Russian Ukrainian War

[karn]

Does not same or worse stand for Ukraine too? How many Million S of ukrainian ran away or bribed their way out to Poland/france/Germany/etc etc to escape the forced mobilisation... 5 millions or 7 millions or more than that???? or 0 ? Guess how many more will run away when Ukraine sets age of draft to 18 or mandate women to enlist for fronts...

Fact is that both countries are facing human shortage, but ukraine to be precise, is facing the blunt edge more harshly...
So much so that even your so called experts at kiev are now questioning the end result of that forced mobilisation! You can least expect fightworthyness and willpower to die for you whom the TCC has snached from a supposed car or disco or party to the front with 2 week or less training! These guys will surrender or desert at first chance they come by.
Slave or not, allegedly putin is getting some numbers nah! same way you had some 20-30 k mercs at first fighting for you which is now below 3k left or less?

1 wrong move in chess of geopolitics as invasion of Kursk, and you lost that edge, my friend. The trump card of Being Victim is lost now. From your own stand of point you may justify that, but for the majority of the World population NOW, you 2 are just fighting adversary in each other's territory. At least 4 billion + population of BRICS ++ and some NATO members too thinks so.

Russia has successfully turned the wheel of war between resource consumers vs the suppliers in motion... while G7/20 are the consumers mainly, guess what! BRICS got the most resources extraction capability..and the resources.

Leave it re .. We sitting in India are not effected and to fight a losing war requires a lot of copium .. let the westerners and our expats argues with him since it's their tax dollars getting burnt .
We can only warn him about below picture... if he chooses not to believe it ,, there is nothing that we can do.

 

[Vishnugupt]

You have a very primitive understanding of war: "if you captured it, then you did well." Why did the USSR retreat to the Volga - it was wearing down the enemy's forces with defensive battles.
The Polish army was ready to retreat to the Vistula-river with rearguard battles until 2022.
This is a common tactic against a superior enemy. As Kutuzov said: "With the loss of Moscow, all of Russia is not lost. With the loss of the Russian army, we will lose both Moscow and Russia."
So the North Korean troops did appear, because life was not good. Putin has no reserves.

Come on, stop your this irrelevant examples.
Russia also retreated from Kiev, Kherson and Kharkov but nobody claimed it as Russia is losing war , except Gl0b0h0m0s Liberandu-sickulars. Because there were strategic reason behind it.

Retreating from all over front can't be a Ukrainian strategy when you have enough resources to attack Kursk.

Actually you have zero understanding about anything on the earth. You are just hopping if there will be some miracle happened like in WW2 but remember Soviet managed to turn the table only because USSR had intact industrial base

 

[GaudaNaresh]

I once had a dacha (a small country house), I gave it to my ex-wife after the divorce. When it was being built, I asked the designer to come up with a nice fence for me. He invited a gardener and he planted small bushes for a "living fence". When I asked him "What is this?", he answered: - They will grow in 5 years. I don't need it in 5 years, I need it NOW. That's how it is with your colonization. Grinding your teeth and waiting until 2070 is at the very least unprofitable.

A million adult men who fled is definitely not 2% Besides. Those who fled were those who had the financial means to leave. Many more hid in different cities/towns. So mobilization in Russia is not a very popular process.
I repeat: Look at Vovchansk and the village of Liptsy. 5 km and they came across our defensive line. Although it was not there before.

1. a million adult men didnt flee Russia. The number is closer to 200K
2. every country has people fleeing them in face of draft. Even USA. There's plenty of people in places like the kootenays who are still here due to draft dodging during vietnam war.
3. The blog that has been cited here, predicted your nation losing ground in Donbass in the fall, around march this year. Which is proven by the timestamps on the blog. Which means, it is of greater quality than what your govt. is feeding you in terms of propaganda as well as your allies.
4. The defensive lines you built over 10 years cracked in a year and half. The ones you are hurriedly building now wont even last two months
5. You as usual are an ignorant piece of shit, trying to talk on topics you have no clue on- such as immigration/colonization and this war.
As i said. if you had more than 2 brain cells to rub together or had your lineage been not barbarian, you'd STFU and learn from us here instead of yapping like a typical low IQ low education western barbarian.

 

[Blademaster]

1. a million adult men didnt flee Russia. The number is closer to 200K
2. every country has people fleeing them in face of draft. Even USA. There's plenty of people in places like the kootenays who are still here due to draft dodging during vietnam war.
3. The blog that has been cited here, predicted your nation losing ground in Donbass in the fall, around march this year. Which is proven by the timestamps on the blog. Which means, it is of greater quality than what your govt. is feeding you in terms of propaganda as well as your allies.
4. The defensive lines you built over 10 years cracked in a year and half. The ones you are hurriedly building now wont even last two months
5. You as usual are an ignorant piece of shit, trying to talk on topics you have no clue on- such as immigration/colonization and this war.
As i said. if you had more than 2 brain cells to rub together or had your lineage been not barbarian, you'd STFU and learn from us here instead of yapping like a typical low IQ low education western barbarian.

Americans also left US during Gulf War 2. About 42k-43k left US.

 

[Akim]

Mass escape? Akim, your only defense left is to exaggerate everything except Ukrainian losses.

And so it is on all borders.

Does not same or worse stand for Ukraine too? How many Million S of ukrainian ran away or bribed their way out to Poland/france/Germany/etc etc to escape the forced mobilisation... 5 millions or 7 millions or more than that???? or 0 ? Guess how many more will run away when Ukraine sets age of draft to 18 or mandate women to enlist for fronts...

Fact is that both countries are facing human shortage, but ukraine to be precise, is facing the blunt edge more harshly...
So much so that even your so called experts at kiev are now questioning the end result of that forced mobilisation! You can least expect fightworthyness and willpower to die for you whom the TCC has snached from a supposed car or disco or party to the front with 2 week or less training! These guys will surrender or desert at first chance they come by.
Slave or not, allegedly putin is getting some numbers nah! same way you had some 20-30 k mercs at first fighting for you which is now below 3k left or less?

1 wrong move in chess of geopolitics as invasion of Kursk, and you lost that edge, my friend. The trump card of Being Victim is lost now. From your own stand of point you may justify that, but for the majority of the World population NOW, you 2 are just fighting adversary in each other's territory. At least 4 billion + population of BRICS ++ and some NATO members too thinks so.

Russia has successfully turned the wheel of war between resource consumers vs the suppliers in motion... while G7/20 are the consumers mainly, guess what! BRICS got the most resources extraction capability..and the resources.

Indeed, they are running. If I ask a similar question about 500 people, then it is easy to collect the required number.
Mobilization is never voluntary. It is a violent compulsion of men/women to defend their country. People are all different. Some are simply afraid. So there are no crowds willing to defend their country. Such crowds were in the first days of the war. Now it is mostly voluntary-compulsory - by summons.
The difference is that we are defending ourselves. A strange principle in rape - let the woman not resist, the man is still stronger.
Experts are different. Recently, one of them blurted out in his own tongue that it will be possible to mobilize 14-year-olds, otherwise we will not save the country. Idiot. Today, it is legally prohibited to mobilize under 25 years old.

 

[GaudaNaresh]

And so it is on all borders.
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Indeed, they are running. If I ask a similar question about 500 people, then it is easy to collect the required number.
Mobilization is never voluntary. It is a violent compulsion of men/women to defend their country. People are all different. Some are simply afraid. So there are no crowds willing to defend their country. Such crowds were in the first days of the war. Now it is mostly voluntary-compulsory - by summons.
The difference is that we are defending ourselves. A strange principle in rape - let the woman not resist, the man is still stronger.
Experts are different. Recently, one of them blurted out in his own tongue that it will be possible to mobilize 14-year-olds, otherwise we will not save the country. Idiot. Today, it is legally prohibited to mobilize under 25 years old.

Your rape analogy is as retarded as your comments about colonization and the actual statu of this war.
you didnt stay neutral, your nation overthrew a democtatically elected government at behest of murrica and you guys wanted to join NATO, the enemy alliance against your neighbour Russia.
That is sufficient provocation in most neutral people's books.

Your nation didnt get raped for no reason. You threatened to kill your neighbour and he in turn raped you. completely justified in that case, fyi.

 

[Akim]

Come on, stop your this irrelevant examples.
Russia also retreated from Kiev, Kherson and Kharkov but nobody claimed it as Russia is losing war , except Gl0b0h0m0s Liberandu-sickulars. Because there were strategic reason behind it.

Retreating from all over front can't be a Ukrainian strategy when you have enough resources to attack Kursk.

Actually you have zero understanding about anything on the earth. You are just hopping if there will be some miracle happened like in WW2 but remember Soviet managed to turn the table only because USSR had intact industrial base

Now Bob Woodward's new book "War" has come out, where he mentions how Putler waved an atomic bomb in the fall of 2022 to avoid the shame of defeat and partners slowed down the supply of weapons.

 

[Akim]

Your rape analogy is as retarded as your comments about colonization and the actual statu of this war.
you didnt stay neutral, your nation overthrew a democtatically elected government at behest of murrica and you guys wanted to join NATO, the enemy alliance against your neighbour Russia.
That is sufficient provocation in most neutral people's books.

Your nation didnt get raped for no reason. You threatened to kill your neighbour and he in turn raped you. completely justified in that case, fyi.

I stopped arguing with you because I don't give a damn about your opinion, because I've come to the conclusion that you are an ordinary fascist loser.

 

[GaudaNaresh]

I stopped arguing with you because I don't give a damn about your opinion, because I've come to the conclusion that you are an ordinary fascist loser.

Your conclusions are laughable, since you are the fascist and greatest fascist here and you deign to call people fascists because they dont like YOUR fascism. Classic case of low IQ sun dodger barbarian.

You stopped arguing, coz you lost. And you aint man enough to admit that. Because i answered your whining with objective data driven facts about YOUR OWN DAMN WAR.
Typical war propagandist loser.

 

[Vishnugupt]

Now Bob Woodward's new book "War" has come out, where he mentions how Putler waved an atomic bomb in the fall of 2022 to avoid the shame of defeat and partners slowed down the supply of weapons.
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Kitna Chutiya insaan hai bc.... Kisi Gl0b0h0m0s Liberandu-sickulars chutiya ne kuch bhi likh diya or bhai usko sahi Maan baitha hai.

Putin ki pilayi or is book me kya relation hai?? Lauda

 

[Akim]

Your conclusions are laughable, since you are the fascist and greatest fascist here and you deign to call people fascists because they dont like YOUR fascism. Classic case of low IQ sun dodger barbarian.

You stopped arguing, coz you lost. And you aint man enough to admit that. Because i answered your whining with objective data driven facts about YOUR OWN DAMN WAR.
Typical war propagandist loser.

I don't know what facts? I don't argue with Russian citizens (I don't communicate at all) and I stopped arguing with you. I'm not interested in you. Live with your "truth" and continue cleaning up the University of Toronto.


View: https://x.com/a_from_s/status/1848754062537142603

 

[WW2historian]

Now Bob Woodward's new book "War" has come out, where he mentions how Putler waved an atomic bomb in the fall of 2022 to avoid the shame of defeat and partners slowed down the supply of weapons.

Bob Woodward doesn't know shit. He's naïve and stupid. "Woodward believed the Bush administration's claims of Iraqi weapons of mass destruction prior to the war. During an appearance on Larry King Live, he was asked by a telephone caller, "Suppose we go to war and go into Iraq and there are no weapons of mass destruction", Woodward responded "I think the chance of that happening is about zero. There's just too much there."<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bob_Woodward#cite_note-17"><span>[</span>17<span>]</span></a><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bob_Woodward#cite_note-18"><span>[</span>18<span>]</span></a> Woodward later admitted his error saying, "I think I dropped the ball here. I should have pushed much, much harder on the skepticism about the reality of WMD; in other words, [I should have] said, 'Hey, look, the evidence is not as strong as they were claiming.'"<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bob_Woodward#cite_note-R000123-19"><span>[</span>19<span>]</span></a>

 

[shade2]

Zelenskyy says ‘victory plan’ to end Russia war includes NATO membership

Ukrainian president tells parliament it’s ‘possible to end the war no later than next year’ if his proposal is followed.

www.aljazeera.com

@Akim In your country what do the people make of this "Join NATO" decision, has zelensky mentioned about the hows and whys?

I understand that the NAFO boys don't want to smash Russia directly because it has 8000 nukes or something, unlike when everyone was lining up to bomb Belgrade during the Bosnian war.

So one of the conditions of NATO accession has to be a freeze in the current conflict, which means no retaking Donbass, Kherson, Crimea for a while, I mean y'all will be able to keep Kiev, Kharkiv and Odessa + you get Article 5 protections.

 

[Akim]

Zelenskyy says ‘victory plan’ to end Russia war includes NATO membership

Ukrainian president tells parliament it’s ‘possible to end the war no later than next year’ if his proposal is followed.

www.aljazeera.com

@Akim In your country what do the people make of this "Join NATO" decision, has zelensky mentioned about the hows and whys?

I understand that the NAFO boys don't want to smash Russia directly because it has 8000 nukes or something, unlike when everyone was lining up to bomb Belgrade during the Bosnian war.

So one of the conditions of NATO accession has to be a freeze in the current conflict, which means no retaking Donbass, Kherson, Crimea for a while, I mean y'all will be able to keep Kiev, Kharkiv and Odessa + you get Article 5 protections.

Of course. He even read out this "Victory Plan" in Parliament. Various experts discussed it. But without secret sub-clauses, it looks like a declaration of intent. Good wishes, but the path to implementation is unknown.
As for NATO, its support in society began to grow after the annexation of Crimea in 2014. Now it is almost 80%, and then it was 30%. My opinion is that I have always been against NATO. Only the reasons are different. In 2013, I was still looking towards Russia, but now I think that NATO is too amorphous an organization. We need to create a new military alliance.
I have already written about the "FRG-GDR" scenario here. It is being actively discussed by the Western press, but Zelensky has already responded that we do not trade our territories.

View: https://x.com/wartranslated/status/1849065614746251773

 

[GaudaNaresh]

I don't know what facts? I don't argue with Russian citizens (I don't communicate at all) and I stopped arguing with you. I'm not interested in you. Live with your "truth" and continue cleaning up the University of Toronto.


View: https://x.com/a_from_s/status/1848754062537142603

i am a software business owner, butthurt drunkie. You are not interested because you aint man enough to admit you were wrong, as proven by my posts. Its just that simple. Continue to live off of our charity and then deign to tell us what is the truth, like a typical ungrateful nazi scum.

 

[Akim]

i am a software business owner, butthurt drunkie. You are not interested because you aint man enough to admit you were wrong, as proven by my posts. Its just that simple. Continue to live off of our charity and then deign to tell us what is the truth, like a typical ungrateful nazi scum.

Have you already torn all the gum off the student desks?
What kind of programmer are you if you still see a cult of Nazism in Ukraine? Even intellectuals from Russia don't write about this anymore.
Such information is intended for the lowest strata of the population. Those who can barely add 2+2.

 

[GaudaNaresh]

Have you already torn all the gum off the student desks?
What kind of programmer are you if you still see a cult of Nazism in Ukraine? Even intellectuals from Russia don't write about this anymore.
Such information is intended for the lowest strata of the population. Those who can barely add 2+2.

Why are you describing your job to me, ukronazi ?
I am the kind of programmer that saw your president come to my parliament and honour an actual living breathing 90+ year old ww2 nazi. Thats how i know your country is full of Nazis.

We are brown people. Nazis are an existential threat to us, so why would we listen to white people like you or russians on who/what nazis are ? they are for us to define, inferior one.

And you keep proving you aint man enough to admit when you have been proven wrong. Must be the inferior upbringing your inferior parents subjected you to.

 

[Soldier35]

Footage of the attack of a Russian Ka-29 helicopter of the Black Sea Fleet on the Ukrainian naval drone MAGURA has been published. The video was filmed near Crimea, as reported, there were only 4 naval drones. The MAGURA drone is modified and armed with an R-73 aircraft missile, technical information about the drone is on the channel. Despite the fact that the drone has an R-73 missile, it cannot use it, since the missile has a dead zone of about 300 meters. If the helicopter moves away at a distance of more than 300 meters, it can be hit by a missile. The helicopter fires from all types of weapons installed on board. A 7.62 machine gun, a GShG-7.62 automatic cannon and a 23-mm GSh-23L aircraft cannon are used. The authors did not show the full video, perhaps the second part will be released later.


View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Idu-9O1iBHU

 

[Akim]

Why are you describing your job to me, ukronazi ?
I am the kind of programmer that saw your president come to my parliament and honour an actual living breathing 90+ year old ww2 nazi. Thats how i know your country is full of Nazis.

We are brown people. Nazis are an existential threat to us, so why would we listen to white people like you or russians on who/what nazis are ? they are for us to define, inferior one.

And you keep proving you aint man enough to admit when you have been proven wrong. Must be the inferior upbringing your inferior parents subjected you to.

It's funny to hear about upbringing from an immigrant. Maybe in India it's normal and there they don't teach you to love your family and your land?
I don't like immigrants. My nephew lives in Miami and I don't approve of his actions.
A refugee is a different matter. My sister met Belarusian refugees in Bulgaria who fled from the Lukashenko regime.
If American Nazis support Trump, then why should I consider all Americans Nazis? This is what distinguishes a thinking person from a consumer of denatured alcohol.

Zelensky can't know everyone and the question of why Canada hid this Nazi for 70 years is not addressed to the right person. They could have extradited him to the USSR long ago. But apparently they like to collect freaks. They took you

 

[GaudaNaresh]

It's funny to hear about upbringing from an immigrant. Maybe in India it's normal and there they don't teach you to love your family and your land?

They do teach us to love our family and our land, but not let it cloud us to the FACTS pertaining to our wars. Our media & people are far more 'real' when it comes to the 4 wars we've fought and we dont cook up bullshit about how the war is going like you guys do.

I don't like immigrants. My nephew lives in Miami and I don't approve of his actions.

It doesnt matter what you like or dont like about immigrants, point is, you are a complete ignorant fool with zero experience OF immigration, so you are in no position to tell me, an immigrant who knows 1000 times more immigrants than you do, about psychology of immigrants and the goals OF immigration.

You can learn from us and STFU, but thats not what your parents clearly taught you in your upbringing

Zelensky can't know everyone and the question of why Canada hid this Nazi for 70 years is not addressed to the right person. They could have extradited him to the USSR long ago. But apparently they like to collect freaks. They took you

Stop making up lies, Zelensky knew the man, because whenever a facking PM or a dignitary goes to a foreign country to honour a man, he knows of the man weeks ahead of time, so does his team and the fact that he is a nazi is available to see for all.
And zelensky KNEW he was a Nazi collaborator, because he CITED this nazi for fighting in WW2 against Russians in our own parliament, in his own speech, nubnut nazi lover from nazi abetting nation.

Stop telling lies - your President knew he was going to go speak in a foreign parliament honouring a Nazi war criminal. His own SPEECH proves it so.
And thats exactly why i hate funding your country and coordinating to stop funding your country here.


PS: This is not about America having nazis and american nazis supporting trump. Nobody cares about that, nobody cares that Ukraine has nazis who support Zelensky. What we care about is ZELENSKY supports and honours Nazis and the fact that HIS GOVERNMENT has handed out honours to known nazis for years and now has come to my country to honour a nazi, you dumb gobshyte ukronazi retard.

Now i can see why the Turks took your women as sex slaves because men from your part of that world are dumb and annoying cunts and not much different than the most annoying of our women.