Indian Politics and Democracy

[crazywithmath]

I argue they don't need any legal cover as long as they're permitted to stay here with the SC guaranteeing it & providing them access to everything a citizen is entitled to beginning with shelter, fooding, medicine , education now followed one fine day with work.

This is precisely why I wrote that the gormintwallahs will fight it tooth and nail. Having failed to secure a direct path to legalized refugee claims, Gonsalves and co are resorting to more roundabout tactics.

It's called creeping incrementalism. I mean that much should've been obvious by now . It's an old tactic by this cabal containing Gonsalves & his tribe

Agreed.

How many were deported?

Not sure, mate. Deportation nos are rarely announced/produced in public. But the thing is that, we are surrounded by a bunch of failed banana republics who survive from one shitshow to another - they do not even have the state capacity to cross verify and take their citizens back even if they want to and hence, we are just stuck in this strange equilibrium where catching and putting these illegals on the detention camps/closely guarded makeshift shanties is the only way to proceed.

For the last so many years we've been given the figure of 30-40,000. They've spread across the country now with safe havens wherever Bengali aka BD Muslims are settled.

Why, I recall seeing a mini documentary by those many loony left channels proliferating YT ( it was sQuint IIRC) which highlighted the case of a Rohingya girl who passed her SSC examination in Chennai of all places where her family settled in around 2010 with her abbu working as an automobile mechanic having come to India somewhere in the early 2000s.

Don't think this Rohingya thingy started in the early 2000s though. They might have settled here legally - because the UPA govt was issuing residential visas for these rohingyas and kanglus left, right and centre. Heck, they even started handing temporary visas to the rohingya illegals who had UNHCR issued identity cards despite India not being a signatory to the UN refugee charter.

 

[narasimh]

I can't help but wonder when I see a Sikh wether they are acting in good faith

After living in Canada that's just how I see them

Remove the tinted glasses is my suggestion.. khalistanis have successfully created the hate they wanted..sikhs are not a monolith hence such stereotypical prejudice is detrimental.. the issue exists hence the chief spoke about it..HAL should stop over committing and under delivery

 

[maximus777]

Indian agencies need to start prosecuting these fuckers for election interference.

 

[Spacemarine]

Remove the tinted glasses is my suggestion.. khalistanis have successfully created the hate they wanted..sikhs are not a monolith hence such stereotypical prejudice is detrimental.. the issue exists hence the chief spoke about it..HAL should stop over committing and under delivery

there is not a sikh in India who will condemn Hindu genocide in panjab, not a single one will even acknowledge the killing of 40000 Panjabi Hindu and 400K refugees who fled to rest of India, most of them were neighbours and their sikh neighbors only targeted them through sikh terrorists to capture their lands, I am not talking about few exceptions I am talking about general sikh population.

So yes in a way he is right difficult to trust one, also do you know majority of chandigarh cabal is filled with them who bluntly reject Indian local industry and has their families abroad who’s speciality is being middlemen ..

Not blaming the sikhs who understand their roots but now their own religious institutions are full on anti Hindu so trust only if verified

 

[Azaad]

This is precisely why I wrote that the gormintwallahs will fight it tooth and nail. Having failed to secure a direct path to legalized refugee claims, Gonsalves and co are resorting to more roundabout tactics.

I'm afraid you're not getting my larger point which is status quo prevails . The plight of the Rohingyas may well be in legal limbo but they are in here in India .

All these incremental moves seem designed to keep them here through constant litigation which keeps the issue alive , ensures their stay here , keeps the pot simmering till such time as a favourable party to the petitioners presides over such matters.

Agreed.

Not sure, mate. Deportation nos are rarely announced/produced in public. But the thing is that, we are surrounded by a bunch of failed banana republics who survive from one shitshow to another - they do not even have the state capacity to cross verify and take their citizens back even if they want to and hence, we are just stuck in this strange equilibrium where catching and putting these illegals on the detention camps/closely guarded makeshift shanties is the only way to proceed.

Yes & logically the BJP should be tom tomming every such deportation drive which they aren't for the numbers are abysmally small . Moreover as we've seen in the past with BD illegal migrants , imprisonment & deportation is hardly an deterrent to them returning for the means to do so & ways to be let in clearly exist & are thriving .

This again harks back to our discussion on M TFR in India & how illegal immigration along with Lawfare ensuring that once they come in , they stay in , acts as force multipliers to their TFR in spite of this administration being severely opposed to their presence here .

Don't think this Rohingya thingy started in the early 2000s though. They might have settled here legally - because the UPA govt was issuing residential visas for these rohingyas and kanglus left, right and centre. Heck, they even started handing temporary visas to the rohingya illegals who had UNHCR issued identity cards despite India not being a signatory to the UN refugee charter.

Rohingyas have been at the receiving end since the independence of Myanmar even if the present round of pogroms can be dated to the 2010s.

Besides the UPA , the communists & the TMCs abetment to their infiltration & legal cover has also been well documented down the years across regions from the NE to WB to the rest of the country.

 

[Azaad]

USAID Interfered in Indian elections of 2019.

Meet Mike Benz, former US diplomat who says he has proof of USAID 'interference' in India and Bangladesh | World News - The Times of India

US News: Mike Benz, a former US diplomat, claims to have evidence that USAID and US-backed organizations have interfered in the domestic politics of India and Bangladesh, alleging manipulation of elections and destabilization tactics aligned with US strategic interests. His revelations provide...

timesofindia.indiatimes.com

If the GoI were really serious they would have thrown out USAID purely on the basis of what's happening today in the US citing the very reasons the Trump administration is giving for shutting them down for long term the USAID will not be shut down merely heavily regulated with Trump taking maximalist positions only to get even with the establishment knowing full well he'd have to compromise with them which means USAID resumes operations (as it's intrinsic to US foreign policy aims) at some point in time , pending stricter legislation about their role , scope of work & more importantly accountability .

 

[SKC]

there is not a sikh in India who will condemn Hindu genocide in panjab, not a single one will even acknowledge the killing of 40000 Panjabi Hindu and 400K refugees who fled to rest of India, most of them were neighbours and their sikh neighbors only targeted them through sikh terrorists to capture their lands, I am not talking about few exceptions I am talking about general sikh population.

So yes in a way he is right difficult to trust one, also do you know majority of chandigarh cabal is filled with them who bluntly reject Indian local industry and has their families abroad who’s speciality is being middlemen ..

Not blaming the sikhs who understand their roots but now their own religious institutions are full on anti Hindu so trust only if verified

Keep the discussion strictly to the LCA program!

Take any other discussion to chitchat thread.

 

[ezsasa]

If the GoI were really serious they would have thrown out USAID purely on the basis of what's happening today in the US citing the very reasons the Trump administration is giving for shutting them down for long term the USAID will not be shut down merely heavily regulated with Trump taking maximalist positions only to get even with the establishment knowing full well he'd have to compromise with them which means USAID resumes operations (as it's intrinsic to US foreign policy aims) at some point in time , pending stricter legislation about their role , scope of work & more importantly accountability .

this is another layer of globalism that has not been focussed on before, so far discourse has largely been on ideologies and electoral side of global politics. this is govt bureaucracies across continents co-ordinating with each other, and playing favourites. needs a bit more study ?

 

[truthsoldier]

Ensure no discrimination in education ': SC seeks residential details of Rohingya refugees for school admissions

In response to a PIL seeking govt benefits and school admissions for Rohingya refugees, the SC said education shall be provided to all children without discrimination. | OpIndia News

www.opindia.com

View: https://x.com/iMac_too/status/1889907822521098319?t=TIAHhinF5OPhuH12TjDHSA&s=19

 

[Azaad]

View: https://x.com/iMac_too/status/1889907822521098319?t=TIAHhinF5OPhuH12TjDHSA&s=19

Please acquaint yourself with something known as the Constitution of India . That'd enable you to quote from better sources & not some random clipping somewhere which gets appended in a tweet to mfg false & deliberate outrage.

Legally speaking, this circular is not sustainable in accordance with the Constitution of India. The AAP government in Delhi may need a reminder that the right to education as a fundamental right is not just guaranteed to all citizens of India but to every single person within the territory of India.

Therefore, even if someone is admittedly an ‘illegal migrant’ by the definitions of the Foreigners Act, 1946, as long as they are in India, they are entitled to education between the ages of 6 and 14 as a matter of right. No circular of a state government may take such a right away.

A Rohingya education for the race to the bottom in Indian politics

ON December 25, 2025, the Chief Minister of Delhi, Atishi Marlena, had a special message for the migrant children, particularly Rohingya children living in

theleaflet.in

Also this is how the entire thing blew up

SC to hear on Feb 10 plea seeking access to public schools and hospitals to Rohingya refugees

The Supreme Court will hear an NGO's plea urging the Centre and Delhi government to grant Rohingya refugees access to public schools and hospitals. The NGO argues that the refugees, lacking Aadhaar cards, are being denied these services despite having UNHCR cards. The court has requested details...

m.economictimes.com

The party which filed the petition in the SC was this organisation

NGO ROHINGYA HUMAN RIGHTS INITIATIVE

Here's a bit on their background

Google Search

& Their funding sources

The global ecosystem funding the PIL filed in SC on behalf of illegal Rohingyas by Colin Gonsalves

Supreme Court heard a plea for Rohingya illegals access to schools, free healthcare, subsidised food. The plea is filed by Colin Gonsalves on behalf of NGO

hindupost.in

 

[DingDong]

View: https://x.com/iMac_too/status/1889907822521098319?t=TIAHhinF5OPhuH12TjDHSA&s=19

Now wait for the fanboy arguments detailing how this one is a "mega masterstroke" by the Modi government. As far as RTE is concerned, it has been opened to interpretation due to the use of vague language (legislative omission), but then it could be narrowly interpreted at the convenience of the government or the court to restrict it's scope to the citizens of India.

 

[Azaad]

Now wait for the fanboy arguments detailing how this one is a "mega masterstroke" by the Modi government. As far as RTE is concerned, it has been opened to interpretation due to the use of vague language (legislative omission), but then it could be narrowly interpreted at the convenience of the government or the court to restrict it's scope to the citizens of India.

What you're suggesting cannot be done under the ambit of the present law as its scope has already been defined by the SC.

Any changes would have to be brought about thru an amendment to the said act which is easier said than done for even then it would still be up for judicial scrutiny.

If the courts decide otherwise the government of the day would have to then go back to amending the act with a 2/3rds majority if it can which is not sure shot with this particular government given the numbers game. In which case why make it a hill to die on would be the political logic.

At the same time the GoI can't defy the courts by stating it's not going to comply with the court's orders in these matters. That amounts to contempt .

 

[DingDong]

What you're suggesting cannot be done under the ambit of the present law as its scope has already been defined by the SC.

Any changes would have to be brought about thru an amendment to the said act which is easier said than done for even then it would still be up for judicial scrutiny.

If the courts decide otherwise the government of the day would have to then go back to amending the act with a 2/3rds majority if it can which is not sure shot with this particular government given the numbers game. In which case why make it a hill to die on would be the political logic.

At the same time the GoI can't defy the courts by stating it's not going to comply with the court's orders in these matters. That amounts to contempt .

Court orders have been bent/defied in the past.
At the least, the government could have taken a defiant stand in front of the SC on an issue which might be electorally beneficial for the government. But then, the general election is not happening anytime soon.

Truth to be told, BJP is going to milk the Rohingya issue to it's limits.

 

[crazywithmath]

Court orders have been bent/defied in the past.
At the least, the government could have taken a defiant stand in front of the SC on an issue which might be electorally beneficial for the government. But then, the general election is not happening anytime soon.

Bruh, at least make it make sense.

 

[Prasad]

Everything must go my away or else..

Anyone dealing in absolutes is either not on your side or is stupid.

 

[trombone]

What you're suggesting cannot be done under the ambit of the present law as its scope has already been defined by the SC.

Any changes would have to be brought about thru an amendment to the said act which is easier said than done for even then it would still be up for judicial scrutiny.

If the courts decide otherwise the government of the day would have to then go back to amending the act with a 2/3rds majority if it can which is not sure shot with this particular government given the numbers game. In which case why make it a hill to die on would be the political logic.

At the same time the GoI can't defy the courts by stating it's not going to comply with the court's orders in these matters. That amounts to contempt .

even the 2/3rds route will become passe soon, considering the mega-lards keeping adding stuff to the BS bucket randomly. so even if 100% legislature wants something and the big-lards decide it is against the BS bullshit, then no deuce. this unbridled power is what needs to be neutered.