Indian Army Artillery Programme

[SwordOfDarkness]

In case of plaines of punjab and all this is true but in case of mountains firing at max ranges doesn't occur due to variation in altitude contours and sometime targets is on the opposite side of the mountain in these cases high firing and direct firing is undertaken (which more or less makes the 48km record useless) other than that in tibet plains it could be a GAME change

Depends tbh. If firing from height into valley, 48 km range can be extended also.

 

[Anants]

>looks at tender for "indigenous" artillery guns
>looks inside
>two Indian guns
>pepe_smile.jpeg
>keeps looking at the rest of the tender
>An Israeli gun
>A French gun
>clown_emoji.png

I am also not sure how Israeli and French guns are under Indian Designed Developed Manufactured category of tender.

 

[Zoid Raptor]

View: https://x.com/NewsIADN/status/1824529953968296118?t=jXaXkQgYB7u61h83PNDvog&s=19

Import and kickbacks loving gernails will definitely go for Athos

 

[Charlie]

View: https://youtu.be/fzMaYpbtdCA?si=5g1MDuijAjBGml1C

 

[Mr.Evil]

View: https://x.com/wartrophy_414/status/1826100055503417700

 

[samsaptaka]

Orders are for light towed artillery. So, it's for against China. They should go for Bharat forge ULH. They have developed it already.
Baba Kalyani says it's one-third the price of m777 but they are made of steel.
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1/3rd the price implies less kickbacks to corrupt gernails and lobby, We will be very fortunate if atags even sees 100 no.s being ordered, its an Arjun in the making, and all corrupt bastards will go scot free...at this stage aatmanirbharta is a fking joke !

 

[Fatalis]

Indian Army starts process to buy more powerful and lighter artillery guns for Rs 7,000 crore - The Economic Times

The Indian Army has issued a tender for next-generation artillery guns to be designed and manufactured domestically. With an initial requirement of 400 units, the number is expected to rise as older equipment gets replaced. Private defense companies like Larsen & Toubro, Bharat Forge, and Tata...

m.economictimes.com

 

[Hari Sud]

Indian Army starts process to buy more powerful and lighter artillery guns for Rs 7,000 crore - The Economic Times

The Indian Army has issued a tender for next-generation artillery guns to be designed and manufactured domestically. With an initial requirement of 400 units, the number is expected to rise as older equipment gets replaced. Private defense companies like Larsen & Toubro, Bharat Forge, and Tata...

m.economictimes.com

Indian Army is doing its best to eliminate ATAGS from its acquisition list. Like the Olympic wrestling Championship where 100 grams were used to disqualify a candidate; Indian Army is using weight to disqualify a top of the line artillery gun with much higher range from acquisition. They did the same for Arjun tank about 10 years back, because they wanted a highly questionable T-90 tank.

The Army's acquisition and standard setting organization needs a full overhaul.

 

[ezsasa]

Indian Army starts process to buy more powerful and lighter artillery guns for Rs 7,000 crore - The Economic Times

The Indian Army has issued a tender for next-generation artillery guns to be designed and manufactured domestically. With an initial requirement of 400 units, the number is expected to rise as older equipment gets replaced. Private defense companies like Larsen & Toubro, Bharat Forge, and Tata...

m.economictimes.com

there are news reports this tender, but where is the tender(RFP)?
it's not on IA website, and there is no new arty related RFI either.

 

[Fatalis]

there are news reports this tender, but where is the tender(RFP)?
it's not on IA website, and there is no new arty related RFI either.

Did you find the RFP for ATAGS?

Looks like either IA has not released it or they are keeping it out from public domain.

 

[Clawreed]

View: https://youtu.be/Z2gSYZV9PAw?si=V-qCWbMILybslpNY
"We're not giving the complete order at one time for a particular type of gun...so that we can absorb better technology.. technology is fast changing.The aim is with every type of gun we can get the best technology available in market. "

Trials are going on for guided extended range with a range of 75km(pinaka mk2 trials still going on?)

MGS trials next year ( Key features:crew and ammunition on board the system, shoot -and -scoot capability)
TGS trials to start next year.

"Hopeful Atags contract will be signed within this financial year. "

 

[aspdeepak]

View: https://youtu.be/Z2gSYZV9PAw?si=V-qCWbMILybslpNY
"We're not giving the complete order at one time for a particular type of gun...so that we can absorb better technology.. technology is fast changing.The aim is with every type of gun we can get the best technology available in market. "

Trials are going on for guided extended range with a range of 75km(pinaka mk2 trials still going on?)

MGS trials next year ( Key features:crew and ammunition on board the system, shoot -and -scoot capability)
TGS trials to start next year.

"Hopeful Atags contract will be signed within this financial year. "

Hopefully this general waits until his retirement to make a decision post retirement...

But then he tells the same lame excuse of the technology is changing so we will be evaluating...

Technology always evolves but what we have on our inventory matters.

We are far behind our rivals on our artillery inventory....

It's quite lame that we never learn from our mistakes...

Without significant orders our private sector cannot invest in R&D for artillery. We need a decent amount of order to Fuel their growth in a sustainable way. About 300 artillery won't be enough.

It's quite saddening that our babus are willing to import stuff in significant amount but not willing to support local producers...

 

[Pundit Pikachu]

technology is fast changing.

It's a fucking piece of artillery, the guns were the same 15 years ago and will remain the same 15 years later, WTF is he talking about.
"Technology is fast changing" that's why we will take a whole fucking decade just to do test and trials and still not order the fucking thing.

Trials are going on for guided extended range with a range of 75km

 

[ezsasa]

It's a fucking piece of artillery, the guns were the same 15 years ago and will remain the same 15 years later, WTF is he talking about.
"Technology is fast changing" that's why we will take a whole fucking decade just to do test and trials and still not order the fucking thing.



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indigenisation process of 155mm arty started only after 2011 with dhanush, with first gun produced in 2015. our clock starts in 2015.

Since 2015 the public and private together produced :

AWEIL
- Dhanush (induction in process )
- Dhanush MGS (Proposed)
- Sharang

KALYANI
- ATAGS
- Bharat ULH - 39
- Bharat 45
- Bharat 52
- MarG 155-BR (MGS)

TATA
- ATAGS
- MGS 155/52
- ALTGS (Proposed)

Mahindra
- M777 (assembly) (delivered)

L&T
- K9 Vajra (assembly with modifications) (delivered)

Orders given :
2016 - M777
2016 - K9 Vajra
2017 - Dhanush
2018 - Sharang

Upcoming orders
ATAGS 307

Upcoming trails
MGS

Upcoming RFI
TGS

since towed gun requirement is around 1800 guns, that's where most of the noise is. rest of orders are in 100's, have been a relatively smoother process so far.