Russian Ukrainian War

[Akim]

I read it and laughed out loud: "Putin plays by the rules", "Putin loves Ukrainians".
Probably that's why Modi saved the Indians who had listened to propaganda nonsense, and reality showed that they were wrong.
He is so humane that he sends his soldiers to the front lines with crutches. You will find the photos of corpses with medical canes yourself. (I don't like to repost such things).

View: https://x.com/front_ukrainian/status/1832693307333296246

 

[WW2historian]

There is a fresh video, when an old man in Kursk region was surprised to learn that in front of him was not an American soldier from NATO, but a Ukrainian paratrooper from Zhitomir. He does not know what is happening behind his "fence", how can you know what is happening thousands of kilometers away.
In both cases, I did not support Maidan. Only in 2004 Russia did not interfere and the "revolutionary elements" died down after 8 months. In 2014, it interfered and the war has been going on for 10 years now.

View: https://x.com/Alla91748059/status/1834757225073479943

Did your Russian friends tell you about Russian sympathizers in Kherson?

View: https://x.com/bbcrussian/status/1500092521392873477

I need more context. I do see it was posted 2 weeks after the SMO, but was this rally before the SMO started?
Also, Russia interfered in 2014? So did the US. Since it involved an illegal coup that effected ethnic Russians living in Ukraine, Russia was just in interfering. However the USA had no right, because it was none of their fucking business.

 

[WW2historian]

I read it and laughed out loud: "Putin plays by the rules", "Putin loves Ukrainians".
Probably that's why Modi saved the Indians who had listened to propaganda nonsense, and reality showed that they were wrong.
He is so humane that he sends his soldiers to the front lines with crutches. You will find the photos of corpses with medical canes yourself. (I don't like to repost such things).

View: https://x.com/front_ukrainian/status/1832693307333296246

I see you have too stoop down to this pathetic level as a distraction for the disaster unfolding on the whole front line? Lies and pity won't work, and there will be no elections in Ukraine. Zelensky is looking more and more like Hitler everyday. I do wonder if he will swallow a cyanide capsule just before shooting himself in the head. Maybe he will also order his body burned.

 

[Akim]

I need more context. I do see it was posted 2 weeks after the SMO, but was this rally before the SMO started?
Also, Russia interfered in 2014? So did the US. Since it involved an illegal coup that effected ethnic Russians living in Ukraine, Russia was just in interfering. However the USA had no right, because it was none of their fucking business.

I already gave you an example: There were many Englishmen in the colonies and Britain considered North America its "cash cow", but the colonists did not want this and created a new state.
I am always amazed by the descendants of the colonists (in particular India).
It is none of Russia's or D.J. Vanse's business how we use our sovereignty. Now we will do after the war as in Czechoslovakia in 1947: Anyone who wants to live in Russia - a kick in the ass and let them develop Siberia.

 

[Akim]

I see you have too stoop down to this pathetic level as a distraction for the disaster unfolding on the whole front line? Lies and pity won't work, and there will be no elections in Ukraine. Zelensky is looking more and more like Hitler everyday. I do wonder if he will swallow a cyanide capsule just before shooting himself in the head. Maybe he will also order his body burned.

And there will be no elections in 2025. Until we win the war, there will be no elections. What catastrophe are you talking about? I'm just eating pierogi with mushrooms and reading on my phone. There's food, there's water, I called the vet for the cat today. The city infrastructure is fully operational. Weapons production has increased 6-fold. What catastrophe are you babbling about? About the Russians not moving near Pokrovsk or how they got trapped near Glushkovo?

 

[Boiled_AnDa]

Until we win the war,

Can you please leave a slight hint for how you are gona win it?
You are fully dependent on 'Allies' for the main course of weapons and on their mercy to use those. You don't even have that privilege to dictate the terms and conditions of even the items already supplied to you! yet.
Don't take me wrong, but the question arises naturally.
* You are asking for more AD systems every alternate day.
* You are asking more Air dominance fighters.
* You are asking financial package to even pay the salaries.
* You are asking armored fighting vehicles.
* You are asking JDAM/JSSAM to155 to 105 mm every kind of shells from every country possible.
* You are asking more tanks more towed artt.
* You are asking for more foreign volunteers, direct involvement of parties(NATO) yet not involved.
* You are asking your allies to shoot down the incoming russian projectiles on your behest.
* You don't have any satellite guidance of military garde on your own, your allies course- correct every guided projectile you fire.
* From even gun /ammo to boots, a vast part of items necessary are donated from surplus or about to be expired funds of US/NATO. ( guess you had some 300k surplus AK storred part partition )
If you assume every tank/striker/ ceser/crab/142~270/ APC etc etc lost will be replaced by the so called allies for just free, I think that demand is bit far fetched. Nothing comes for free, everyone is eyeing your resources on and under the soil, be it russia or West.

Telling every one that ' I have a plan for victory' while failing to implement anything remotely at corner to win the frontline is two different aspect.

* 'WE' can see Russia is losing everything from manpower to machine power at an alarming rate, but so do you too at their same level if not less, while having resources/manpower 1/10 of them.

We wish you to win and enjoy your liberty too. But the reality seems to be bit harsh on ground. That's true too.

 

[Akim]

Can you please leave a slight hint for how you are gona win it?
You are fully dependent on 'Allies' for the main course of weapons and on their mercy to use those. You don't even have that privilege to dictate the terms and conditions of even the items already supplied to you! yet.
Don't take me wrong, but the question arises naturally.
* You are asking for more AD systems every alternate day.
* You are asking more Air dominance fighters.
* You are asking financial package to even pay the salaries.
* You are asking armored fighting vehicles.
* You are asking JDAM/JSSAM to155 to 105 mm every kind of shells from every country possible.
* You are asking more tanks more towed artt.
* You are asking for more foreign volunteers, direct involvement of parties(NATO) yet not involved.
* You are asking your allies to shoot down the incoming russian projectiles on your behest.
* You don't have any satellite guidance of military garde on your own, your allies course- correct every guided projectile you fire.
* From even gun /ammo to boots, a vast part of items necessary are donated from surplus or about to be expired funds of US/NATO. ( guess you had some 300k surplus AK storred part partition )
If you assume every tank/striker/ ceser/crab/142~270/ APC etc etc lost will be replaced by the so called allies for just free, I think that demand is bit far fetched. Nothing comes for free, everyone is eyeing your resources on and under the soil, be it russia or West.

Telling every one that ' I have a plan for victory' while failing to implement anything remotely at corner to win the frontline is two different aspect.

* 'WE' can see Russia is losing everything from manpower to machine power at an alarming rate, but so do you too at their same level if not less, while having resources/manpower 1/10 of them.

We wish you to win and enjoy your liberty too. But the reality seems to be bit harsh on ground. That's true too.

You are mistaken if you think that this war is like a runny nose for Russia.


Explain to me: what is the point of this ridiculous comparison of the confrontation between two armies? They haven't fought like this for ages.
Regarding natural resources: I said that I haven't seen any major investments in Donbass. But the small town of Ukrainsk, where fighting is currently taking place, was slowly turning into a ghost town, because no one needed it with its Soviet economy.

 

[Bumrah]

Can you please leave a slight hint for how you are gona win it?
You are fully dependent on 'Allies' for the main course of weapons and on their mercy to use those. You don't even have that privilege to dictate the terms and conditions of even the items already supplied to you! yet.
Don't take me wrong, but the question arises naturally.
* You are asking for more AD systems every alternate day.
* You are asking more Air dominance fighters.
* You are asking financial package to even pay the salaries.
* You are asking armored fighting vehicles.
* You are asking JDAM/JSSAM to155 to 105 mm every kind of shells from every country possible.
* You are asking more tanks more towed artt.
* You are asking for more foreign volunteers, direct involvement of parties(NATO) yet not involved.
* You are asking your allies to shoot down the incoming russian projectiles on your behest.
* You don't have any satellite guidance of military garde on your own, your allies course- correct every guided projectile you fire.
* From even gun /ammo to boots, a vast part of items necessary are donated from surplus or about to be expired funds of US/NATO. ( guess you had some 300k surplus AK storred part partition )
If you assume every tank/striker/ ceser/crab/142~270/ APC etc etc lost will be replaced by the so called allies for just free, I think that demand is bit far fetched. Nothing comes for free, everyone is eyeing your resources on and under the soil, be it russia or West.

Telling every one that ' I have a plan for victory' while failing to implement anything remotely at corner to win the frontline is two different aspect.

* 'WE' can see Russia is losing everything from manpower to machine power at an alarming rate, but so do you too at their same level if not less, while having resources/manpower 1/10 of them.

We wish you to win and enjoy your liberty too. But the reality seems to be bit harsh on ground. That's true too.

Well, Ukrainians have no mind of their own to apply. They are just puppets. Lack of brain and belief in imaginary things distant from reality. “We will defeat putler and all”.

Had Zelensky even tiniest of brain, he would have listened to Modi, and agreed to Negotiations. But there is no point talking to a puppet. Dogs listen only to their master who throw bones for them.

 

[Ultraman]

Can you please leave a slight hint for how you are gona win it?
You are fully dependent on 'Allies' for the main course of weapons and on their mercy to use those. You don't even have that privilege to dictate the terms and conditions of even the items already supplied to you! yet.
Don't take me wrong, but the question arises naturally.
* You are asking for more AD systems every alternate day.
* You are asking more Air dominance fighters.
* You are asking financial package to even pay the salaries.
* You are asking armored fighting vehicles.
* You are asking JDAM/JSSAM to155 to 105 mm every kind of shells from every country possible.
* You are asking more tanks more towed artt.
* You are asking for more foreign volunteers, direct involvement of parties(NATO) yet not involved.
* You are asking your allies to shoot down the incoming russian projectiles on your behest.
* You don't have any satellite guidance of military garde on your own, your allies course- correct every guided projectile you fire.
* From even gun /ammo to boots, a vast part of items necessary are donated from surplus or about to be expired funds of US/NATO. ( guess you had some 300k surplus AK storred part partition )
If you assume every tank/striker/ ceser/crab/142~270/ APC etc etc lost will be replaced by the so called allies for just free, I think that demand is bit far fetched. Nothing comes for free, everyone is eyeing your resources on and under the soil, be it russia or West.

Telling every one that ' I have a plan for victory' while failing to implement anything remotely at corner to win the frontline is two different aspect.

* 'WE' can see Russia is losing everything from manpower to machine power at an alarming rate, but so do you too at their same level if not less, while having resources/manpower 1/10 of them.

We wish you to win and enjoy your liberty too. But the reality seems to be bit harsh on ground. That's true too.

trying to grind down russian army and themselves to the point that Putin would agree to some reasonable deal .

or maybe with some luck there will be a coup in moscow . some one feeds Putin some polonium tea .

i think if Trump wins , there will be big change . maybe he will force Putin and Ukraine into a deal.

in any case its not like Russian army is blitzkrieging across ukraine now

1 year russian gain

 

[Vishnugupt]

trying to grind down russian army and themselves to the point that Putin would agree to some reasonable deal .

or maybe with some luck there will be a coup in moscow . some one feeds Putin some polonium tea .

i think if Trump wins , there will be big change . maybe he will force Putin and Ukraine into a deal.

in any case its not like Russian army is blitzkrieging across ukraine now

1 year russian gain

May be America have civil war in future? May be Ukrainian are being grind. May be Assassination could take place in USA, like happened with Trump?

So guessing is not a answer.

By the way, I would like to know how possibly Trump going to force Russia for a peace deal. Could you please explain little further??

 

[Boiled_AnDa]

trying to grind down russian army and themselves to the point that Putin would agree to some reasonable deal

Valid point. Russia losing the most important asset - manpower at a staggering rate now... but somehow they are trying / managing it with CCP soldiers disguised as marcs ( there were rumors that about 18k chinese marcs/ volunteers are in russia, getting ready). Also thanks to defensive pact, DPRK can now supply their never ending manpower train to russia thanks to kursk invasion.
There have been rumors from Turkish media that ukraine is too trying to add up their dwindling no with some Syrian group Hayat Tahrir al-Sham* (formerly Al-Qaeda* in the SAR).
So, if both sides manage to number up, the grinding can be prolonged upto 26 winter.
But the biggest 1 year russian gain in my opinion is-- the crack inside NATO and EU is now visible, and more and more stakeholders are now backtracking due to the continuous financial and military burden on them. If russia can drag on the conflict for 2 more autumns, the left parties interested might come under 10 counts.

Well, Ukrainians have no mind of their own to apply. They are just puppets. Lack of brain and belief in imaginary things distant from reality. “We will defeat putler and all”.

Had Zelensky even tiniest of brain, he would have listened to Modi, and agreed to Negotiations. But there is no point talking to a puppet. Dogs listen only to their master who throw bones for them.

Hate and pride can lead to unimaginable scenarios.

Explain to me: what is the point of this ridiculous comparison of the confrontation between two armies? They haven't fought like this for ages.

That's the same russia thought pre 22/2/22, that they are fighting a 1/10 th army to trump with their WW2 blitz screen tactics with miles long convoy.. but, soon got their 'pride' shuttered to oblivion with javelins.
Soon along with russia, rest of the world came to know that it was not 1, it was a conglomerate of 42 nations pumping their everything just against 1 nation to deter. From arms to media. So, Russia too found their allies in DPRK anc CCP and IRAN. They learnt the reality in bitter way and now, russia is adopting new tactics just to survive, same stands for ukraine too, you too learnt that offence is the best defence, even if it comes at heavy price toll.

Regarding natural resources: I said that I haven't seen any major investments in Donbass. But the small town of Ukrainsk, where fighting is currently taking place, was slowly turning into a ghost town, because no one needed it with its Soviet economy.

The light of urbanization and it's fruit as downfall of villages or small towns... No one wants to work and grind for minimum pay in mines or in cattle farms in village when same can be earned in city with much lesser effort... That's a common problem in all countries, specially in the western and peripheral ones.
People always move out to live at ease, and new people are brought in at times again and again to compensate the lost plowing hands....
Thats why the black slaves were introduced in US to work in farms/ plantation or Indians to certain pacific countries to replace or replenish the vacuum. Thats why now the migrant crisis is happening in West, as it has lost the willing hands to do the basic dirty works which rotates the wheel of society, thanks to declining total population expansion rate and fertility rate to maintain the workforce.

70 years past the middle east was like doormat to the rest of the world though having ocean of crude oil beneath their feet. And now, check, how they live... it's not for only presence of resource, the relevancy needed and technology availability to extract that resource scores a vital point too.

 

[Ultraman]

May be America have civil war in future? May be Ukrainian are being grind. May be Assassination could take place in USA, like happened with Trump?

So guessing is not a answer.

By the way, I would like to know how possibly Trump going to force Russia for a peace deal. Could you please explain little further??

an assassination already happened . remember wagners , an army started marching towards moscow , "coup" leader then died in plane crash . another coup attempt is not unthinkable . US is far more stable than Russia . when was last time there was armed rebellion there ?


Trump himself has said his plan is to push down oil price , force Putin to negotiate . i know he says a lot of bullshit so lets see

 

[Boiled_AnDa]

an assassination already happened . remember that an army started marching towards moscow , "coup" leader then died in plane crash . another coup attempt is not unthinkable .


Trump himself has said his plan is to push down oil price , force Putin to negotiate . i know he says a lot of bullshit so lets see

You think OPEC will dance with that line? US can extract oil inhouse for self utilization and price regulation in US. If US pushes much, they will loose more contracts for arms in ME.
added to that blister, free fund problem is the climate saving madness syndrome from dems forced the majority of those wells in US shut already making the owners bankrupt..

 

[Ultraman]

You think OPEC will dance with that line? US can extract oil inhouse for self utilization and price regulation in US. If US pushes much, they will loose more contracts for arms in ME.
added to that blister, free fund problem is the climate saving madness syndrome from dems forced the majority of those wells in US shut already making the owners bankrupt..

not sure how he is gonna do it , but thats what he is claiming , i dont mind , if it does happen , its good for us too .

Trump vows to halve energy costs in 12 months. Few see that happening.

Presidents have limited control over the global oil market, industry experts say, and any steep price drop could make it unprofitable for firms to “drill, baby, drill.”

www.nbcnews.com

 

[Akim]

The light of urbanization and it's fruit as downfall of villages or small towns... No one wants to work and grind for minimum pay in mines or in cattle farms in village when same can be earned in city with much lesser effort... That's a common problem in all countries, specially in the western and peripheral ones.
People always move out to live at ease, and new people are brought in at times again and again to compensate the lost plowing hands....
Thats why the black slaves were introduced in US to work in farms/ plantation or Indians to certain pacific countries to replace or replenish the vacuum. Thats why now the migrant crisis is happening in West, as it has lost the willing hands to do the basic dirty works which rotates the wheel of society, thanks to declining total population expansion rate and fertility rate to maintain the workforce.

70 years past the middle east was like doormat to the rest of the world though having ocean of crude oil beneath their feet. And now, check, how they live... it's not for only presence of resource, the relevancy needed and technology availability to extract that resource scores a vital point too.

That's right - technology. I was wrong when I said that it was a ghost town. There is a coal mine, an asphalt plant and small light industry enterprises. But where in Soviet times three workers were needed, now one person can cope. And the town withered. There are many such towns where people leave it.
When we restore Donbas (for Russian reparations), we will destroy the entire Soviet economy.
P.S. By the way. Agriculture brings in good money.

 

[maximus777]

Just wondering what the end goal is here. These high-tech GPS guided long-range missiles would have to programmed, operated and navigated by NATO personnel/satellites and this is blatant and overt involvement. I dare say not even Ronald Raegan would have approved this. If it's approved, it implies Ruski nuke arsenal has failed since it has not deterred an attack on its home soil. What would any nation worth its salt do in such a scenario, irrespective of what its political or ideological inclinations are?!?! Is it worth losing the world and humanity for the sake of Ukraine?

US hints at allowing Ukraine to strike deep inside Russia, enraging Putin

 

[Vishnugupt]

an assassination already happened . remember wagners , an army started marching towards moscow , "coup" leader then died in plane crash . another coup attempt is not unthinkable . US is far more stable than Russia . when was last time there was armed rebellion there ?


Trump himself has said his plan is to push down oil price , force Putin to negotiate . i know he says a lot of bullshit so lets see

Better worry about your stable America

I just said and it happened.

Donald Trump safe after gunshots nearby, FBI calls incident 'apparent assassination attempt' - Times of India

US News: Donald Trump is confirmed safe after gunshots were fired near his golf club in West Palm Beach, Florida. The Secret Service responded promptly, and a

timesofindia.indiatimes.com

Oil producing countries cutting oil production to keep price up. World is not slave of Trump. Stop dreaming

 

[Vishnugupt]

not sure how he is gonna do it , but thats what he is claiming , i dont mind , if it does happen , its good for us too .

Trump vows to halve energy costs in 12 months. Few see that happening.

Presidents have limited control over the global oil market, industry experts say, and any steep price drop could make it unprofitable for firms to “drill, baby, drill.”

www.nbcnews.com

Don't judge things on election narratives. People tells/Claims a lot during elections.

Maldives president won election purely on hate against India and Muzzi promised lots against India but in reality he is coming India next week to make relationship more better.

Barak Obama promised to close Abu Garib prison in Cuba in 2008 during election. He was elected twice but couldn't close the prison, infact ended up increasing the funding

Trump will do the same as Biden is doing today. Presidents change but foreign policy remain persistent.

If Ukraine lost the war then Trump will be blamed so he will be forced to continue the war.

 

[Dezza]

Jesus says love each other but only when it's suitable for you.

Ukrainian are just a canon fodder. As I said earlier only Putin loves Ukrainian rest of all want them dead as soon as possible.

Morality and peace is a elusive phenomenon for Abrahamic religions and Gl0b0h0m0s Liberandu-sickulars.

Vishnugupt, i dont think ur qualified to speak about what Jesus said. Stick to the topic and keep religion out of it.

 

[Vishnugupt]

Vishnugupt, i dont think ur qualified to speak about what Jesus said. Stick to the topic and keep religion out of it.

Why should we keep religion out because it doesn't suits you now?? You people are very quick to criticize others culture and believe and blame it for their backwardness.

Now why couldn't your fake religion should be questioned??

Christianity alone destroyed thausands of language, cultures and species leave aside religion of pieces.

Why freedom of opinion disappears when things come back to you?

All war in Europe and Middle East have fingerprint of Abrahamic religions so my point is valid of questioning the religions