Indian Small Arms and Weapons

[username unkown]

For people really acquaintant with firearms, this line of yours can be truly nightmarish

Safety

 

[ezsasa]

INSAS LMG, no frequent sightings these days?
NEGEV it is.

 

[VictorDelta4]

INSAS LMG, no frequent sightings these days?
NEGEV it is.

I don't see the Insas LMG being written off anytime soon. Wasn't there a recent upgrade announced?

 

[VictorDelta4]

More images from the Ukrainian frontlines with bright yellow 155mm shells coming soon I guess

 

[Ayan Barat]

More images from the Ukrainian frontlines with bright yellow 155mm shells coming soon I guess
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Afternoon poor @ezsasa was crying on how come people post 84mm in Small Arms thread
And now you come with 155mm
Wth Mate

 

[username unkown]

I don't see the Insas LMG being written off anytime soon. Wasn't there a recent upgrade announced?

Still negev are seen more and more which is good thing

 

[vampyrbladez]

OFB FN MAG modified with a 'crutch' stock.

 

[Ayan Barat]

OFB FN MAG modified with a 'crutch' stock.

 

[Anants]

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I always wondered why hydralics based gas pistons are not used in gun butt for recoil management?

 

[Ayan Barat]

I always wondered why hydralics based gas pistons are not used in gun butt for recoil management?

It's not like they're not used, but rather used in a very limited number. As for why, I've talked about it earlier

interestingly a hydraulic buffer is considered a downgrade because definitely it reduces recoil slightly better but hydraulic fluids tend to change their viscosity according to temperatures, so firing rate also changes as you go from Arizona to Alaska

In short, hydraulic-gas piston provides a marginal improvement in recoil reduction compared to a spring but the associated hassle is too much.

 

[VictorDelta4]

OFB FN MAG modified with a 'crutch' stock.

Also I HATE that sniper rifle furniture!

 

[Anants]

It's not like they're not used, but rather used in a very limited number. As for why, I've talked about it earlier

In short, hydraulic-gas piston provides a marginal improvement in recoil reduction compared to a spring but the associated hassle is too much.

so how do artillery guys manage as artillery have gas struts to manage recoil? Esp when our army has these series of tests where they will do tests in cold higher regions and then fly it off to hot rajasthan for trials?

 

[Ayan Barat]

so how do artillery guys manage as artillery have gas struts to manage recoil? Esp when our army has these series of tests where they will do tests in cold higher regions and then fly it off to hot rajasthan for trials?

Now you're saying something that deserves a 155mm HE at your position

Let's assume the temperature gradient causes a 20% decrease in rate of fire
> For a 155mm howitzer, whose absolute maximum rate of fire is 8 would now fire at 6.4 rounds per minute
> For a 7.62x51mm MG with a RPM of 700 this would mean 560

Which one do you think would be more "noticeable"?

Also as you're not constraints by dimensions and weights on a 4 ton howitzer as compared to a 4kg MG...you can have all kind of valves and gauges and accumulators to fine tune the hydraulics for each terrain.

 

[VictorDelta4]

deserves a 155mm HE at your position

 

[Mr.Evil]

INSAS LMG, no frequent sightings these days?
NEGEV it is.

We procured only 16k, in that too there is a divide in NG7&NG5 and iam not seeing any more purchases of LMG I think INSAS LMG is going to have a long run here

 

[Mr.Evil]

Upgraded AK-103 in Burkina Faso
AK-103 en 7.62x39 con:
-EOTech EXPS3 sobre rail Unity Riser-
Magnificador EOTech G44-
Rail SAG AK MK3 Freefloat Chasis-
Laser SOT Aspid-
Culata Magpul Zhukov-S

Spoiler: Spoiler

MARCOs AK 103

 

[Baseplate]

I always wondered why hydralics based gas pistons are not used in gun butt for recoil management?

Recoil is not that unbearable for 556 lmgs.
As for 762 and higher caliber they are generally setup with their own tripods that throw recoil out of the equation.

 

[Anants]

Recoil is not that unbearable for 556 lmgs.
As for 762 and higher caliber they are generally setup with their own tripods that throw recoil out of the equation.

what about when trying to fire from shoulder? Our Sigs dont have tripod stand either.

 

[Baseplate]

what about when trying to fire from shoulder? Our Sigs dont have tripod stand either.

Machine guns rely more on a cone of fire than on accurate aiming for long distance but it's necessary to ensure stability.
While shoulder firing heavy machineguns you can't create that much stability, you can effectively engage upto a few hundered meters beyond which you will.just be laying suppression.
That's why modern squad level automatic weapons are kept in smaller calliper as they are easier to handle and can also be used effectively from the shoulder like insas lmg , m249 , rpk etc .
USMC has shifted from its M249 to M27 as according their new doctrine they focus more on accurate fire than the volume of fire .

For heavy lmgs like pkm you can do pretty well upto a limited distance like spestnaz does while shoulder firing. But that's something that needs very heavy training .

As for sigs again with proper training and a careful selection of ammunition and some modification they can also be run pretty well .
As for full auto there's grim chance that they will ever actually need to go cyclic with their rifles

 

[ezsasa]

We procured only 16k, in that too there is a divide in NG7&NG5 and iam not seeing any more purchases of LMG I think INSAS LMG is going to have a long run here

that 16k order in 2020 are all NG7.