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this is nothing new, people have personal reasons.
Back in 1945 when Berlin fell to red army some 5000 jews were there, mostly survived because they were married to high ranking Germans in military and Nazi party.
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Caste census: Pasmanda Muslims may be counted as OBCs
PM Modi has spoken of uplift of the category seen as backward and estimated to comprise more than 70% of Muslims; BJP OBC and Minority front leaders confirm move
indianexpress.com
"vinaash kaale viprit buddhi"
fall of mudi and BJP has started.
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What is BJP thinking? If they do it surely a united Hindu party should be formed.Caste census: Pasmanda Muslims may be counted as OBCs
PM Modi has spoken of uplift of the category seen as backward and estimated to comprise more than 70% of Muslims; BJP OBC and Minority front leaders confirm move
"vinaash kaale viprit buddhi"
fall of mudi and BJP has started.
Thats why i have some sympathies with Eknath Shinde led Shiv Sena. I hope they double down on their Hindu plank more and become more firm on it. So, that its defined by Hinduism alone, and not clans or dynasties.
We will need a proper Hindu party.
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A Hindu party is now the call of the hour. One that operates on Hindu exceptionalism and Hindu exclusivity.
From old DFI days , I see a subtle change in peoples thinking about mudi ji being "hindu hriday samrat". Be it taxations / economy / JNU bred or woke / feminist ministers, the media managament can take you this far only.
good, I am glad people are going off their sleep and realising the writting on wall. It is not that other party is good but atleast we know they are "Woff in wolf" clothes but mudi ji is "wolf in sheeps" clothes which make him more dangerous.
sadly, we have to pick the "best" of the "worst" here with no options. How i wish we have a party exclusively working for "hindu" cause .
my only worry is next gen 's are more woke and feinist than current crop ....
good, I am glad people are going off their sleep and realising the writting on wall. It is not that other party is good but atleast we know they are "Woff in wolf" clothes but mudi ji is "wolf in sheeps" clothes which make him more dangerous.
sadly, we have to pick the "best" of the "worst" here with no options. How i wish we have a party exclusively working for "hindu" cause .
my only worry is next gen 's are more woke and feinist than current crop ....
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Aren't our current generation already full woke? Quite contrary the new generations are less politically correct. The older generations have voted for Congress and its adjacent parties without batting an eyelid.
We need to tell the new generation about the two pronged threat: 1. High Fertility Rate of the Pigs, 2. Massive infiltration by the pigs. They are accelerating their number game. I believe they have given up on the prospects of the garrison states defeating the Indian state. Thats why these parties are clamoring for military response so that under the garb of human rights they can increase their numbers as well as by rioting kill some of us. Thus marginally they will gain two fold advantage: early killing of us Hindus and their import of external greens.
Well its my conspiracy theory. I just hope govt. is well prepared to tackle the internal rioting. I am sure non-BJP states will use the riots as cover to decrease us Hindus numbers.
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All these hippies who do, want to see Yogi as the PM because he breaks Mullah houses 24*7. That makes him Hindu Hriday Samrat
The fringe of Hinduism are no different than Mullahs minus the balls.
They lack in long-term strategic thinking.
They never picked a datasheet on economy but the biggest one to be worried about it. Still driven by socialist mindset of Congress.
Some where if you try to wake the wokesss, you will be labelled racist and kicked out ...
recent example is that wife of Navy guy who was killed in her lap but she still thinks it has nothing to do with Islam and kashmiriyat..
I was part of few groups and people were planning to go to pahalgaon in hordes as kashmir belongs to us
How do one tell you cannot change the blood of hatred flowing thru every islamist and kahsmiri .. having lived for 4 years ... all i could say was that PLs ensure to have a 2 crores term insurance minimum and make me nominee....Atleast i cud get rich off their wokeness...
If this do not woke u up.. nothing will... Mudi ji will only say some thing fav ti hidu cause when it is election rally else his actions r grossly opposite of what he says there ...
I am sure #masterstroke waadi will be searching AI chat bots for positives of recent actions to justify him but alas ...
he is contradicting himself ...one hand saying pvt reservation will destroy economy and in same post talking of lalu winning 15 years.. goes on to show that people are only worried about their own gratification... economy at large is not even in their mind else we wud not have see the 8yj fail puppies of lalu being netas today..still talking of social justice ....
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Hey Ram! What the hell is happening? So will we see communal quotas also?Caste census: Pasmanda Muslims may be counted as OBCs
PM Modi has spoken of uplift of the category seen as backward and estimated to comprise more than 70% of Muslims; BJP OBC and Minority front leaders confirm move
"vinaash kaale viprit buddhi"
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as an outcome , how is your expectation any different than what gora countries, global libtards, congis , family run political parties, commies , islamists , chini want?
you along with them seem to want the same outcome, i.e teach modi a lesson.
Not really. Modi is best of the worst at the moment and i said that... thats the unfortunate part as we have no viable option...considering rest all are fully exposed ..
So he is stil best bet but yes.. he is loosing his blind followers out to justify everything as #masterstroke.
Just proving that he is like any other politicians after all .. nothing else
we are not one to teach him a lesson .. perhaps he won,t know we exist ..but it hurts when i listen to his certain speeches as CM of Gujarat round his than views on reservation , porkistan , nationalism et all...
Had no one read the article also there is a "may" word.
All these hippies who do, want to see Yogi as the PM because he breaks Mullah houses 24*7. That makes him Hindu Hriday Samrat
The fringe of Hinduism are no different than Mullahs minus the balls.
They lack in long-term strategic thinking.
They never picked a datasheet on economy but the biggest one to be worried about it. Still driven by socialist mindset of Congress.
my onion is that yogi will never reach PM chair if he is man of principles ...
biggest is that he do not get along with RSS and he is a self made man ...so will not listen per se to masters in powers corridors...
The guy that got Ram mandir and removed 370 is best of the worst.
Wonder what even average one would look like.
In a country where a lot of hindus vote for others, this guy not only won elections and then delivered on the promises.
Regarding pasmada's OBC, there are many here who are pretending as if this is something new Modi is doing.
Pasmada muslim reservation has been happening in India since 1990's.
Of the OBC quota, nearly 10% of it has been exclusive for a while now under state OBC as well as Central OBC
The fraud though is that most Congress states include 90% muslims under pasmada and pave way for them as OBC's and get under this list.
What BJP is doing is playing the same game congress has been playing where they want to divide Hindus on castes. Now BJP is doing the same for muslims.
They will do the census and split muslims into pasmadas and others. Imagine if instead of 90% of muslims being eligible, it is reduced to 30%. That's the divide BJP will introduce.
Sorry but people who are jumping as if BJP is going to give reservations to Muslims are living in lala land or straight up lying.
These muslims are already getting reservations under OBC list, happening for decades now.
It's absolutely shocking that this forum with many knowledgeable members let few lie through their teeth so a to abuse the party they hate.
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Membrans are illusioned if they think reservation in the private sector is not possible. It may happen without much protest from the Private Enterprises.
A subtle contrast to the situation we had in 2004-2009 is that most people have bank accounts. And unlike those times, private sectors now credit salaries even for the lowest positions in their bank account. Means the org controlled.
Private reservation will not touch the white collar and highly skilled workforce. Rather it will target the low skilled workers, which would be roughly comprising 80% of the private sector. Can be anything, from Ola drivers, to the company contracted labourers, to the Zomato Amazon delivery boys, retail cashiers, hotel room assistant, theatre attendant and what not.
All these jobs are now registered ones, directly controlled by the companies unlike the older time when thekedars used to control them; and do not need very high skill. Companies won't have much problem to enforce the reservation in such roles.
Not an impossible thing to bring in the reservation in the private sector— without any big economic crisis.
A subtle contrast to the situation we had in 2004-2009 is that most people have bank accounts. And unlike those times, private sectors now credit salaries even for the lowest positions in their bank account. Means the org controlled.
Private reservation will not touch the white collar and highly skilled workforce. Rather it will target the low skilled workers, which would be roughly comprising 80% of the private sector. Can be anything, from Ola drivers, to the company contracted labourers, to the Zomato Amazon delivery boys, retail cashiers, hotel room assistant, theatre attendant and what not.
All these jobs are now registered ones, directly controlled by the companies unlike the older time when thekedars used to control them; and do not need very high skill. Companies won't have much problem to enforce the reservation in such roles.
Not an impossible thing to bring in the reservation in the private sector— without any big economic crisis.
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in my view this line of thinking is political immaturity, lacking the foresight to adapt to circumstances.
who are these blind followers?
people who were 10 in 2014, are 21 years of age now.
people who were 20 in 2014, are 31 years of age now.
people who were 30 in 2014, are 41 years of age now.
people who were 40 in 2014, are 51 years of age now.
and so on.
modi became CM of gujarat at the age of 51, PM at 63 years of age in 2014, he is 74 now.
their own lives and personal priorities have changed since 2002 and 2014, but a politician whose primary job is to get reelected should still be applying messaging, tactics, plans of 2002, 2014 in 2025?
and worse, pretending as if nothing has changed in the country since 2014.
there are only three types of govt templates in this country in past 75 years:
- nehruvian/congi template
- VP singh/chandra sekhar type coalition template
- NDA//BJP/Modi template
it would be wise to spend time and arrive at a firm conclusion of which templates you absolutely do not want to live in for remainder of your life. it would be tough to explain, if one had not lived during those years.
modi or yogi or rahul or any other politician as PM, is secondary to the above fundamental point. all PM's act as per the situations they are presented in front of them within their ideological/political/personal limitations.
stupidest thing one can do is, giving more power to narratives that will lead to govt template you do not want to live under.
we live in land of karma, all actions big and small have consequences.
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The UPA govt tried this approach. Did not succeed. If it did not happen back then - when the Indian economy/private sector was much smaller and had less lobbying power; it will not happen now.
Ya'll need to calm down a bit. Even the congressis are not talking about private sector reservations.
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