Indian Politics and Democracy

bakofbakchod said:
And India's bureaucracy is completely compromised too. This could have been an ideal time to purge these vermin but coward modi probably does not even know this is happening as he is surrounded by yes men and is content with getting praised.


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When bureaucracy and all institution are compromised to such level ,how can one even think of that leader ji going to purge them. No wonder the results are all the same.
Leader ji should also grow some awareness and have some leader who are connected to ground .
TBH it also tells why leader ji behaves the way he does.

Only Mao style purge will solve these things.
 
bakofbakchod said:

View: https://twitter.com/akki_bauer22_/status/1817414071605743779

Indian babu/bureaucracy needs mass exterm!nation. It is completely broken right now, and with ever increasing urban population, it is not surprising our cities are getting worse or stagnating at best.
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Nothing will change until we get a leader with real grit and determination.

In a week, everyone will forget the incident. No one's held accountable.

The whole system is rotten to the core. How else could a bunch of invaders rule over millions of us for a thousand years.

Government officials are the "sarkari saand," 99% of them. Reminds me of a DFI member working in the MoD, lurking around all day, posting stuff during work hours. A few preach high morals but never follow them.

Greed runs the show, from the smallest government office to the top.
 
If people are not happy with Modiji's governance then whom are they going to vote in the next elections? Rahul baba, mamata, kejriwal, cpim, Owaisi, udayanidhi stalin.....?
 
altruistRor said:
Nothing will change until we get a leader with real grit and determination.

In a week, everyone will forget the incident. No one's held accountable.

The whole system is rotten to the core. How else could a bunch of invaders rule over millions of us for a thousand years.

Government officials are the "sarkari saand," 99% of them. Reminds me of a DFI member working in the MoD, lurking around all day, posting stuff during work hours. A few preach high morals but never follow them.

Greed runs the show, from the smallest government office to the top.
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Nothing will change until people themselves stop illegal construction and later paying the bribe.

Safety standards during house or building construction is ZERO in India.

Fire protection system in society and homes are not there.

Maintenance of water distribution system and bacteria control not present.

Emergency exits not considered.

Protective Earthing at homes doesn't work, I don't know how many know what earthing is and how important it is.

If you inspect that coaching center it will fail most of the safety standard and the roads around Karol Bagh, well the less I speak the better it is.
 
Abhijeet said:
If people are not happy with Modiji's governance then whom are they going to vote in the next elections? Rahul baba, mamata, kejriwal, cpim, Owaisi, udayanidhi stalin.....?
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His governance is definitely way better since the independence. But the system we have is detrimental to our aspirations and it isn’t his fault but dhindus themself.
One thing is for sure they don’t use iron hand of state. See the theatrization and modernisation efforts ,how generals keep putting stopper still not single one was punished,fired.

Why doesn’t GOI make national security documents .does anyone have answer.
 
Abhijeet said:
If people are not happy with Modiji's governance then whom are they going to vote in the next elections? Rahul baba, mamata, kejriwal, cpim, Owaisi, udayanidhi stalin.....?
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Haan bhai yeh bhi humari galti hai..

We don't have any good options left. It's not about choosing the best anymore, it's about picking the least bad.

He couldn't push through his key policies CAA, NRC, and farm laws even with a strong majority. The census has been delayed by 4 years, blaming COVID, when it was actually the best time to do it since everyone was locked at home.

The problem lies with us—we expected too much from Modi.
 
Suga said:
His governance is definitely way better since the independence. But the system we have is detrimental to our aspirations and it isn’t his fault but dhindus themself.
One thing is for sure they don’t use iron hand of state. See the theatrization and modernisation efforts ,how generals keep putting stopper still not single one was punished,fired.

Why doesn’t GOI make national security documents .does anyone have answer.
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That's the point. You were given a clear majority to implement all the necessary policies without hesitation, fearlessly. Failing to do so makes you no better than your counterparts.

For decades, there was no complete majority. He had the chance. People had blind faith in him. No other leader's followers are ever called "Bhakts." Such was his stardom and stature.

This huge image was supposed to shake up the system. I'm not saying he didn't make improvements, but these changes aren't sustainable. They'll fade away within a year or two once he's gone.

His majority was meant to clear the mess. For two terms, he was the king of this country. He had the absolute power to bypass anything in any sector, department, or arena he wished.

If your followers are called "Bhakts," you become a god. You need to act like a god in terms of work, not ego.
 
Screambowl said:
Nothing will change until people themselves stop illegal construction and later paying the bribe.

Safety standards during house or building construction is ZERO in India.

Fire protection system in society and homes are not there.

Maintenance of water distribution system and bacteria control not present.

Emergency exits not considered.

Protective Earthing at homes doesn't work, I don't know how many know what earthing is and how important it is.

If you inspect that coaching center it will fail most of the safety standard and the roads around Karol Bagh, well the less I speak the better it is.
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All that is fine, but ultimately bureaucracy and police judicial systems exist for a reason. It is their sole responsibilities to ensure encroachment does not happen and strict action is taken, but instead they fully encourage this system getting bribes along the way
 
bakofbakchod said:

View: https://twitter.com/akki_bauer22_/status/1817414071605743779

Indian babu/bureaucracy needs mass exterm!nation. It is completely broken right now, and with ever increasing urban population, it is not surprising our cities are getting worse or stagnating at best.
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Govt employees know the laws, courts and govt can do nothing to them.
They are very protected and in case of govt employees who are SC/ST, the protection is absolute.

For India to even dream of becoming a second world (forget first world for now), the whole needs to be revamped.
1. promotions need to be based on performance
2. Any incidents like above where the permissions were either given or overlooked, should cost them their jobs.
3. Any approval given by any govt employee, which over-looked the standards, should result in immediate sacking and criminal action

This was not a result of politicians being politicians.
This is a result of us Indians being ready to accept corruption as a norm and only make a hue and cry when it affects us or for few days whenever tragedies like these happen. the hue and cry pretty much symbolic, a cry to make ourselves feel better with zero impact on preventing these tragedies.
There is ZERO culture in India where as common citizen we are ready to fight corruption and fight the cases to the end.

The NGO's are completely compromised and are only interested in what sells.
The politicians don't care simply because the people themselves don't care.
The courts have zero time, especially now a days where they have become courts for select few politicians and hear only their cases.
the employees themselves benefit from the system which enables them to make humongous amounts of money.

The question then is, who exactly has the skin in the game to fight the corrupt bureaucracy?
Short answer - no one

hence why India will always remain a third world country, even with current economic growth.
 
altruistRor said:
That's the point. You were given a clear majority to implement all the necessary policies without hesitation, fearlessly. Failing to do so makes you no better than your counterparts.

For decades, there was no complete majority. He had the chance. People had blind faith in him. No other leader's followers are ever called "Bhakts." Such was his stardom and stature.

This huge image was supposed to shake up the system. I'm not saying he didn't make improvements, but these changes aren't sustainable. They'll fade away within a year or two once he's gone.

His majority was meant to clear the mess. For two terms, he was the king of this country. He had the absolute power to bypass anything in any sector, department, or arena he wished.

If your followers are called "Bhakts," you become a god. You need to act like a god in terms of work, not ego.
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Just becoz u think like that it doesn’t make it easier. Or easier said than done. In today time people are unable to control their child ,controlling country like ours where apart from huge domestic issue ,foreign interference is also there the way like you said is nothing but wishful thinking.
It did passed CAA albeit late even after huge violence by peacfuls after that peacfuls have turned tactical.
Farm laws well IMO GOI should cracked down ruthlessly like deng of China but may be there are lot of facts and “happenings” we don’t know .
We also seems to overestimate our institutions capability ,may they are not that much capable especially when whole nation is one chaotic mess as well due to corruption and political moles.

Ultimately it is dhindu themself who are responsible. As a society they first need to come together and seriously think about what’s wrong with them.
 
bakofbakchod said:
All that is fine, but ultimately bureaucracy and police judicial systems exist for a reason. It is their sole responsibilities to ensure encroachment does not happen and strict action is taken, but instead they fully encourage this system getting bribes along the way
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All exist to make money for themself and entitlements not to do work. Colonial system is tree which keep giving fruit for Britain not us.
 
Suga said:
His governance is definitely way better since the independence. But the system we have is detrimental to our aspirations and it isn’t his fault but dhindus themself.
One thing is for sure they don’t use iron hand of state. See the theatrization and modernisation efforts ,how generals keep putting stopper still not single one was punished,fired.

Why doesn’t GOI make national security documents .does anyone have answer.
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state does use iron hand, their application over a period of time got dictated by various court verdicts since emergency. some imagination is required to navigate the landmines these precedents have laid out. ongoing kejri case is an example, if one reads court proceedings this will be evident. we are such a young country that, we don't know what is supposed to happen when a CM refuses to resign after being taken into judicial custody.

this got dictated over a period of time by court verdicts, is because after emergency apart from a brief period of rajiv's tenure, there was electoral instability in the country, with coalition govts who kept falling apart. because the country had to function, new power centres emerged i.e bureaucracy and judiciary.

on theaterisation and modernisation, if we read the discourse thru the prism of journalists/news media, this too like everything else will look like chaos and failure. journalism has become unreliable now. we either have to rely on academia who deal with this topic, or we have to do our own analysis.

last one is about national security strategy document?
 
ezsasa said:
on theaterisation and modernisation, if we read the discourse thru the prism of journalists/news media, this too like everything else will look like chaos and failure. journalism has become unreliable now. we either have to rely on academia who deal with this topic, or we have to do our own analysis.

last one is about national security strategy document?
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While as a whole we are young country not to mention being mentality colonised still but we are also old civilisation and have good amount of literature(I guess).
On theatrization ,it is simply time being taken for even small events plus military leadership doesn’t having any clue how to go about it.
We have generals who goes to active site with their medals and rank.

Yes national security strategy documents.
 
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