Indo-China Border & LAC

[shade2]

If Cheena tries to do some russi type special millitary operations, they will incur significant costs which will significantly delay their goals for Taiwan. And any long term war in the Himalayas is a nightmare for both sides. It's just a stalemate at this point.

Cheena's first priority has always been Taiwan. That's what they're preparing for. The existence of Taiwan will always be a bigger humiliation for the CCP.

It's a threat to CCP along with Sooth Korea, Weebistan and Phillipines which all keep China locked in it's region, this is called the 1st Island Chain.


Those 4 countries have US bases and Gimbap and Sushi country armies are materially well-equipped.

So their focus should be on this particular region, since the aforementioned island chain is like a dog-chain around their neck.

by comparison they have nothing to gain by waging a war on another anti-West country like India across horrible mountainous terrain, but then kya pata 11, Jinpig ko pagal kutta kaate?

 

[Azaad]

View: https://youtu.be/9fUCVPaGTus?si=JcswHtl4heeazNpL

 

[Patriots]

Pakistan is struggling still they match with India , we bought rafale they got j10 c
We bought s400 they got hq9
They are trying
But china has 5th gen fighters , we are in rafale bharose ....

 

[mist_consecutive]

Pakistan is struggling still they match with India , we bought rafale they got j10 c
We bought s400 they got hq9
They are trying
But china has 5th gen fighters , we are in rafale bharose ....

It helps when your big daddy China gifts you J10, HQ9, Frigates, Submarines as gifts for being a good bitch and give away Shaksgam Valley.

It also helps when you can direct a large part of your budget to military and no one can question it.

 

[Satish Sharma Ji]

Pakistan is struggling still they match with India , we bought rafale they got j10 c
We bought s400 they got hq9
They are trying
But china has 5th gen fighters , we are in rafale bharose ....

Fun fact J10 is brought on loan which they have to pay over 11 years. Saale 11 saal tak kishte bharte rahenge.
It was not a sale it was a move to counter.

 

[hurrians]

"In the northern border regions, the stalemate in the Galwan region continues despite some soothing statements by India’s military and civilian leaders. Recently, India announced that it will maintain, if not increase, its vigilance in the border areas by inducting more forces despite the onset of winter. In the Depsang Plains and Demchok, there has been no breakthrough in negotiations regarding disengagement."

China, India and New Delhi’s Quad dilemma

In the context of China, it would, hence, be prudent for India not to be seen to be increasing its security congruence with the U.S. and the West

www.thehindu.com

. the advice to be wary of china is rooted in reality
. The west can't be dependent upon to be fighting on our behalf

But then again being timid and succumbing to baniya pressure is not the approach.

.China is Prosperous because the west funded it
.In terms of fdi and investment in China - Taiwanese ,Japanese,German and the west funded chinas rise under American blessings
. even in 1962 China did wage a war with Bharat without its current economic heft

If we want we can raise the stakes for China without going to war, no amount of pleasing can placate china ( strangely something their strategic experts accuse us of too)

Strategic decisions can't be based on baniyagiri.

Russia sells the same S400 system to China.

Unfortunately the amount of energy BJP invests in election strategy it seems it is not expending on the China problem.

There can't be a Bhai bhai not in 1962 not in 2020 , but Bhai Bhai can only happen if we have the upper hand and Chinese fear us.

 

[TopWatcher]

Bhai china peche hat gaya hai


View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UlAc5m_yPYw&t=19s

 

[shade2]

"In the northern border regions, the stalemate in the Galwan region continues despite some soothing statements by India’s military and civilian leaders. Recently, India announced that it will maintain, if not increase, its vigilance in the border areas by inducting more forces despite the onset of winter. In the Depsang Plains and Demchok, there has been no breakthrough in negotiations regarding disengagement."

China, India and New Delhi’s Quad dilemma

In the context of China, it would, hence, be prudent for India not to be seen to be increasing its security congruence with the U.S. and the West

www.thehindu.com

. the advice to be wary of china is rooted in reality
. The west can't be dependent upon to be fighting on our behalf

But then again being timid and succumbing to baniya pressure is not the approach.

.China is Prosperous because the west funded it
.In terms of fdi and investment in China - Taiwanese ,Japanese,German and the west funded chinas rise under American blessings
. even in 1962 China did wage a war with Bharat without its current economic heft

If we want we can raise the stakes for China without going to war, no amount of pleasing can placate china ( strangely something their strategic experts accuse us of too)

Strategic decisions can't be based on baniyagiri.

Russia sells the same S400 system to China.

Unfortunately the amount of energy BJP invests in election strategy it seems it is not expending on the China problem.

There can't be a Bhai bhai not in 1962 not in 2020 , but Bhai Bhai can only happen if we have the upper hand and Chinese fear us.

No need to fear us also, the current Chink assessment is that we are cowards and a pushover.
cowards def from govt behaviors but pushover ka pata nahi, China doesn't seem to be in a rush to validate the pushover portion of the theory

 

[Illusive]

This is the same mentality as congress.

Why should we build infrastructure on border that would give them access china will use and can come deep inside india.

The effect is basically because our population cant even fathom the idea of being the aggressor, expansionist, using hard power. Basically we are pacifists who only attacks when attacked, and idea is always eet ka jawab pathar se denge, doodh mango kheer denge, India has never been the aggressor blah blah blah.

Always thinking in reply to an action, never thinking of taking the initiative and actually killing the threat even before it becomes one.

Fear of loss and face is also very high due to the way politics works in India and due to the pacifist culture as well, so don't instigate and status quo works best.

India suffers from lot of misplaces idealism and values which haven't been taught correctly and it can be seen in the way we do business as well as compared to other juggernauts and giant companies from USA and China.

The vision, the aggression, the risk taking is just not matched or just too few. Many like to work for these countries or companies rather than take the pains to create and rarely have to ability to capture and dominate markets.

 

[hurrians]

"Chinese government is eager to restart operations"


"In response, the Ministry of Commerce and Industry has set up an online portal to fast-track visas for Chinese technicians, particularly for those sectors involved in the Production Linked Incentive (PLI) scheme."

https://www.moneycontrol.com/news/business/india-china-make-progress-on-starting-direct-flights-12840136.html

Since there was no reduction in trade during the standoff period, the decision to suspend direct flights may have only contributed to inconvenience the passengers ,without any tangible outcomes ,coupled with the surgical strike on apps these actions seems to have been to create a smokescreen to give an aura of action.

Anyhow real action occured in the capture of peaks during op snow leopard and the frantic pace of road building projects (aided by increased financial powers to BRO executing authorities and increased budget allocation to BRO),
the last respect paid by a prominent bjp leader to a sff operatve at Ladakh.
Increased missile tests and greater naval deployment in the seas near China.

Hope more info is released on the reason for agreeing to Chinese proposal of turning the page.

 

[shade2]

The effect is basically because our population cant even fathom the idea of being the aggressor, expansionist, using hard power. Basically we are pacifists who only attacks when attacked, and idea is always eet ka jawab pathar se denge, doodh mango kheer denge, India has never been the aggressor blah blah blah.

Always thinking in reply to an action, never thinking of taking the initiative and actually killing the threat even before it becomes one.

Fear of loss and face is also very high due to the way politics works in India and due to the pacifist culture as well, so don't instigate and status quo works best.

India suffers from lot of misplaces idealism and values which haven't been taught correctly and it can be seen in the way we do business as well as compared to other juggernauts and giant companies from USA and China.

The vision, the aggression, the risk taking is just not matched or just too few. Many like to work for these countries or companies rather than take the pains to create and rarely have to ability to capture and dominate markets.

All this btw is only because some green swine doing al-taqqiya with the username of some member from 10 years ago, pretending to be said member and also pretending an Arya Samaj, RSS-simp and Yogi-premi makes a few posts spreading FUD in this thread.

Just a couple of posts from an infiltrator and most forum walas are pretty hardcore in terms of dealing with all this.

Imagine such a spreader of cowarditis in the more mainstream WA groups or Twitter or FB during wartime

 

[shade2]

Hope more info is released on the reason for agreeing to Chinese proposal of turning the page.

1. Chinkus will not leave occupied areas unless removed by force, Govt does not want such escalation
2. Apple and other foreign MNC manufacturers want Chinku suppliers to setup shop in India and also want Chinku engineers and technicians for initial setup of factories and training of new employees so they are pressuring Govt to allow this.

Banning their cheeni apps wasn't a smokescreen btw, it was the only thing they could do to show that "action" is being taken without any bad blowback affecting India like say if they banned all the chini phone vendors like Oppo, Vivo, Xiaomi which already had assembly plants etc here.

 

[hurrians]

Satellite pics show new Chinese settlement under construction near Pangong Lake

Satellite imagery accessed by India Today shows significant Chinese construction activity, 38 km from the 2020 standoff point, raising fresh concerns over border infrastructure.

www.indiatoday.in

 

[shade2]

While Justinder Castro is doing ungli to Bharat at the behest of his Super Power master, China is doing this

China deploys record 125 warplanes in large scale military drill in warning to Taiwan

China punishes Taiwan's President for rejecting sovereignty claim, deploying record 125 aircraft in military exercises around Taiwan.

www.thehindu.com

Taiwan reports surrounded by 153 Chinese military aircraft during drills

Exercises raise regional tension warns Taipei; US slams war games as it launches drills with Philippines.

www.aljazeera.com

Uncle Sam ko peeche se cheeti aati hai woh dikh jata hai, aage se haathi jata hai par woh nahi dikhta

 

[hurrians]

To let China invest in India or not—an old economic problem has struck policymakers again

PM Modi has sought to incentivise manufacturing in India through PLI schemes, but the components have come mainly from China, with Indian companies only engaged in assembling.

theprint.in

Considering the abrahamic wests tantrums as evidenced by their princling trudue, it seems nothing wrong in having more chai biscuit sessions with chicoms.

But the Chinese should atleast make a video as the Sputnik has.

 

[shade2]

To let China invest in India or not—an old economic problem has struck policymakers again

PM Modi has sought to incentivise manufacturing in India through PLI schemes, but the components have come mainly from China, with Indian companies only engaged in assembling.

theprint.in

Considering the abrahamic wests tantrums as evidenced by their princling trudue, it seems nothing wrong in having more chai biscuit sessions with chicoms.

But the Chinese should atleast make a video as the Sputnik has.

The reason for chai biscoot sessions with chinku vs not taking a kinectic approach , aside from the gulf in military capabilities is precisely because of gora-gandus regular antics.

Gora's masti -e- gaand and Ungli is also the reason Rooskie and Chini who were frenemies earlier are now langoti yaars.

A time may come where we may need to break gora's ungli and shove it up his bund, it is that time where we need to close the chinku front, can't fight both at the same time.

 

[hurrians]

As you said -It would be prudent to give Russia it's due credit , although it may seem that Russia is dependent on China but they share a border and Russians are no fool to blindly lap up to the Chinese.

Regarding chai biscoot sessions it was a mutual requirement, both wanted to have it. So called gulf in economy and military capabilities are true ,but the Chinese are no fool to take on India in a full fledged war.

 

[Screambowl]

Chinkis are busy creating villages on LAC to populate them and claim the land, and then we have chutiyas of the highest order who are busy preparing escape plans before the start of a war.

The chinese government is spending the money not the people from their pocket. Where as people have invested more in far away region as their main investment. The PLA is relocating them forcefully and have 1.99 billion dollars for this every year.

Tibet to invest 1.99 bn dollars in improving conditions of villages along LAC: Report

The Tibetan review said most of the border defence villages in recent years have been built in environmentally forbidding areas by forcefully relocating Tibetan farmers in Xiaokang (well-off) villages, some of them in areas claimed by India and Bhutan.

economictimes.indiatimes.com

In the desolate and inhospitable Himalayas, China is constructing and expanding hundreds of “xiaokang” (小康) villages along its hotly disputed border with India.1 These villages, often accompanied by military and dual-use infrastructure, are an important “gray zone” tool enabling China to assert and defend its claims near disputed areas.

China Is Upgrading Dual-Use Villages along Its Disputed Indian Border | ChinaPower Project

Commercial satellite images provide a glimpse into China’s development of dual-use villages along its disputed border with India.

chinapower.csis.org

The difference is, they are bringing in military people into the villages. And here we have members wanting families to settle. Damn!!

 

[rockdog]

Mighty Dragon - China's expanding fleet of next gen J-20s
...
Over 11 months, from July 2023 to May 2024, the PLAAF inducted more than 70 J-20s according to Janes assessments made using satellite imagery.
...

Mighty Dragon - China's expanding fleet of next gen J-20s

The Chinese People's Liberation Army Air Force (PLAAF) has equipped additional combat units with the Chengdu J-20 'Mighty Dragon' fifth-generation stealth fighter.

www.janes.com

 

[Azaad]

Mighty Dragon - China's expanding fleet of next gen J-20s
...
Over 11 months, from July 2023 to May 2024, the PLAAF inducted more than 70 J-20s according to Janes assessments made using satellite imagery.
...

Mighty Dragon - China's expanding fleet of next gen J-20s

The Chinese People's Liberation Army Air Force (PLAAF) has equipped additional combat units with the Chengdu J-20 'Mighty Dragon' fifth-generation stealth fighter.

www.janes.com

The Quad has already estimated PLAAF would've about 1200-1500 copies of J-20 by 2032 & are preparing accordingly.