Indian Navy Developments & Discussions

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Looks to be a very capable ship. Very likely to be the reason why NGMV are so gimped in their firepower by comparison.

What do you think are the possibilities of a repeat order of more NGMV ?

Current order is only 6 ships but there are ~12 Khurkri,Kora and Veer class corvette/missile boat in service with IN, across these classes also some ~8 boats were gifted or decommissioned, so peak missile boat strength of IN would be ~20 missile boats.

Perhaps we will see more when NASM-MR development is complete and inducted by IN? current bottleneck i think is the cost of missiles

 

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There seems to be 2x4=8 Per One side. I think you didn't count the other side which is hidden from this view. Those launchers seem to be too small for , maybe -NG? Or NASM-MR? ITCM?

Which ship design are you referring to? The NGC?

Just like how the NGMV went from 4x2 midship NASM-ER/KH-35 to 2x2 bow launcher based BrahMos, I expect the NGC to end up with BrahMos due to availability and logistics.

 

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What do you think are the possibilities of a repeat order of more NGMV ?

Current order is only 6 ships but there are ~12 Khurkri,Kora and Veer class corvette/missile boat in service with IN, across these classes also some ~8 boats were gifted or decommissioned, so peak missile boat strength of IN would be ~20 missile boats.

Perhaps we will see more when NASM-MR development is complete and inducted by IN? current bottleneck i think is the cost of missiles

By the way, has anyone yet figured out what's so "Next Generation" about these missile vessels?? I mean seriously, what am I missing here, folks??

 

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What do you think are the possibilities of a repeat order of more NGMV ?

Current order is only 6 ships but there are ~12 Khurkri,Kora and Veer class corvette/missile boat in service with IN, across these classes also some ~8 boats were gifted or decommissioned, so peak missile boat strength of IN would be ~20 missile boats.

Perhaps we will see more when NASM-MR development is complete and inducted by IN? current bottleneck i think is the cost of missiles

I don't see much chance of this happening.

• Growth of Naval Mission Plan

Indian Navy is moving towards a blue water navy similar to NATO and the PLAN with large numbers of Destroyers and Frigates to escort CBG and for theatre defense.

The Khukri, Kora and Veer class were part of Anti-Access/Area-Denial strategies from the 1980s-90s when our frigates were still being built in Russia. These were also entirely Pakistan specific.

From the below excerpt we can see that the Indian Navy in the 1980s had focused on missile corvettes to maintain fleet numbers. Now this seems inadequate given that we have been de-hyphenated from Pakistan and integrated with Indo-Pacific.

These vessels were originally conceived as a class of 12 units, being divided into three sub-classes of anti-air, anti-submarine and anti-surface warfare platforms. However due to budgetary constraints and extensive delays in construction & weapons supplies, the number has been revised downwards.

https://www.bharat-rakshak.com/navy/equipment/specs/project-25a/

• Shipyard Productivity and Fleet Inductions

The below table with approximations for ship commissioning shows that in the years 2033-2034, there may be no significant warship inductions (excluding submarines).

Commissioning Year/Ship Class	Ship Type	2024	2025	2026	2027	2028	2029	2030	2031	2032	2033	2034	2035	2036	2037	2038	2039	2040
Vishakhapatnam Class	Destroyer		1
Talwar Class (Batch III)	Frigate	1	1	1	1
Nilgiri Class	Frigate		2	2	2	1
P 17B Class	Frigate							2	3	2
NGMV	Corvette				1	2	2	1
NGC	Corvette						1	2	3	2
NGOPV	OPV					1	2	2	3	3
P 18A/B	Destroyer												1	2	2	3	2
Total	(-)	1	4	3	4	3	3	5	6	4	0	0	1	2	2	3	2	0

MDL and GRSE will be busy with P 17B and P 18A/B which leaves only CSL and GSL. CSL will most likely be busy with IAC-II which leaves only GSL and Pipavav Shipyard.

GSL is learning the ropes regarding Frigate construction from Talwar (Batch III). Another possibility of a Talwar Class follow on NGF (Next Generation Frigate) like the Japanese Mogami Class will occupy it's production capacity.

As for Pipavav, the less said the better.

 

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As for Pipavav, the less said the better.

I think missile boats in good numbers still have a role to play but then Navy knows best on how to spend their funding, especially since the funding bottleneck is the "missile" not the boat.

Pipavav meanwhile is idle for past 5-6 years, only recently a textile company called Swan Energy managed to buy it last year since chota Ambani went bankrupt.

So I don't think they were in the picture, the Private Sector Shipyard role has been taken over by L&T Katupalli, they are building "Multi Purpose Vessels", OPVs and Coast Guard ships last i checked, they may build Corvettes in the future also if Navy is impressed.

Anyway it's good Navy placing large orders now and distributed between two shipyards, so from this we get

Destroyers/Cruisers, Frigates, Corvettes :- MDL, GRSE
Corvettes, Frigates only :- GSL
Corvettes only :- CSL, L&T Katupalli possible.
Replenishment Ship, LHD/LPD :- HSL, L&T Katupalli
Carrier :- CSL
Conventional Submarines :- MDL, but maybe L&T Katupalli is possible also.

 

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Another promo video for INS Nilgiri, with some extra seconds of footage showing it being built and also opening of VLS cells and the sailors loading shells for the 76mm gun


View: https://x.com/IN_WNC/status/1878691277816107350