be pushed with a very large make in india content " 🤔according to formar IAF chief 😏
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The entire airforce is up arms to justify the F35 purchase, no wonder we are an imported airforce. This "STOPGAP" shit has been going on since the purchase of Mig21, as well as still buying stopgap. Come the early 40s, china will have matured its 6th gen and we will start scaping for the "STOPGAP" FCAS !!

it would be better if India joins the FCAS program, at least it won't be a "STOPGAP" in the 40s !!
 
Guys guys guys important!



What's in it for the generals? How do they get the piece of the pie in case of foreign mal?



we need to explore the mechanics of corruption.

I don't think there is a report anywhere that explain how high ranking defense personnel conduct their money minting.
 
Azaad said:
The theater ization & modernization of the Chinese armed forces are due to be completed in 2027-28. Add a year's buffer though it's mostly on schedule or at least I haven't come across articles claiming otherwise .

Whatever you can anticipate, whether Taiwan or India will occur post 2028 or 29.
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Very heartening to learn that we are safe till 2028-29. Previously it was 2027 iirc .

We'll have Amca prototype flying by 2028-29 ( if not further delayed).

That should count for something.
 
Migflug said:
it would be better if India joins the FCAS program, at least it won't be a "STOPGAP" in the 40s !!
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Another repeat of the FGFA, we will learn jackshit, get jackshit ToT. They will graciously allow us to fabricate non-sensitive LRUs and still make us import avionics and engines. There is simply no need to jointly produce fighter jets with any other country. We only need engine development JV.
Suryavanshi said:
Guys guys guys important!



What's in it for the generals? How do they get the piece of the pie in case of foreign mal?



we need to explore the mechanics of corruption.

I don't think there is a report anywhere that explain how high ranking defense personnel conduct their money minting.
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This is India, someone gets cut in for even the relatively insignificant things, like contracting for 10 kms of asphalting work.
 
Migflug said:
Ralfale will be a gamechanger.
S400 will be a gamechanger
Voronezh will be a gamechanger
F35 will be a gamechanger
Alhua gamechanger
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If it can detect stealth apart from BMs & CMs it's indeed a game changer. Why would you need the F-35 then ? The J-20 becomes just another 4.5++ Gen FA only better networked & with better systems like avionics & sensors.

Do go thru the ambitious plans of our armed forces to network all the radars whether civilian or military into one seamless grid apart from further adding capabilities & the IADS we're building , for your own benefit .

You'd know what that content creator is talking about.
 
Indianhawk said:
Very heartening to learn that we are safe till 2028-29. Previously it was 2027 iirc .
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Indianhawk said:
We'll have Amca prototype flying by 2028-29 ( if not further delayed).

That should count for something.
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Are you being sarcastic or are you joking ?

It's too late to implement anything substantial like getting new FAs be it the F-35s or even the Rafales , though in case of the latter a tiny window does exist for exercising the option for additional 36-54 nos for the IAF as integration will be easier if we were to get some if not all before 2030 .

However I don't see any developments from GoI in this direction .

We fight with what we have. Just internalise this mantra .
 
Indianhawk said:
I'm not sure these days.


This realisation might have forced iaf chief to publicly call out HAL.
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Wonder where was this realisation when his predecessor adamantly refused to go in for piece meal induction of the Rafales insisting on the MRFA tender publicly clashing with the then CDS the late Gen Rawat & is now justifying it in interviews with The misPrint & what was the placeholder of a DM & his boss 56' doing then ?

Result 3 years passed by & the entire security establishment especially the IAF were playing with their joysticks. On a scale of 1-10 where would you place delayed integration of the Astra missiles with the LCA to non induction of at least the second tranche of Rafales.

Had the deal been concluded in 2021 , we'd be taking possession of them now .
 
Azaad said:
Wonder where was this realisation when his predecessor adamantly refused to go in for piece meal induction of the Rafales insisting on the MRFA tender publicly clashing with the then CDS the late Gen Rawat & is now justifying it in interviews with The misPrint & what was the placeholder of a DM & his boss 56' doing then ?
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His predecessor was sure Rawat and Modi will come around on MRFA they couldn't read the tea leaves.

Which brings me back to my original assertion. No body in GOI takes Chinese threat seriously. Now I don't know whether there is overconfident in establishment or they are more realistic compared to defence community.

Anyways we shall learn the truth by 2030 one way or another.
 
Bleh said:
Indians do have to cope a lot about it, but so will the Tejas on our side.
Additionally, Pakistani stand always had been that F-16s moved in to keep Abhinandan engaged while Jf-17s sniped him, from the Day 1.
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Ahhh yes now we are taking Pakistani statement as gospel of truth.

Don't be ashamed to show your original flag. We welcome goatshaggers on this forums as well.

...& if they really got PL-15 then it's definitely better than Su-30 at BVRs rn.
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Shooting PL-15s with JF-17s radars ? Its like trying to shoot a .50BMG to a target 2 kms away but with just an iron sight.
 
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