Indian Small Arms and Weapons

[Noob]

“Aditya, I’m putting this out one more time (may not be the latter time) for guys in your forum. Any future discussions can always refer this.

1. SSLMT is a name only. LMT and us had ideas of doing a JV and created this entity. Thankfully for us, the JV did not materialize since we realized that the net gain was minimal owing to ITAR related compulsions. Nobody would undertake a tech transfer without a contract and we’d keep our hopes high with nothing to show.
2. LMT never gave us a design. If u know how US firms work, even asking a query as innocent as “what’s the raw material on your receiver” is greeted with “you’re not ITAR cleared”. We finally had to cancel the JV and informed them. They too were happy I guess since an Estonia contract was taking up too much of their time. In my view, a licensing contract with minimal tech transfer is all that foreign firms will be willing to give. That was not palatable to us. Hence we set up a team to do things our way
3. Check on the shareholding pattern of SSLMT and it’s available on the MCI portal. If you find any foreign co there, I’ll put out a formal apology for calling ourselves an indigenous firm.
4. Why aren’t we changing the LMT in our firm name ? I’m waiting for that desperately. But we’re on multiple RFP’s and changing names midway requires us to give all kinds of representations. We have already sought a change of name approval from MHA (that too is needed). So, it’ll happen
5. Do we have LMT designers working for us ? - biggest BS point of all time. If so, why have we taken on projects where LMT or their designers have no exposure eg: the .338 and 7.62x51 bolt action snipers. Also, why would we develop the P72, a 7.62x39 caliber rifle. LMT or their engineers would die before working on that. Logic just doesn’t hold up.

“Last but not the least - some guys have asked us on IP that we have. Answer, we have already filed for design registrations on several of our weapons and upgrades as well. Now, does one take a patent on a weapon. NO - weapons have rarely changed over the years. A gas operated system and/or bolt actions are common. Patents are filed for subtle things on a weapon - how a folding buttstock is secured or how a suppressor’s baffles are arranged.”

Vivek Krishnan, CEO of SSSD asked me to share these clarifications.

“So let me give u the info many of the forum members may want to refer
1. P72 - design is the same as the AK though we’ve added a non reciprocating charging handle on the left, a free floating barrel, easier dust cover operation for maintenance. The receiver is milled but we’ve found a way to go into mass production by holding tighter tolerances. The bolt carrier is lighter. The barrel is a 16 inch barrel designed and made by us. Yes, we make the barrels as well (I’m confirming this). The buttstock has variants, all folding - both M4 style and a Magpul Zhukov style. We aren’t making the mags for now (why would I do so without larger orders) Suppressor compliant as well.

2. M72 - design is a short stroke piston on 5.56x45 mm. We had a DI variant as well but this is what we want to push. The AR15 footprint is obvious. Barrel is free floating and made by us (again confirming). We have 14.5 and 10.5 inch options. All weapons are designed to be SF use compliant with suppressor made available. Buttstock is M4 style. This cannot fold.

3. Snipers: bolt action, 7.62x51 is a 2 lug bolt while the .338 is a 3 lug bolt. Free floating barrel (designed and made by us. Confirming it). All suppressor compliant and we have designed and made the suppressors as well. We have a 24 inch barrel on the 7.62x51 and have multiple lengths on the .338 (experimenting based on missions)

4. G72: 9x19 mm SMG. Now this is a roller delayed blowback system. Nothing fancy. Very similar to most SMG’s in the market. Folding buttstock, free floating barrel (made by us), weight around 2.9 -3 kg. Suppressor compliant and we make it as well. Magazine is a 3rd party polymer magazine. Lower receiver and upper receiver is Aerospace Aluminium (we haven’t used polymer as many SMG’s in the market do). Ambidextrous controls

5. Pistol: we’ll release a 9x19 mm pistol shortly. On this, I’ll say it’s a Glock variant. I hope that’s fine since the Glock went off patent quite many years ago. We’ll also come up with one with a metal frame. Shall be heavier than the polymer frame version but that’s fine by us.

6. 7.62x51 DMR: will be a short stroke piston variant. Semi auto with a precision barrel. Again, the AR10 footprint will be obvious but we’ll have a crisp trigger”

On their existing and future programs.

Thank you for talking on behalf of us all and thank God atleast someone is working it may not be perfect but it's better than OFB nonsense, more sucess to them will bring more positive changes hopefully. And seems like they have dropped their plans for an LMG for now.

 

[jaijaganath]

“So let me give u the info many of the forum members may want to refer
1. P72 - design is the same as the AK though we’ve added a non reciprocating charging handle on the left, a free floating barrel, easier dust cover operation for maintenance. The receiver is milled but we’ve found a way to go into mass production by holding tighter tolerances. The bolt carrier is lighter. The barrel is a 16 inch barrel designed and made by us. Yes, we make the barrels as well (I’m confirming this). The buttstock has variants, all folding - both M4 style and a Magpul Zhukov style. We aren’t making the mags for now (why would I do so without larger orders) Suppressor compliant as well.

2. M72 - design is a short stroke piston on 5.56x45 mm. We had a DI variant as well but this is what we want to push. The AR15 footprint is obvious. Barrel is free floating and made by us (again confirming). We have 14.5 and 10.5 inch options. All weapons are designed to be SF use compliant with suppressor made available. Buttstock is M4 style. This cannot fold.

3. Snipers: bolt action, 7.62x51 is a 2 lug bolt while the .338 is a 3 lug bolt. Free floating barrel (designed and made by us. Confirming it). All suppressor compliant and we have designed and made the suppressors as well. We have a 24 inch barrel on the 7.62x51 and have multiple lengths on the .338 (experimenting based on missions)

4. G72: 9x19 mm SMG. Now this is a roller delayed blowback system. Nothing fancy. Very similar to most SMG’s in the market. Folding buttstock, free floating barrel (made by us), weight around 2.9 -3 kg. Suppressor compliant and we make it as well. Magazine is a 3rd party polymer magazine. Lower receiver and upper receiver is Aerospace Aluminium (we haven’t used polymer as many SMG’s in the market do). Ambidextrous controls

5. Pistol: we’ll release a 9x19 mm pistol shortly. On this, I’ll say it’s a Glock variant. I hope that’s fine since the Glock went off patent quite many years ago. We’ll also come up with one with a metal frame. Shall be heavier than the polymer frame version but that’s fine by us.

6. 7.62x51 DMR: will be a short stroke piston variant. Semi auto with a precision barrel. Again, the AR10 footprint will be obvious but we’ll have a crisp trigger”

On their existing and future programs.

Wonderful
Ask him to open an office and permanent base in Armenia
As that's the place where atmanirbhar campaign is successful

 

[ArjunMK1A]

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I don't know why the barrel looks like it fires an half inch round

OFB Bois just shivering by seeing this.

 

[VictorDelta4]

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I don't know why the barrel looks like it fires an half inch round

Obligatory "Welcome back Magpul Masada" post!