Indo US Relations

[crazywithmath]

what a $hit show the man child has managed to drag three countries into, thank fully the current govt is adept at and has the will to light counterfires to prevent the forest fire from engulfing us.

Nah, man. This thing has escalated a bit too much, things are being coordinated by Murican deep state only - the man child is nothing but a proxy whose political calculations just happened to align well with their plot and to top it off, he had some personal scores to settle too. The hitjobs the GoI is planting across the Indian media are pretty clear on this;

The big picture emerging from the Nijjar-Pannun affair is that the West is wary of the rise of India as an economic and military powerhouse. Like China, it would prefer India to remain a regional power.

Trudeau is just an agent provocateur. After the restoration of peace in Jammu and Kashmir post abrogation of Article 370, the West and India’s other adversaries cannot let go of Khalistani leverage over the Modi government. The fingerprints of Western intelligence agencies, who have the largest presence in huge embassies in New Delhi, can be seen in so-called farmers’ agitation, communal instigation through social media, and shoring up the Opposition against the Modi government.

That India’s rise will be contested by other powers was evident when even a close ally like Japan used its UN envoy to take potshots at Indian democracy and its media carped about Modi’s failed foreign policy in the neighborhood.

This is because Indian intelligence still feeds on scraps from their associates in the West rather than building capacities and capabilities in China, Pakistan, and the West. The Nijjar-Pannun case is just the beginning as it is in nobody’s interest to see India sit on the global high table.

Now as is the case with pretty much every geopolitical affair out there - it is not all black and white. The Apples and First Solars of Burgerland will keep pouring billions in India because these dudes will be more than happy to industrialize India at cheen's cost. But that does not mean that the deep state will stop fingering us - in a way the classic carrot and stick strategy; if I say so myself.

 

[Miss Firing]

Time for India to revisit ties with the West, not just Canada

Slowly but surely, India is slipping into the third stage of the Western pressure tactic, starting with the US—and also ending with the US. Once into it, there may be no turning back for New Delhi

www.firstpost.com

(Long read)

Time for India to revisit ties with the West, not just Canada​

 

[Azaad]

Nah, man. This thing has escalated a bit too much, things are being coordinated by Murican deep state only - the man child is nothing but a proxy whose political calculations just happened to align well with their plot and to top it off, he had some personal scores to settle too. The hitjobs the GoI is planting across the Indian media are pretty clear on this;

Which is precisely the reason I'm advocating our response to Canada must be disproportionate. If Canada's calculated they don't have much to lose why're we being reticent ?

Cut off all diplomatic & trade ties with Canada. There's virtually nothing they produce which we can't get from another part of the world & the turnover of trade volume is insignificant which I argue is the reason we can be adventurous especially after they've given ample indications this isn't the end of it & given their track record from last year I see no reason they won't act on it especially since Turdeau political position is going to get worse in the days to come.

If you want to send a message to the 5i's , the west & the rest of the world about FAFO , Canada's the best place to start. Kill a chicken to scare the monkeys is how the Chinese put it. Else we'd forever be in reaction mode & pat ourselves on our back for our reactions which even a nation like Papua New Guinea would undertake if they were subjected to it .

 

[hurrians]

https://www.reuters.com/world/india/indian-ex-official-indicted-by-us-dismisses-allegations-family-says-2024-10-20/

 

[hurrians]

A judicial or retired judge enquiry commission to enquire
.khalistan support -past and present by gora sahibs
.list of gora politicians, bureaucrat's past and present fanning Khali terrorism
.list of terrorist hiding in goraland and extradition requests pending
. transnational attempts by gora sahibs in India's internal affairs through their embassies

All these details are currently available in a scattered form, need to have a single authoritative report


Or else

Turn the page and meet gora sahib midway and keep khali issues at its appropriate place.

 

[Cheepek]

Nah, man. This thing has escalated a bit too much, things are being coordinated by Murican deep state only - the man child is nothing but a proxy whose political calculations just happened to align well with their plot and to top it off, he had some personal scores to settle too. The hitjobs the GoI is planting across the Indian media are pretty clear on this;







Now as is the case with pretty much every geopolitical affair out there - it is not all black and white. The Apples and First Solars of Burgerland will keep pouring billions in India because these dudes will be more than happy to industrialize India at cheen's cost. But that does not mean that the deep state will stop fingering us - in a way the classic carrot and stick strategy; if I say so myself.

That Japanese article came in response to this

India does not share Japanese PM Shigeru Ishiba’s view of ‘Asian NATO’, says Jaishankar

External Affairs Minister Jaishankar rejects the idea of an 'Asian NATO' to deter China, emphasizing India's unique strategic approach.

www.thehindu.com

More than potshot at Indian democracy, it shows Japan's frustration that even though it has been spending shit ton of money in the region from decades; it is still considered a political lightweight by everyone. There is probably not a single country in whole of Asia that would choose Japan over China (it's principal adversary), even when outspending them.


View: https://x.com/sidhant/status/1840223255044731195

 

[shade2]

That Japanese article came in response to this

India does not share Japanese PM Shigeru Ishiba’s view of ‘Asian NATO’, says Jaishankar

External Affairs Minister Jaishankar rejects the idea of an 'Asian NATO' to deter China, emphasizing India's unique strategic approach.

www.thehindu.com

More than potshot at Indian democracy, it shows Japan's frustration that even though it has been spending shit ton of money in the region from decades; it is still considered a political lightweight by everyone. There is probably not a single country in whole of Asia that would choose Japan over China (it's principal adversary), even when outspending them.


View: https://x.com/sidhant/status/1840223255044731195

They are a geopolitical lightweight because they are a slave of Uncle Sam thanks to giving their US their bum in WW2.
I say slave and not vassal because Korea is more of a vassal, Germany, Japan are literal ghulams.

I then don't get why are they "frustrated" about this? It is like a eunuch being "furstrated" because he can't fuck womenz?


The rationale the SEA nations apply in chosing between Japan and China is the same in the Telebunnies wanting to negotiate with the US and not with the ANA Govt puppets, so the choice is between US and China, better deal with US directly.

 

[MasterChief]

Looks like US was planning to arrest Samant Goel, and it was narrowly avoided..
Goel children in US ?


View: https://x.com/clary_co/status/1847939179038060698?t=64d4u5V-fyeMTqz0Bp4uBg&s=19

 

[shade2]

Looks like US was planning to arrest Samant Goel, and it was narrowly avoided..
Goel children in US ?


View: https://x.com/clary_co/status/1847939179038060698?t=64d4u5V-fyeMTqz0Bp4uBg&s=19

Why would they want to arrest their own asset though?

Surely these children have US university degrees, green card and $200k/year job at the Fortune 500 or are on the way to do so?

 

[MasterChief]

Why would they want to arrest their own asset though?

Surely these children have US university degrees, green card and $200k/year job at the Fortune 500 or are on the way to do so?

Samant Goel is retired.. and cannot be an asset anymore

 

[hurrians]

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Gora sahib - ebil moody, peaceful protestor, so we support khalis under garb of un NGO to fuel separatism in Bharat.

Gora sahib - dealing with so called peaceful protest in his own land



View: https://youtu.be/aW00Va3Lz0g

 

[DingDong]

That Japanese article came in response to this

India does not share Japanese PM Shigeru Ishiba’s view of ‘Asian NATO’, says Jaishankar

External Affairs Minister Jaishankar rejects the idea of an 'Asian NATO' to deter China, emphasizing India's unique strategic approach.

www.thehindu.com

More than potshot at Indian democracy, it shows Japan's frustration that even though it has been spending shit ton of money in the region from decades; it is still considered a political lightweight by everyone. There is probably not a single country in whole of Asia that would choose Japan over China (it's principal adversary), even when outspending them.


View: https://x.com/sidhant/status/1840223255044731195

Back in the late 1980s, Japan accounted for around 70% of Asia's total GDP. China's GDP was only 10% of Japan's GDP. However even during it's glory days, Japan did not have substantial influence over the regional countries.

Japan and South Korea might be rich but these countries are mostly viewed as the US' "client states". Plus, both these countries are extremely xenophobic. This xenophobia is not restricted within their national borders, they export their "dogmas" and expect their associates and employees in the foreign lands to follow their ways.

Investment and trade are not sufficient in Geo-politics. Britain was the largest trading partner of the Nazi Germany and then WW2 happened.

 

[sameer]

Samant Goel is retired.. and cannot be an asset anymore

Even retired officers can reveal plenty about RAW internal operations. Either he'll accept a plea deal where he's forced to reveal everything or stay in jail for a long time.

 

[DingDong]

Even retired officers can reveal plenty about RAW internal operations. Either he'll accept a plea deal where he's forced to reveal everything or stay in jail for a long time.

How to keep a secret? Don't tell your boss.
High level officials are mostly involved in taking the policy decisions. The middle level officers are the ones who have access to the juicy details.

 

[Suryavanshi]

Aren't these officers with foreign settled family members a liability? Or is there a bigger picture that we can't see? Maybe those family members act as a asset to India?
Too far fetched imo.
Does the same happen with other countries? China perhaps?
Most BJP netas children are also Foreign educated or settled in foren.

Is this sustainable?

 

[crazywithmath]

Does the same happen with other countries? China perhaps?

Yes. Russians too.

https://www.business-standard.com/article/international/xi-jinping-s-daughter-xi-mingze-living-in-america-says-us-senator-hartzler-122022101048_1.html

 

[MasterChief]

Why would they want to arrest their own asset though?

Surely these children have US university degrees, green card and $200k/year job at the Fortune 500 or are on the way to do so?

Samant Goel is accused by American Intel of giving the go ahead for the Pannun plot

 

[shade2]

Samant Goel is accused by American Intel of giving the go ahead for the Pannun plot

So he's not an asset that's why they wanted to bag him ? perhaps to interrogate for classified Raa infos?
Very big escalation if they actually wanted to arrest him.

 

[DingDong]

Aren't these officers with foreign settled family members a liability? Or is there a bigger picture that we can't see? Maybe those family members act as a asset to India?
Too far fetched imo.
Does the same happen with other countries? China perhaps?
Most BJP netas children are also Foreign educated or settled in foren.

Is this sustainable?

IMO, this works both ways. Depends on which side is the better player.

For example, they have successfully used the expats to exert undue influence and engineer regime changes in Africa and several other countries (e.g. Pakistan, Bangladesh).

However, India, Russia, Israel, and China have been using their "diaspora" effectively. The reason might be that people from these countries tend to flock together, and maintain a positive/beneficial relation with their countries of origin.

 

[shade2]

IMO, this works both ways. Depends on which side is the better player.

For example, they have successfully used the expats to exert undue influence and engineer regime changes in Africa and several other countries (e.g. Pakistan, Bangladesh).

However, India, Russia, Israel, and China have been using their "diaspora" effectively. The reason might be that people from these countries tend to flock together, and maintain a positive/beneficial relation with their countries of origin.

China def makes better use of it's diaspora, can't say the same about Russia or our fellows