Indo-China Border & LAC

[karn]

Bro I am not kidding. What % of India lives in high-rise metropolitans or bustling cities really ? A tiny fraction only.

Instead of dharma & culture kanging, our generation must focus on ruthless economy + military building.

This chart tells you the fundamental problem of India -

Uneducated dehati chapris will always vote for caste + freebies politics. They will drag the country down no matter how much dharma or culture maxxing you do.

Once we have our economy and military sorted, go fullpower on culture and dharma influence. Nobody listens to a poor broke man.

Sigh ... you are taking extreme views ..
The random pic of an east asian village and one from a poor area was in very poor taste.
and now you are talking about highrises. I can go and find nice looking villages with little trouble in southern India (I only say southern India because I live here lol)which is far from 5% of the country.
And since you are talking about economy and military ...
You do realise that the US at anytime can and has pressured its lapdogs to give major concessions on economic terms and as the security provider has the final say in their military as well .
Did china need to present its bum to the US to become developed ?
The folks talking about cultural stuff are merely pointing out the end state of such a large US influence on a country .

 

[Screambowl]

PM, Xi To Hold Bilateral Meet At BRICS, Days After Border Breakthrough

Prime Minister Narendra Modi will hold a bilateral meet with Chinese President Xi Jinping on the sidelines of the BRICS summit in Russia on Tuesday, Foreign Secretary Vikram Misri has said.

www.ndtv.com

Hope there's no metaphorical Nariyal Paani chutiyapa again.

Exactly after that nariyal pani mehfil Chinese got to know about strategic value of Tamil Nadu and Xi ordered their spy vessels to keep eyes on southern India. LOL Now due to some Landrus in BJP only every now and then a Chinese spy vessels is seen docked in Bay of Bengal.

********************************************************************. Yeh kardenge wo kardenge. Thankfully Ajit Doval is there who is cleaning the mess spread by these landrus.

 

[Azaad]

Fucking dhandhos
But then again it's from Al-Jizzeera

Jaljira quoting joker Kuggu, lmao. Proper clown to clown conversation. In reality, nobody really has a clue - the incumbents maintain tight control over their internal decision making.

Reasons from our side vary from stabilising the border to getting the Americans off our back thereby reducing their leverage & improving our bargaining position on a host of other issues especially in the light of what's recently transpired between us & the US & Canada , to getting Chinese expertise not necessarily their investment in sorting out our mfg capabilities thereby reducing our dependence on China in critical sectors.

Motivations on the part of the Chinese probably include patching up with India so as not to increase the number of nations inimical to it , to preventing more close co operation within the Quad to other unknown factors as of now . It could also be that partial goals of what they attempted in 2020 may have been met.

Let's not forget their tactics of salami slicing especially as far as India goes would be to occupy 2-3 such spots then vacate 1 or 2 & occupy the 3rd on a permanent basis thus altering the reality there forever. What exactly the contours of the agreement we've reached with them will be known in due course of time . In any case all or most of the buffer zones have been established in our areas of influence not necessarily our side of the LAC.

Bottom line still remains what it was earlier - both the Chinese & the US are threats with the former being the more immediate one & the latter the long term & both aren't to be trusted.

 

[Suryavanshi]

95% of India lives in these type of infra -

Random village in SoKo / Japan / Taiwan colonialised / heavily influenced by America -

And you want to tell me preserving our culture is our utmost priority and not economic prosperity ?

You posted photo of a village in soko Japan

Here is how 95% of Japan lives.

Ain't something too hi fi. If the Indian photo had concrete road and markings as well as better construction on individual buildings than it wouldn't be much differnet than Japan.

Here is where top 10% of kolkata lives. Per capita income 2700 $ and planned city Salt Lake.

This is how top 20 to 30% of Chnadiagrh lives.



Per capita income 4700$ planner city Chandigarh.



This is how top 5% of Patna lives.

Per capita of 1700$ Semi planned city Kankarbagh.



How urban indian looks is a product of its failed city planning. Even though Philadelphia streets are full of garbage and crumbling infra it would still look better than India because of city planning with symmetry and harmony.

 

[mist_consecutive]

We are gonna get KLPDed so hard by Chinese that Nehru is gonna laugh from his grave.

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[MasterChief]

kind of a vague confirmation by Chinese in their briefing without any specifics.

“The two sides reached resolutions on relevant matters. China will work with India to implement those”


View: https://x.com/chellaney/status/1848686461404545435?s=46

There would have been no announcement of a patrolling accord from Modi Gov.. if there was no such accord..
It was 20 Indian soldiers that were killed, and China that broke previous agreements.. So, it is Modi who needa to justify to the Indian public as to why hi is now meeting Xi..

 

[Vinash]

We are gonna get KLPDed so hard by Chinese that Nehru is gonna laugh from his grave.

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What other way do you see?

If gora scum are going to create such a huge issue over a lowly thug like Nijjer, it's obvious they have nothing but 100% bad intent towards us.

I'll trust the Chinks over Americunts any day. Obviouly we need to be careful and not trust CCP blindly.

 

[crazywithmath]

If gora scum are going to create such a huge issue over a lowly thug like Nijjer, it's obvious they have nothing but 100% bad intent towards us.

I'll trust the Chinks over Americunts any day. Obviouly we need to be careful and not trust CCP blindly.

Goras are salty because R&AW is running amok in their own backyard. Nijjars and Pannuns are useful idiots.

Chinkus will strike again, btw - just like @mist_consecutive predicted. And in the mean time, they would absolutely love to flood the Indian market with their cheap subsidized exports (given the amount of stimuli their gormint is pumping in their bid to escape some severe economic crisis, India can be a perfect dumping ground for them).

 

[karn]

What other way do you see?

If gora scum are going to create such a huge issue over a lowly thug like Nijjer, it's obvious they have nothing but 100% bad intent towards us.

I'll trust the Chinks over Americunts any day. Obviouly we need to be careful and not trust CCP blindly.

Why these mood swings ? chinese will 100% try infiltration again and then we will be back to loving the quad. In the end monkey balancing is our future until we industrialise and attain energy security.

 

[Azaad]

Goras are salty because R&AW is running amok in their own backyard. Nijjars and Pannuns are useful idiots.

Chinkus will strike again, btw - just like @mist_consecutive predicted. And in the mean time, they would absolutely love to flood the Indian market with their cheap subsidized exports (given the amount of stimuli their gormint is pumping in their bid to escape some severe economic crisis, India can be a perfect dumping ground for them).

But I don't understand why would a deal on the LAC be predicated on the Chinese flooding our markets with their wares ? If we really were so suicidal we'd have signed up on the RCEP.

Rather the Chinese may have consented to the detente in the hope we'd be more open to their goods. I'd say we may even have hinted at granting them access in exchange for a border agreement without getting into specifics.

The Indian side may have as usual refused to have been cornered on this telling the Chinese all such discussions on specifics would succeed not precede a border agreement sticking to our earlier stand best articulated by Jaishankar that the state of our relationship will be determined by the state of affairs on the border.

Will there be concessions ? I would think so which in turn would be linked to the expertise the Chinese would be willing to share in terms of personnel & know how in certain sectors like solar panels , cellphone mfg etc . in lieu of which there would be some trade offs.

Just as whatever trust there existed which arguably wasn't much to begin with disappeared in 2020 with those days never returning why should it be too different as far as trade ties goes ?

 

[sameer]

But I don't understand why would a deal on the LAC be predicated on the Chinese flooding our markets with their wares ? If we really were so suicidal we'd have signed up on the RCEP.

Rather the Chinese may have consented to the detente in the hope we'd be more open to their goods. I'd say we may even have hinted at granting them access in exchange for a border agreement without getting into specifics.

The Indian side may have as usual refused to have been cornered on this telling the Chinese all such discussions on specifics would succeed not precede a border agreement sticking to our earlier stand best articulated by Jaishankar that the state of our relationship will be determined by the state of affairs on the border.

Will there be concessions ? I would think so which in turn would be linked to the expertise the Chinese would be willing to share in terms of personnel & know how in certain sectors like solar panels , cellphone mfg etc . in lieu of which there would be some trade offs.

Just as whatever trust there existed which arguably wasn't much to begin with disappeared in 2020 with those days never returning why should it be too different as far as trade ties goes ?

I believe China wants an off ramp due to their economic slowdown/unemployment issues. Their EV's are pretty much dead on arrival in North America due to the 100% import tax and EU is also upping the ante with tariffs. Same with their solar panels. Moreover, if Trump comes in, he's threatening 60% tariffs on all Chinese goods and pretty much a relentless onslaught on the Cheeni economy by the Yanks.

There are no other big global markets aren't big enough to absorb the overproduction. That leaves them out with India which is a stable long term market.

Basically, CCP China needs to be thought of as a vulture that feeds off of weakness. 2019-2020 were arguably some of the worse years for India in recent history: the farm law protests, CAA protests & riots, Pulwama attacks, Art 370 repeal, covid crushing our economy etc etc. Cheena most likely thought that was the right time to hit us.

Now that the (relative) power differential has come down, China wants to make a compromise and step back.

I just hope GOI is careful this time and doesn't let them flood our country with goods. Any JV's should have tot.

 

[sameer]

What other way do you see?

If gora scum are going to create such a huge issue over a lowly thug like Nijjer, it's obvious they have nothing but 100% bad intent towards us.

I'll trust the Chinks over Americunts any day. Obviouly we need to be careful and not trust CCP blindly.

Both of them are dangerous but in different ways: China remains an immediate threat on the border, while America will always be a long term civilizational/cultural threat on the horizon.

Once can argue either one of them is more dangerous..I'd say its 50-50.

For now both relationships need to be managed carefully. Next 1-2 decades will probably be the most crucial for us. The way it looks like: the yanks are very much interested in turning us into another Ukraine.

 

[hurrians]

Fucking dhandhos
But then again it's from Al-Jizzeera

"Industry executives said the government took cognisance of the ongoing issues"

India China trade: Electronics makers all charged up as India-China tensions ease - The Economic Times

With tensions easing between India and China, the Indian electronics manufacturing sector anticipates faster technology transfers, investments, and capital movement from Chinese companies. Industry executives believe improved political relations will positively impact business and foster...

m.economictimes.com

New Delhi’s business community for goods and specialised manpower from across the border, and its ambitions of becoming a manufacturing hub have played a big role in the progressive shift.



"The easing also helps China. With its economy slowing down, domestic consumption throttled, and regions such as the European Union and the United States pushing protectionist tariffs against the country, Beijing’s trade relationship with India — which has a big domestic market — becomes all the more important for them."

Govt looks at options as business mounts pressure for China dealings again

Meanwhile, India’s exports to China have remained stagnant while imports have soared. Last month, External Affairs Minister S Jaishankar said Indian goods do not have the same market access in China as Chinese products enjoy in India.

indianexpress.com

https://www.business-standard.com/companies/news/adani-group-s-solar-firm-seeks-visas-for-vendors-chinese-workers-124062801138_1.html

Murmurs were there for long immediate trigger maybe so called corporates considered close to corridors of power lobbying and or genuine desire for thaw as the trade(aka import) has only increased since 2020, with so many pli scheme , the level of screwdrivergiri has become more complex and advanced.

 

[hurrians]

Investigation opened into Swiss encryption firm linked to CIA

The Swiss government has opened an investigation into a decades-old spying affair involving Swiss firm Crypto.

www.swissinfo.ch

Most electronic communication can be broken into by cia/nsa , raa procures snooping equipment from western manufacturers.


Although backers and funders of the democrats and republicans have different objectives wrt India including but not limited to soul harvesting,muh democracy,muh hooman rights, minority oppression, hindu nationalism etc

However the present dispensation is the one that has signed the most foundational agreement with USA, congress not withstanding rauljis present tendency of bad mouthing India in usa was firmly aligned with Russia/USSR while in power .

Regarding Russian oil usa is not foolish , it will disrupt the entire world economy, refined Russian oil is sold to Europeans , although we are the largest crude importers but we are also a major exporter of refined products. So all pressure on oil may have been lelis in us deep state believing their own propaganda, but when faced with facts they have done course correction.

China and usa co-operate on their own, so India is in no dream that it can hedge one against the other.

 

[hurrians]

People fail to appreciate the fact how gora sahib (America) has handled the pannun saga tactfully, it has allowed moodiji to save face by sacrificing a lower-rung official, it has also deflected e-sainiks ire on canada while insulating it's own relationship and cooperation with India.

The alleged rouge agent had contacted undercover dea/fbi agent which comes under doj while nsa/cia it seems are not under doj.

Sauce: rumint