Sinking State of Bangladesh: Idiotic Musings

Stomach is only relevant after capability. We do not have he capability to fight a war without serious external support for more than a couple of months. maximum.
It depends on upon the country.

Against China/US, we can't.
Against Pakistan, we can for a long time (but they can't).
Against BD, war will be not prolonged enough to pressurise. We don't need to invade BD is a different case.
The NE states are compromised to say the least - the lack of development and general connectivity with rest of India has left them vulnerable to illicit conversions to Xtianity, drugs/weapons trafficking etc. which have been fully exploited by a lot of external powers including the PRC/US. Anyone who has visited Siliguri corridor knows what I am talking about. You can rest assured that they will figure out a route through the NE states or Myanmar and riverine coastlines to get supplies to BD guerillas. If IA decides to get involved, it should go in fully understanding the gravity of the situation and be ready for the costs that it would incur. Underplaying the risk would be at our own peril.

Pessimism might be useful to anticipate worse case scenario but must be realistic.

If you believe that you can maintain enough logistics supply for BD military with the help of insurgencies Myanmar to fight against world's second largest steel producer, largest standing army whose navy and army locks the Bangladesh effectively from all sides (added Bangladeshi Aerospace is nearly defenseless), you may probably believe that you can supply enough arms to mainland Chinese cities to topple down CCP and PLA forces.

BD is not a military problem nor is going to be in foreseeable future as gradually same is happneing with Pakistan alongside their economic decline. These problems nor have a military solution.

It is the problem inhabiting India's rebellious Muslims which are not fit for Indian society, in separate landmasses and prevent them from being nuisance.

More they unite and intract with each other, more border nuisances they will create and more foregn powers will abuse them. Problem is installing a pro India government for long term which keeps the trouble away like we did with Hasina.

What we need is a regime chnage in BD and somehow cover it from public backlash like done to Hasina. Subsequently, doing same in Pakistan would also eliminate one more front down the line in decades. Otherwise, there will always be conflicts at border regardless of power gap between India and Pak.
How did India muck this one up? We liberated this turd of a nation and now this nation is asking for its former rapist for collaboration?!?! We need serious introspection of the policies of RAW, IB and foreign ministry!! The bonds of chummah and hatred of the kaffir appear far greater than any forced bdsm performed on them!! :facepalm4:
For Pakistanis on BD, neither they asked, nor we liberated them.

We just snatched a part of their land and installed a pro India government there. We managed that well for long.
 
Couptaji at it again! After that article on hilsha, now this.....
If you think this is bad , you should see his recent video on the Manipur situation then . He's openly said the BJP at the centre is openly siding with the Meiteis seeking to co opt them within the larger framework of Hinduism / Hindutva setting the ground for a war against the cookies.

He sees absolutely no contradiction or even anything objectionable between the xenophobia of the tribals in the NE which is further fuelled by a church antagonistic towards non Christians actively being played out on the ground since independence & later in different parts of the NE.

He's like that bastard friend you have , who when you get into a scuffle leave aside his coming to your aid , he'd either castigate you or restrain you instead of your opponent , by holding your arms leaving you defenseless before your enemies. It'd be better if this "friend" ran away.

Here you go...


View: https://youtu.be/egmHD3zMvTc?si=j3uPrDEzjCzwBzvb
 
A few things to note:

1. Far better equipped armies have failed against rag tag guerilla forces - US/Soviets vs Afghanistan, US vs Vietnam etc. You can bet your ass that every external power will aid the guerillas and make life hell for IA.

2. IA will not conduct genocide or mass conversions nor install puppet dictatorships. So gaining territory doesn't mean anything. It will be an eternally troubled region like Afghanistan right in India's armpit.

3. Granted Ruskis are fighting 40+ nations in Ukraine, but they have been underwhelming to say the least. Both their men and equipment have taken a beating. Now try convincing me that somehow Indians are better at using Russian equipment/strategies better than Russians themselves?!?!

Moral of the story: IA will overcome the traditional BD army defenses but will get bogged down in a meat grinder in a marshland with multiple rivers and unlimited cannon fodder in terms of manpower. Please be mindful that there is no mukti bahini, Maneckshaw, Indira and more importantly USSR this time. So if we were clutching our balls at the sight of Abhinandan being a POW, fat chance we will have the gall to fight through a prolonged multiyear WW2 style meat grinder war.
India has succeded once prior in 1971 due to certain factors in India's favor and those factors have not changed much

  1. Bangladesh still is surrounded on 3 sides on land and our navy on its coast
  2. Any point in Bangladesh is stone throw away from Indian border. i.e non-existent strategic depth.
  3. The military asymmetry between India and Bangladesh is same as it was between IA and East Pak army
  4. While there is no Soviet Union today, there will be no USA naval intervention threat today as well

Only one difference is as of now we do not have 150k Mukti Bahini insurgents equivalent to keep potential Kanglu razakar guerillas at bay.

This is what previous Indian govts have been doing right after death of Mujib. Courting insurgent elements in Bangladesh

Today India is at a much better position due to its economy to aid insurgents.

Kanglus have attempted to aid NE insurgents but like 1971 their efforts will not yeild the desired results.

Any Indian Govt's next steps would be to revive and support insurgency in Kangluland until situation changes in India's favour.

Chakmas would be a good start.
Wouldn't surpised to find my Awami's willing to take up arms against BNP Kanglu
 
Do you really believe that Bangladesh is acting a bit rude and over confident. Don't they know that when next floods visit Bangladesh or next Cyclone takes an aim at Bangladesh; then it is India and only India which will save them. Both America and ISI will sea the troubles from a distance and look the other way. This scenario is not far away. It happens every two three years in Bangladesh.

For US, it is much easy to implement regime change. It is much harder to manage the after effects. The US should know that from their Iraq experience. There is still no peace in Iraq.

At the behest of ISI, they are happy to lionize Jinnah and try to implement Urdu. They also working hard to change the national anthem as it was written by Ravindranath Tagore. He was a Bengali. Now they want to import Urdu national anthem.

India has to stay silent until floods or cyclone visit. Bankrupt Pakistan can only advise them on Islamization. Nothing else they can offer. They will run to India with folded hands.
 
Do you really believe that Bangladesh is acting a bit rude and over confident. Don't they know that when next floods visit Bangladesh or next Cyclone takes an aim at Bangladesh; then it is India and only India which will save them. Both America and ISI will sea the troubles from a distance and look the other way. This scenario is not far away. It happens every two three years in Bangladesh.

For US, it is much easy to implement regime change. It is much harder to manage the after effects. The US should know that from their Iraq experience. There is still no peace in Iraq.


At the behest of ISI, they are happy to lionize Jinnah and try to implement Urdu. They also working hard to change the national anthem as it was written by Ravindranath Tagore. He was a Bengali. Now they want to import Urdu national anthem.

India has to stay silent until floods or cyclone visit. Bankrupt Pakistan can only advise them on Islamization. Nothing else they can offer. They will run to India with folded hands.

Bold of you to assume US wants peace in the first place.
US geopolitics follows the 'Rimland-heartland' theory and as such, being in the rimlands, its primacy in power *IS* based on creating controlled instability in the heartland. Heartland of the world is Eurasia. A hyperpower in the heartland = highest stability quotient of humanity, yet, lowest probability quotent of Rimland being apex of humanity.
Controlled instability here doesnt necessarily mean you play puppetmaster, it means the fire you start, is of limited scope. In yankee context, it means no full scale regional war, just regional law and order and politics and development issues.
 
Hullo guys, a military coup is all but official in Bangladesh now



liberal hero of BD grants AFSPA powers (technically) to their military, let's see how his friends here will spin this.
 
liberal hero of BD grants AFSPA powers (technically) to their military, let's see how his friends here will spin this.
Nothing much will happen. Permission's been granted by the great satan. That's the reason you saw Loo in BD recently. If people like is question them they'd shoot back - are you ok with Hindus being targeted there ? End of the story .
 
All these cases of recent instability in all neighbouring nations have one thing in common, foreign powers with a lot of resources and effort may be able to bring their puppet to power/throne/win the election but if those puppets want to run the country they need Bharat.
 
Bold of you to assume US wants peace in the first place.
US geopolitics follows the 'Rimland-heartland' theory and as such, being in the rimlands, its primacy in power *IS* based on creating controlled instability in the heartland. Heartland of the world is Eurasia. A hyperpower in the heartland = highest stability quotient of humanity, yet, lowest probability quotent of Rimland being apex of humanity.
Controlled instability here doesnt necessarily mean you play puppetmaster, it means the fire you start, is of limited scope. In yankee context, it means no full scale regional war, just regional law and order and politics and development issues.
Interesting perspective

But I feel USA geopolitics is much simpler. If there is a weakling nation like Bangladesh/Pakistan in the vicinity then USA must race for influence and prevent competing imperial powers (China, Russia, Saudi etc) from holding any influence there first to USA's detriment or disadvantage

This is what they did in colonial China to limit European power.
Open Door Policy

In wikileaks, An American diplomat once mentioned how India can have international ambitions of a great power when it's unwilling to intervene in neighbourhood issues.

The American perception here is if India is too delusional, and self-righteous to not intervene in Bangladesh to its detriment, I USA will take the lead before the power vacuum gets filled by a competing power.

Americans are very familiar with this Indian self-righteous civilizational mindset as America in its early years fantasized geopolitical isolation only to learn cruel lessons the hard way.
 
Interesting perspective

But I feel USA geopolitics is much simpler. If there is a weakling nation like Bangladesh/Pakistan in the vicinity then USA must race for influence and prevent competing imperial powers (China, Russia, Saudi etc) from holding any influence there first to USA's detriment or disadvantage

This is what they did in colonial China to limit European power.
Open Door Policy

In wikileaks, An American diplomat once mentioned how India can have international ambitions of a great power when it's unwilling to intervene in neighbourhood issues.

The American perception here is if India is too delusional, and self-righteous to not intervene in Bangladesh to its detriment, I USA will take the lead before the power vacuum gets filled by a competing power.

Americans are very familiar with this Indian self-righteous civilizational mindset as America in its early years fantasized geopolitical isolation only to learn cruel lessons the hard way.
Using Islamists to there advantage has been the key to us succes in many covert operations be it in regime changes or for establishing influence.
The greater risk for india is how it could destabilise india.
India was already involved with Hasina put in power it was the usa who used its usual tactics Donald loo and all to topple the regime. Also let's not forget a white country wants a military base there ??

I don't disregard u either as Bangladesh wasnt competely in indian camp the Hasina sought best for its nation so china via vi india she played and sought the best. From both sides. So it did engaged alot with china. Which wasn't good for Americans

However what will Interesting to see if usa uses its new proxies to contain india in North East or not. North East already being destabilised by external forces it would be interesting to see implications of new regime on our security in far east.
Already they're people are calling for war on kafir Hindu. The main frontline players of usa islami jammatis calling for boycott india. Now does it goes further and has more implications of its just to gather crowd who knows. As we can already see the regime isn't that friendly. They wants neutral relation. Now is it just cutting down Indian influence or alot more than expected (containing india and all) will be interesting to see. How things progress.

Or usa just wanted to reduce Chinese influence from the region and established itself there.
 
Not only this guy turned out to be a Bangladeshi, there is no proof he vandalised the temple. He was just picked up while he was sleeping near the temple.
Guy is mentally disturbed as evident from the first glance at him, but it did not stop anyone in their police or their media to insinuate wild allegations on him.
 
BD is not a military problem nor is going to be in foreseeable future as gradually same is happneing with Pakistan alongside their economic decline. These problems nor have a military solution.

It is the problem inhabiting India's rebellious Muslims which are not fit for Indian society, in separate landmasses and prevent them from being nuisance.

Bangladesh is not aiming to have a direct military bellicose with India. What they are aiming to is to start an insurrection in Muslim-majority districts in West Bengal, especially Murshidabad,Malda, and Uttar Dinajpur which are close to the Siliguri corridor.Further it aims to start a separatist insurgency in Lower Assam.They already had Muslim United Liberation Tigers of Assam but it didn't work out and faded under the shadow of ULFA.
 

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