Indian Special Forces

Buddy there are 2 professions all over the world where the military over hypes the manliness or supehumaness bcoz of the only reason ie occupational hazards.

One is SF and second is fighter pilots.

Eating glass is a exercise which brings them invincibility.

Similarly,in AF fighter pilots are regularly told they are the best in the world..which makes them feel …oh yeaaah i am indeed the best.

Which is ok if you think about it..both professions have a high risk of death and injury.
 
How great would it be if the attitude of "aura of invincibility" actually percolated down to using the best tactics and equipment as well.

But I dream..
So for that i believe you need these guys to see the best and train with them like the Europeans do with Americans.

In a closed system like Indian where very less people actually interact it becomes very hard to be humble and learn new things.
 
So for that i believe you need these guys to see the best and train with them like the Europeans do with Americans.

In a closed system like Indian where very less people actually interact it becomes very hard to be humble and learn new things.
I am actually very surprised at the fact that inspite of regular exercises with US/French SOF for years altogether now, things have still remained stagnant.
 
I am actually very surprised at the fact that inspite of regular exercises with US/French SOF for years altogether now, things have still remained stagnant.
Well,Major Jacob does give a good idea about what attitude are our SF groomed to and what perspective do they carry to such exercise.
 
Buddy there are 2 professions all over the world where the military over hypes the manliness or supehumaness bcoz of the only reason ie occupational hazards.

One is SF and second is fighter pilots.

Eating glass is a exercise which brings them invincibility.

Similarly,in AF fighter pilots are regularly told they are the best in the world..which makes them feel …oh yeaaah i am indeed the best.

Which is ok if you think about it..both professions have a high risk of death and injury.
All SF units have some sort of crazy drinking tradition,
In toby gutteridge's memoir he says that in SBS, a squadron has a tradition of drinking from a vessel made up of a 105mm howitzer shell.

In Pete Winner's memoir SAS's B Squadron had the tradition of each new member drinking a flaming Drambuie. Half filling a standard spirit glass with the liqueur, and igniting it. A nine-inch Bunsen flame would then shoot upward from the liquid and the drinker had to place the flaming glass to his lips and drain the liqueur all in one sip.

Similarly Red Squadron has it's own drinking tradition.
 
I am actually very surprised at the fact that inspite of regular exercises with US/French SOF for years altogether now, things have still remained stagnant.
have you seen any of those exercises been taken seriously ? What we're concerned about is showing up to another unit. Infact we have this attitude of taking army cross country run competitions more seriously than joint exercises with a partner force.

Our average mindset right from the start of millitary training seems to be - harder not smarter. If our SOPs fail us in urban warfare, we are not doing them hard enough, SOPs mei koi dikat nehi hai. And that, is the problem

With that you get perfectly tough people who might actually be witty in operations but will refuse to change, they might make adjustments to suit in particular operations but they are unlikely to be implemented any further or given a standardized platform
 
All SF units have some sort of crazy drinking tradition,
In toby gutteridge's memoir he says that in SBS, a squadron has a tradition of drinking from a vessel made up of a 105mm howitzer shell.

In Pete Winner's memoir SAS's B Squadron had the tradition of each new member drinking a flaming Drambuie. Half filling a standard spirit glass with the liqueur, and igniting it. A nine-inch Bunsen flame would then shoot upward from the liquid and the drinker had to place the flaming glass to his lips and drain the liqueur all in one sip.

Similarly Red Squadron has it's own drinking tradition.
Ya,like i said these traditions are more to make them feel invincible rather than being of any other benefits.
 
have you seen any of those exercises been taken seriously ? What we're concerned about is showing up to another unit. Infact we have this attitude of taking army cross country run competitions more seriously than joint exercises with a partner force.

Our average mindset right from the start of millitary training seems to be - harder not smarter. If our SOPs fail us in urban warfare, we are not doing them hard enough, SOPs mei koi dikat nehi hai. And that, is the problem

With that you get perfectly tough people who might actually be witty in operations but will refuse to change, they might make adjustments to suit in particular operations but they are unlikely to be implemented any further or given a standardized platform
I actually dislike one such tradition..

Koi shaq?

Everyone is expected to not say anything.

I have been in training at some point in my career and i felt if you dont have doubts then you are either not very clear with concepts or you are not thinking on the practical applications and asking about scenarios.
 

Latest Replies

Featured Content

Trending Threads

Back
Top