Indian Special Forces

[Baseplate]

Yes, in destroyers, frigates, and in aircraft carriers.

Even in OPVs right ?

 

[Tier 1 Patriot]

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[Tier 1 Patriot]

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[lexCommando]

I am so happy Kumaoni has

MARCOS's mission overlaps alot with SEALs, SWCCs, Old school DEVGRU (mission set ki bat kar ra hu), MARSOC Raiders, Force Recon, Coast Gaurd MSRT, MSST & HITRON. So US has a diverse SF subset because of their budget and resources. Damn imagine less than 1000 guys doing all that what a total of 20,000 US Special operators do. Ofcourse I am not comparing but still, MARCOS are always busy I've made an assesment from combining all open source platforms as to what MARCOS deployment cycle would be and what all they'd be doing apart from sending a task unit sized force in Kashmir early. But I cant really share than here. All I can say is that I belive MARCOS follow the UK SF model of deployment on 6 month basis

Does marcos have more SBS influence or SEAL?

 

[Jedi Operator]

I am so happy Kumaoni has

MARCOS's mission overlaps alot with SEALs, SWCCs, Old school DEVGRU (mission set ki bat kar ra hu), MARSOC Raiders, Force Recon, Coast Gaurd MSRT, MSST & HITRON. So US has a diverse SF subset because of their budget and resources. Damn imagine less than 1000 guys doing all that what a total of 20,000 US Special operators do. Ofcourse I am not comparing but still, MARCOS are always busy I've made an assesment from combining all open source platforms as to what MARCOS deployment cycle would be and what all they'd be doing apart from sending a task unit sized force in Kashmir early. But I cant really share than here. All I can say is that I belive MARCOS follow the UK SF model of deployment on 6 month basis

bhai I was first about to write

"I am so happy Kumaoni has changed into a better person to discuss stuff out here than just a red pilled or black pilled guy we knew of him earlier"

Then when I scrolled through @Mr.Evil 's post I lost track of my thought lmao

 

[Mr.Evil]

bhai I was first about to write

"I am so happy Kumaoni has changed into a better person to discuss stuff out here than just a red pilled or black pilled guy we knew of him earlier"

Then when I scrolled through @Mr.Evil 's post I lost track of my thought lmao

Bro I was so confused isiliye I didn’t ask anything I thought kumaoni ka hoga kuch marines k sath

 

[Jedi Operator]

Someone said that each naval ship in seas has a Marcos prahar on it, is it true?

yes
After the USS Cole incident, all the Navy's in the world had kept a small recon and sanitization force to be put out ahead of them reaching a harbour. In every ship a recon force like in US sometimes it's the vanilla SEALs if it's a big warship. During GWOT sometimes it was also DEVGRU or MARSOC. In and around the continental United States it is a role of the MSST of the coast gaurd. Otherwise it is also a role of Force Recon if it's to assist in a regular training deployment. The Indian Nvay does not sail as much as the US does so for us 8-MARCOS on board each ship do the job well.

 

[COLDHEARTED AVIATOR]

bhai I was first about to write

"I am so happy Kumaoni has changed into a better person to discuss stuff out here than just a red pilled or black pilled guy we knew of him earlier"

Then when I scrolled through @Mr.Evil 's post I lost track of my thought lmao

Ya he is my friend now

 

[Jedi Operator]

Does marcos have more SBS influence or SEAL?

A little bit of both.....MARCOS were raised out of the CD (Clearance Divers)
SBS set up the Diving School in India back in the late 1950s. This is written in Wikipedia but I went through the references it gave and it is from an encylopedia of world special forces co-authored by Chris Ryan who was in the 22 SAS, so I belive it to be true, since it comes directly from a UKSF vetran. Do check that out.

In 1971 they were involved in covert sabotage ops in Bangladesh similar to how SBS did in WW2 but more similar to how OSS or SOE operates because they trained Mukti Bahini too and were good at tradecraft. Read Operation X for more.

In mid-late 1970s again India learnt how to extract oil from the ocean near Bombay High and so the oil facilities were formed. In Duncan Falconer's book "First into Action" the British SBS says that in the late 1970s, SBS was the first unit to come up with the Idea that Oil Rigs need protection from potential sabootage and terror attacks and thus trained for it.

According to Indian Navy, MARCOS as IMSF were raised exactly to protect offshore oil rigs, something that was sanctioned in 1985-86 and was fully functional force by 1987. In between various forces were studied, they went throught training with SEALs is when we first hear of their interaction with them

The force has come a long way after that and we can say that though their mandate is similar to SBS, their training pattern is similar to SEALs structure wise. But ragda wise the diving school's still the same, the land part is inspired from BUD/S and the final phase is more like UKSF continuation trianing.

MARCOS are often compared with SEALs because they are more famous. Also Royal Marine's SBS are very small - fewer than 200 guys handling missions around the world. Where would they have time to cross train with other countries too often, so we train with them too but we train with their Royal Marines as well. We mostly see us training with SEALs - be it Vanila ones, because they are larger.

So apke upar hai dekhlo whose influence we follow the most.

 

[lexCommando]

A little bit of both.....MARCOS were raised out of the CD (Clearance Divers)
SBS set up the Diving School in India back in the late 1950s. This is written in Wikipedia but I went through the references it gave and it is from an encylopedia of world special forces co-authored by Chris Ryan who was in the 22 SAS, so I belive it to be true, since it comes directly from a UKSF vetran. Do check that out.

In 1971 they were involved in covert sabotage ops in Bangladesh similar to how SBS did in WW2 but more similar to how OSS or SOE operates because they trained Mukti Bahini too and were good at tradecraft. Read Operation X for more.

In mid-late 1970s again India learnt how to extract oil from the ocean near Bombay High and so the oil facilities were formed. In Duncan Falconer's book "First into Action" the British SBS says that in the late 1970s, SBS was the first unit to come up with the Idea that Oil Rigs need protection from potential sabootage and terror attacks and thus trained for it.

According to Indian Navy, MARCOS as IMSF were raised exactly to protect offshore oil rigs, something that was sanctioned in 1985-86 and was fully functional force by 1987. In between various forces were studied, they went throught training with SEALs is when we first hear of their interaction with them

The force has come a long way after that and we can say that though their mandate is similar to SBS, their training pattern is similar to SEALs structure wise. But ragda wise the diving school's still the same, the land part is inspired from BUD/S and the final phase is more like UKSF continuation trianing.

MARCOS are often compared with SEALs because they are more famous. Also Royal Marine's SBS are very small - fewer than 200 guys handling missions around the world. Where would they have time to cross train with other countries too often, so we train with them too but we train with their Royal Marines as well. We mostly see us training with SEALs - be it Vanila ones, because they are larger.

So apke upar hai dekhlo whose influence we follow the most.

SBS is the best true example of "quality matters not quantity". It has been widely accepted in UKSF community (as noticed in British defense behavior too) that SBS is a tier over (not in literally tier sense) SAS in terms of handling missions. 99% of things they did/ do is classified by their govt (even more than 22 SAS lol). Also people often compare it to DEVGRU so you can realize how OP those guys are. I can only wish we will ever raise a unit such like them. (Not quantity but quality) also not asking for a new naval SF unit as marcos has always kept us happy lol but army definitely needs something like this

 

[lexCommando]

 

[Jedi Operator]

SBS is the best true example of "quality matters not quantity". It has been widely accepted in UKSF community (as noticed in British defense behavior too) that SBS is a tier over (not in literally tier sense) SAS in terms of handling missions. 99% of things they did/ do is classified by their govt (even more than 22 SAS lol). Also people often compare it to DEVGRU so you can realize how OP those guys are. I can only wish we will ever raise a unit such like them. (Not quantity but quality) also not asking for a new naval SF unit as marcos has always kept us happy lol but army definitely needs something like this

well the secrecy of SBS comes from it's history in the 1970s and 80s. You see, whichever example you pick be it Duncan Falconer's book "First into Action" or Don Camsell's book "Black Water" both of them say that the SAS was the one which got deployed for most missions not the SBS therefore the SBS often sent it's men to the 14 Int which operated in Northern Ireland. Back then after 2 years with the 14 Int guys would get back to the SBS. About majority of the guys in 14 Intellegence Company were either SBS or regular army who were part of Brixmis. PS - Check out Brixmis amazing bunch of dudes who did ops more secretive than SAS in the height of cold war!

As far as we know after the problem in Northern Ireland got stable pretty much, 14 Int was converted into the SRR and given a global responsibility.

MARCOS is all about quality not quantity watch Cdr Vijay Rawat's recent interview with Gaurav Thakur. I do not follow any Indian podcaster exept the Airforce's Blue Skies and another guy called Kushal Mehra. However I keep updated with interviews with former MARCOS.
So Cdr Vijay said in that podcast that in some MARCOS courses 20% people will pass and in some cases not even a single person completed selection. All of them failed.

So taking that into account the attrition rate can be form 80% to 100%. MARCOS holds 3-4 courses per year baki hisab laga lo

 

[Tier 1 Patriot]

Even the Seals want this Beauty

 

[Jedi Operator]

I believe either MARCOS deploy this way

or

like the UK SF ones

 

[Airborne22]

Marines did joint excercise with Marcos in Goa. Probably this is presented by them.
And nowhere it says this is from MARSOC.

Even this year's tri service excercise excercise Tiger Triumph 24 Marines were involved.

Caption - This is when someone from Marcos paid a visit to MARSOC.
It's pretty common to send a skilled officer/nco to some foreign unit

 

[hunfrnc]

Is there a height requirement here? The Para SF guy looks too short and malnourished making that Tavor look humongous in his hands

Look at him carefully, seems like he has strong hands, arms and biceps...he is not malnourished, but looks very young, probably a new recruit, or just a lot of cardio heavy guy.
I think he is very lean, but strong, just like any Lieutenant right out of the academy.

 

[VictorDelta4]

@Nightshade1992 btw do y’all ship to ameirca? I’m interested in buying your stuff.

Add Germany too if you are shipping internationally @Nightshade1992 . Would love some trousers. However I checked and they were just in ranger Green. Do you also have them in Black? The combo deal on the website is good.

 

[Airborne22]

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looks like one of the converted units alongside RR QRT. Is there any good PC to accomodate those huge Level 4 Plates ? Are there any level 4 plates with shorter frame / form factor ?

 

[Tier 1 Patriot]

looks like one of the converted units alongside RR QRT. Is there any good PC to accomodate those huge Level 4 Plates ? Are there any level 4 plates with shorter frame / form factor ?

One guy filling PKM belt in middle of the encounter

 

[Mr.Evil]

One guy filling PKM belt in middle of the encounter

Are they not sitting too casually in an encounter?no cover no nothing looks like a shooting drill to me