Indian Special Forces

[jaijaganath]

Whats the point? In terms of small arms and scopes the Americans are on par with the Germans now, just buy from them.

Just bcoz I can die peacefully when I see para sf operator with properly kitted hk-416

 

[Baseplate]

Whats the point? In terms of small arms and scopes the Americans are on par with the Germans now, just buy from them.

honestly german arms industry is loosing its edge .

Friendship ended with HK now KAC is my best company

 

[username unkown]

honestly german arms industry is loosing its edge .

Friendship ended with HK now KAC is my best company

My main concern in all this is Germany is an highly unreliable defence partner
Best we gonna get is arad

 

[Baseplate]

View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y9DTJgMNUbM

 

[Gessler]

Midnight rant.

Something, somewhere has gone horribly wrong with the Paras. The whole regiment.

Basically, there's been no change in the primary weapon systems for nearly 20 YEARS. The f@cking INFANTRY now has more modern weapon platforms than the so called SFs!

NV, Comms too in similar state of development or lack thereof. The Paras are simply stuck in a point of time & unable to move forward.

People like PC Katoch and from this generation Avinash Sahani have spoken about the organizational faults at length. Won't go into that now except to say that by turning every Para battalion into SF, the Army brass has perhaps broken two of the SOF Truths:

Special Forces cannot be mass-produced.

AND

Quality is better than quantity.

Cuz probably this is what happens when you disregard the SOF truths.

Within the next few years, MARCOS will leave the Paras so far behind that it'll become impossible to pursue operational jointness at the tactical level. A major stumbling block will be created in what AFSOD is trying to do wrt developing common SOPs. Because first we'll need to bring all the SFs on an equal footing wrt equipment as well as the knowledge & experience of working with said equipment.

 

[samsaptaka]

Our special force's civilian instructor in some foreign country

View: https://www.instagram.com/p/DBeWHP6ygkw/?igsh=aWJmdHJua2M0YW5n

Is he not ex army or nsg ?

 

[Nightshade1992]

Is he not ex army or nsg ?

Not from the armed forces.

 

[Tier 1 Patriot]

Not from the armed forces.

Maj Avinash sir ko yeh course karna chahiye toh SF k liye acha hota

 

[Unknowncommando]

German FALKE SL Red Dot Sight coupled with Indian TONBO SPARTAN-SH Thermal Sight mounted on Romanian PM MD 90 Assault Rifle with Israeli FAB DEFENSE Magazine

 

[Alby]

German FALKE SL Red Dot Sight coupled with Indian TONBO SPARTAN-SH Thermal Sight mounted on Romanian PM MD 90 Assault Rifle with Israeli FAB DEFENSE Magazine

Seems that they are distributing the Fab kits which are in limited numbers to maximum Aks ie one will get dust cover rail another will get stock another will get hand guards etc.Had seen in some RR units.Meh
Why Paras are not getting Ak203s
In addition to Arads SF should buy some Ace Gen2 in 7.62x39 too.

 

[Noob]

Not from the armed forces.

Isn't he KASOTC certified? I thought you need to be of military background to do that

 

[BlackViking]

Many units prefer to store the kits in cases and take them out only when some user specifically asks for them or photo-ops.

 

[Alby]

One of the main issue with Para selection is that the applicant don’t have any option to choose between SF and Airborne. If some super talented guy in reality wants to join SF but is send to airborne selection and he gets selected there then his talents are not optimally utilised.And if some average skilled guy just wants airborne but is send for SF then enither ne never gets selected even if he posesses skills to get selected for airborne or even if he gets selected the unit might not get optimal results.
In west there are seperate selection for Rangers Green berets airborne and Deltas.Here it is clusterfuck.
But now as all the ones with para wings are proclaimed as SF that issue has been addressed

 

[Alby]

View: https://www.instagram.com/reel/DBjm7pVowLN/?igsh=NzVrMDFpMjlmamJk
Do we have similar ones or something in pipeline?

 

[COLDHEARTED AVIATOR]

One of the main issue with Para selection is that the applicant don’t have any option to choose between SF and Airborne. If some super talented guy in reality wants to join SF but is send to airborne selection and he gets selected there then his talents are not optimally utilised.And if some average skilled guy just wants airborne but is send for SF then enither ne never gets selected even if he posesses skills to get selected for airborne or even if he gets selected the unit might not get optimal results.
In west there are seperate selection for Rangers Green berets airborne and Deltas.Here it is clusterfuck.
But now as all the ones with para wings are proclaimed as SF that issue has been addressed

There should be a selection board comprised of fine officers with intellect and less of hulla bulla.

Interviews should be conducted for hours.

You are hiring people that can one day guard your nuclear assets so you have to be really careful.

I am worried the present lot can even make reels in a nuclear facility.

 

[Jedi Operator]

There should be a selection board comprised of fine officers with intellect and less of hulla bulla.

Interviews should be conducted for hours.

You are hiring people that can one day guard your nuclear assets so you have to be really careful.

I am worried the present lot can even make reels in a nuclear facility.

I'll tell you this about the selection....

Little effort was made even to concurrently hike the advanced special forces skills training capacity of the special Forces Training school.

In one instance, a batch of 130 volunteers was sent to SFTs for probation (though SFTs had no such charter) and standards were diluted to pass at least 50 percent of them.

Concurrently, a larger batch was made to do a three-month probation at the Parachute Regiment Training Centre itself, including one month of the Para Basic Course. Thereafter, they were simply ‘posted’ to special forces units. This was in complete disregard of the requirement of six-month probation to be done in the respective special forces unit under the supervision of the concerned commanding officer.

Many of such intakes were sub-standard, even poor in battle physical efficiency tests (BPET), and the older junior commissioned officers (JCOs) and noncommissioned officers (NCOs) were heard commenting, “Sahib total pura ho raha hai.”

Since these individuals were ‘posted’ to units, to revert even one individual, the commanding officer was required to declare him ‘unsuitable’ and obtain sanction of army Headquarters prior to such reversion. This meant delay in months with ample chance of non-acceptance by the Para officer dealing with the issue in the Infantry Directorate.

All this is from this article by Lt Gen PC Katoch

 

[RDXChauhan]

 

[COLDHEARTED AVIATOR]

I'll tell you this about the selection....

Little effort was made even to concurrently hike the advanced special forces skills training capacity of the special Forces Training school.

In one instance, a batch of 130 volunteers was sent to SFTs for probation (though SFTs had no such charter) and standards were diluted to pass at least 50 percent of them.

Concurrently, a larger batch was made to do a three-month probation at the Parachute Regiment Training Centre itself, including one month of the Para Basic Course. Thereafter, they were simply ‘posted’ to special forces units. This was in complete disregard of the requirement of six-month probation to be done in the respective special forces unit under the supervision of the concerned commanding officer.

Many of such intakes were sub-standard, even poor in battle physical efficiency tests (BPET), and the older junior commissioned officers (JCOs) and noncommissioned officers (NCOs) were heard commenting, “Sahib total pura ho raha hai.”

Since these individuals were ‘posted’ to units, to revert even one individual, the commanding officer was required to declare him ‘unsuitable’ and obtain sanction of army Headquarters prior to such reversion. This meant delay in months with ample chance of non-acceptance by the Para officer dealing with the issue in the Infantry Directorate.

All this is from this article by Lt Gen PC Katoch

I forecast that in the coming decades such standards will be further lowered to induct women officers followed by transgender and the entire Army would become a SFF kind of platform where sex among everyone gets common.

 

[Unknowncommando]