Indian Special Forces

[Noob]

For the 'I didn't see it so SF doesn't have it' gang

1. IWI X-95 FT assault rifle with 9mm conversion kit.(Sauce: SS from the video by @elite_warriors26)
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2. IWI X-95 FT assault rifle with GL-40 UBGL.(Sauce: Pics from Indian Navy)
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Everyone here knows they have had these for a while now seen plenty of time they have had photoshoots in conversation kits too

 

[Magadha Naresh]

We were talking about RI. Firing techniques, better CQB, better equipment is need of all.
So you want all para units to learn room intervention?

Sir, I apologise for the rant against army, I was well, frustrated or edgy as they say nowadays.
I know that para sf is principally there for operations , deep in enemy territory .
Like the surgical strike in 2016, also what PARA SF needs to learn, para sf know it better , far better than most of the members in civillian world , thus I won't dare to remark on the tactics of our army .
Still , why can't the army equip every soldier, except artillery probably with NVGs ?
Para , RR , Ghatak or simply a soldier from the infantry regiments like Rajrif , Jakli etc .
In Iraq Americans wiped the floor with Iraqis , because they could fight at night too .
Iraqi tanks nor their men not even the famed republican guard divisions like Medina munnawara etc had NVGs .
This was in the kuwait war in 90s , when iraq was still strong!
Indian army stopping an operation, due to nightfall, literally feels like 80s.
I don't know how NVGs work, probably they wouldn't work in the heavily forested environment of Kashmir at night .
Still , what if they do work ?
@COLDHEARTED AVIATOR sir , do NVGs stop working in any circumstances?

 

[Corvus Splendens]

For the 'I didn't see it so SF doesn't have it' gang

1. IWI X-95 FT assault rifle with 9mm conversion kit.(Sauce: SS from the video by @elite_warriors26)
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2. IWI X-95 FT assault rifle with GL-40 UBGL.(Sauce: Pics from Indian Navy)
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We're not discussing rudimentary bare minimum rifle and scope here.

 

[COLDHEARTED AVIATOR]

View: https://youtube.com/shorts/1T6HUvIO1uc?si=m6jeg6TKshOzddK6

 

[COLDHEARTED AVIATOR]

Sir, I apologise for the rant against army, I was well, frustrated or edgy as they say nowadays.
I know that para sf is principally there for operations , deep in enemy territory .
Like the surgical strike in 2016, also what PARA SF needs to learn, para sf know it better , far better than most of the members in civillian world , thus I won't dare to remark on the tactics of our army .
Still , why can't the army equip every soldier, except artillery probably with NVGs ?
Para , RR , Ghatak or simply a soldier from the infantry regiments like Rajrif , Jakli etc .
In Iraq Americans wiped the floor with Iraqis , because they could fight at night too .
Iraqi tanks nor their men not even the famed republican guard divisions like Medina munnawara etc had NVGs .
This was in the kuwait war in 90s , when iraq was still strong!
Indian army stopping an operation, due to nightfall, literally feels like 80s.
I don't know how NVGs work, probably they wouldn't work in the heavily forested environment of Kashmir at night .
Still , what if they do work ?
@COLDHEARTED AVIATOR sir , do NVGs stop working in any circumstances?

Bro,

NVGs is good for getting from Point A to Point B.

What Indian Army needs for such forested areas is Thermals.

Nowadays,you can pair and NVG and Thermal together and get the best of both worlds.

With NVGs in a forested area the detection can be as late as few metres away…Bring a Thermal in the picture the distance increases 10 folds.




View: https://youtube.com/shorts/E3HNuB9jx8M?si=K7_Ui9kWlv6zkRSh


The excuses that Indian Army gives makes you feel they have no idea about Night Warfare..They might be best runners and climbers no doubt..but here they are not the best.

 

[Nutcracker]

Anytime I see the grunts holding their weapon in a weird way i always had the feeling that the bolded was the case but now we have it from horse's mouth.

Such contempt for your own guys, you don't even bother to train/teach them since it's "pointless" apparently.

Yes, looks like in last 30 years REAL DEHAT has seeped into the army and in turn SF too, thanks to unabated nepotism and favouritism.

 

[shade2]

Yes, looks like in last 30 years REAL DEHAT has seeped into the army and in turn SF too, thanks to unabated nepotism and favouritism.

The lads were originally dehat only, but this time the officer class also seems to not be interested.

The gist of it is they see the boys as just meat to throw into the grinder, so they don't bother with tactics, training, equipment etc.

The lower rank of officer class is also impacted because they fight alongside the boys and lead them.

Very sad mindset and we will have to pay the price as a nation in the future.

 

[Jedi Operator]

Will breaching shotgun be useful in Indian latch type doors ?

NSG kicked doors and used shotguns to breach in 26/11, even Praveen Teotia said MARCOS used shotguns to breach in

 

[Jedi Operator]

Do they have breachers in NSG?

saar dont doubt the capability of our elite NSG Black Cat Phantom Superman CQB 1st Detachment Development 24 STS Special Air Boat Service commandos!

Breachers are not usefal in Indian context, we have demolition exfarts

And nale ka pani is the secret to their energy

 

[ArjunMK1A]

Army top brass can't able to fix an Infantry. Expecting them to fix Special Forces is too much. We already seen the opposite of this by making an Airborne infantry into Special Forces and destroyed the concept of Speical Forces itself.

No dedicated office to define Men and machines. Each of them buy from Amazon, Flipakart, Ali Express, India mart, CSD of different brands.

Can't have tools to fight in Night. Does not have aerial support to provide some sort of ISR, Fire power.

Top of that we have that iconic R-Day jump.

 

[Alby]

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*thinking cap on*

1969
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1972
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*thinking cap off*

I am sure some of you muhht have heard of a US sniper and spotter duo who killed 16 or 17 NVA guys with headshots using M14 fitted with starlight scope with in seconds or maximum minutes time span.That say’s about their night fighting capabilities in late 60s.There is youtube documentary on them.

 

[Hydra7.62]

At 1:01:25

-Listen to his take on chain of commands in navy SEALs and
MARCOS.
-He calls SEALs dumb and also highlights the fact that seals need mineral bottled water.


View: https://youtu.be/0-KxtVKCnHM?si=Y9DQk4z1FbTt8qOm

 

[Unknowncommando]

 

[JConline]

At 1:01:25

-Listen to his take on chain of commands in navy SEALs and
MARCOS.
-He calls SEALs dumb and also highlights the fact that seals need mineral bottled water.


View: https://youtu.be/0-KxtVKCnHM?si=Y9DQk4z1FbTt8qOm

Let's be brutally honest. The Indian Armed Forces haven't done anything noteworthy since the liberation of Bangladesh. A few successful cross-border raids in 50-odd years isn't something to chest thump about. On the contrary, the premier militaries of the world have done things during this time-period that is practically unimaginable to the Indian top brass. The premier militaries justify their pride with what they have achieved. Their Indian counterparts not having done anything noteworthy, need to show their contemporaries in a bad light in whatever way possible to try and add some value to the shit-show they've been running.
Thus you get comments akin to "Bisleri boys" from our Armed Forces personnel. Additionally, they keep running this agenda cause they understand that the average Indian isn't informed enough to see through their excuses.
At the end of the day, the prevailing attitude in the Indian Armed Forces or even in Indian societies is "Chalta hai toh chalne do" and whenever that is challenged, you'll be graced with the most pathetic justifications and excuses.

 

[Baseplate]

At 1:01:25

-Listen to his take on chain of commands in navy SEALs and
MARCOS.
-He calls SEALs dumb and also highlights the fact that seals need mineral bottled water.


View: https://youtu.be/0-KxtVKCnHM?si=Y9DQk4z1FbTt8qOm

Never understood this rhetoric.
This is not a Dick measuring contest , no one gives a fuck if u drink Gatorade or nali ka Pani.
Your operational history is the only thing that actually matters .

Seals have issues (a lot of them) but their orgs operational history is all that actually matters .

Also if you can't provide your tip of the spear with basic supplies during general operations . IT'S NOT A FLEX

 

[lexCommando]

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sorry but this is prime cuck mentality.. giving buddha and all is good but have we forgotten that this land has also gave birth to legends like ashoka, chandragupta, harsha, chola chola etc? cholas were especially unchallenged in their naval expeditions and now this godforsaken country doesnt even have marines lol

 

[KumaoniReborn]

Sir, I apologise for the rant against army, I was well, frustrated or edgy as they say nowadays.
I know that para sf is principally there for operations , deep in enemy territory .
Like the surgical strike in 2016, also what PARA SF needs to learn, para sf know it better , far better than most of the members in civillian world , thus I won't dare to remark on the tactics of our army .
Still , why can't the army equip every soldier, except artillery probably with NVGs ?
Para , RR , Ghatak or simply a soldier from the infantry regiments like Rajrif , Jakli etc .
In Iraq Americans wiped the floor with Iraqis , because they could fight at night too .
Iraqi tanks nor their men not even the famed republican guard divisions like Medina munnawara etc had NVGs .
This was in the kuwait war in 90s , when iraq was still strong!
Indian army stopping an operation, due to nightfall, literally feels like 80s.
I don't know how NVGs work, probably they wouldn't work in the heavily forested environment of Kashmir at night .
Still , what if they do work ?
@COLDHEARTED AVIATOR sir , do NVGs stop working in any circumstances?

The main reason Americans dominated Iraq was due to SATCOM which allowed for entire iraqi divisions to be vaporized

 

[shade2]

sorry but this is prime cuck mentality.. giving buddha and all is good but have we forgotten that this land has also gave birth to legends like ashoka, chandragupta, harsha, chola chola etc? cholas were especially unchallenged in their naval expeditions and now this godforsaken country doesnt even have marines lol

It's only playing to the moral grandstanding "moral superiority" preached to us since Independence, where """""morality"""""" of a very specific kind is valued more than having strength, the type of morality that quotes only "Ahimsa Parmo Dharma" without quoting the rest of that one verse.

It is the mindset that leads to unkils forwarding "India never invaded anyone in 5000 years saar" on WhatsApp.

It is also what politicians use as cover for national weakness, love of dhandho & economy or empty sermons given to a friendly country under pressure from other countries like "today is not the era of war" or "we gave the world Buddh, not Yudh".


As for Marines...
Navy would rather have that same money available to be spent on Boats rather than on pensions & salaries for the marines like a certain other force

 

[COLDHEARTED AVIATOR]

Let's be brutally honest. The Indian Armed Forces haven't done anything noteworthy since the liberation of Bangladesh. A few successful cross-border raids in 50-odd years isn't something to chest thump about. On the contrary, the premier militaries of the world have done things during this time-period that is practically unimaginable to the Indian top brass. The premier militaries justify their pride with what they have achieved. Their Indian counterparts not having done anything noteworthy, need to show their contemporaries in a bad light in whatever way possible to try and add some value to the shit-show they've been running.
Thus you get comments akin to "Bisleri boys" from our Armed Forces personnel. Additionally, they keep running this agenda cause they understand that the average Indian isn't informed enough to see through their excuses.
At the end of the day, the prevailing attitude in the Indian Armed Forces or even in Indian societies is "Chalta hai toh chalne do" and whenever that is challenged, you'll be graced with the most pathetic justifications and excuses.

Let me also be brutally honest now..

After 71 the Army pretty much started loosing its edge.The primary reason for such was the degradation in officer quality in every decade.

The standards the British officers kept have long perished and JI Hazorri has become prevalent.

Sri Lanka was a massacre of Indian Army..SF got thrashed left right and centre..10 Para in particular if i am not mistaken paid a very heavy price.

Then came the disaster of Kargil…Army had no idea about infiltration..The shephard was treated very badly in the initial days coz Army thought he is crazy and disnt waste efforts in verifying his claims.

Meanwhile the Army was busy in making a ZOO.

Human wave tactics and the balidaan of young blood who were motivated along with an enemy who had no air power and reinforcements won us Kargil..Nothing else..no Generals and not even the stupid PM.

Then coming to Kashmir…40 years since the conflict…what have we invented?..Which tactics has Indian Army evolved…Most soldiers cant even do drills without taking the finger off trigger and flaghing their buddies.

Since 2021 SF is getting targeted..Whats the counter strategy?

Jumlebaazi…False i say again False sense of Machoism…False sense of superiority complex..has costed us very bad.

All airborne battalions are made SF without any resources and No New Airborne battalions are raised…Shows us how genius our Generals are.

 

[Corvus Splendens]

now this godforsaken country doesnt even have marines lol

Imagine being a massive peninsular nation with islands to spare, sitting on the busiest shipping route in the world, and not having Marine infantry.