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[Waanar]

Your guys asked about an adversary with air defense system!!

You're actually comparing attacking a country undergoing civil war with 20 other countries to what our AF does?
Are you seriously that lost in the sauce?

 

[yasincsoy]

He's comparing some 20 countries attacking a single small, sparsely populated Eastern European nation (of which his Air Force was a part) to our AF attacking a full fledged nuclear state with new Chinese toys and at full alert.
This, according to him, is peak Turkish Air Force performance. This also happened some 35 years ago.

Grasping at straws but the straws are rotten too.

Man, Turks are just like Pakistanis.... I always thought you guys were exaggerating in the other thread.

Comparing our air force and pilots to indian ones is joke!! and insult to ours.
Go try to figure out what whole world thinks of you.

 

[chnvipgz]

We bombed them thinking as PKK members. They are smugglers. So we are not so sorry for them.

Lolz I was talking about bombing by turk airforce on your parliament.

2016 Turkish coup attempt - Wikipedia

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[Waanar]

Comparing our air force and pilots to indian ones is joke!! and insult to ours.
Go try to figure out what whole world thinks of you.

It doesn't matter what the whole world thinks of us. Our Air force attacks and destroys airbases in nuclear armed, heavily armed countries and you're here comparing that to what... bombing smugglers?


Turks are considered brute savage animals by Europeans since forever but you think of yourself highly, don't you?
Of course you do. You're comparing Turkey's untested, unskilled pilots to ours, after all.

 

[Waanar]

Lolz I was talking about bombing by turk airforce on your parliament.

2016 Turkish coup attempt - Wikipedia

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Lmao, guy's Air Force bombs it's own civilians so much, he confuses one implied incident as another.
Man, I'm loving this.

The audacity on the guy to compare Turkish Air Force's unopposed bombing missions on countries embroiled in civil wars with no AD to what our AF does.
This guy thinks all the memes and ridiculing Indians on SM actually translates to incompetence in our people. No, mehmet.
They do it because they feel threatened by India's rise.

 

[chnvipgz]

Comparing our air force and pilots to indian ones is joke!! and insult to ours.
Go try to figure out what whole world thinks of you.

Tharki pilots are such jokers that they were jailed after the coup and are being replaced by unmanned baykar drones and aircraft.

Whole world knows how india pilots are the best and blew apart whole nuke air bases,runways,shot down jets j10c,jf17,saab awacs,f16s,saab dg50 ew ,hq9,hq16,turkey koral ew and missile depot of pakistan through establishing air superiority and fooling pakistani air defence and jets into shooting decoy drones.

Redirect Notice

Paf was fooled by decoy piloted drones with signatures of indian aircraft to fool their pl15,hq16,hq9,turkey koral ew,j10c,jf17,Saab erieye awec etc.


View: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=5W3P5xSLyuA&pp=0gcJCY0JAYcqIYzv

Here is how indian jets went 300km inside pakistan and bombed their isi terrorists safe houses infra.


View: https://youtu.be/OrQD5PCYbc4?si=kZ2mUkFGG8bF41JA

 

[Waanar]

USA with so many aircraft loses less than 10 aircraft per year. It was less than 5 before f-35 got operational.
F-35 uses so many software for it's control etc. it is not due air force but due nature of that fifth gen aircrafts with ai.

Since this guy made me curious, I decided I'll look it up and here it is-

That's approximately 33 aircraft per year historically (and remember, we have had 6 conventional wars against peer forces unlike Turkey) and 2012 to 2021, it's approximately 17 per year counting all Aircraft including non fighter jets, propellers and helicopters.

This is while the AF actually conducted operations inside Pakistan in 2019. Sure the crash rate is higher than average but its not like there are some hundred aircraft crashing like Mehmet will say.
What say you, @yasincsoy ?

 

[Sanglamorre]

Your guys asked about an adversary with air defense system!!

Not much of an adversary if you are fighting one low level country with the help of a dozen much more powerful who already destroyed air defences and Turks just went in and bombed them like bombing ragtag militia

Try fighting atleast a near peer without having bigger countries back you up, then you'll see.

Look, we get it. Everyone is shaped by their circumstances. We live in a very dangerous neighbourhood so we grown to match it. Turks live in idylic peaceful garden in comparison so you don't need to develop. That's fine. But being a small fish in a small pond shouldn't cloud one's judgement to what exactly is good skill.

 

[Waanar]

We live in a very dangerous neighbourhood so we grown to match it. Turks live in idylic peaceful garden in comparison so you don't need to develop. That's fine. But being a small fish in a small pond shouldn't cloud one's judgement to what exactly is good skill.

Oh god.... He will compare ISIS to our neighborhood (Pakistan and China) now. What have you done, @Sanglamorre?

Let me pre emptively strike (hehe) that argument, @yasincsoy , you live besides Syria and EU. Don't come here comparing your little safe suburban to being surrounded by China and Pakistan. We have a similar neighbor in the form of Myanmar and we don't consider them a threat at all, that's how low insurgencies and civil war ridden countries fall in our threat matrix, something I'm sure you'll no doubt try to dispute.

 

[karn]

This one from 2016

View: https://youtu.be/cqERFb11Rwg?si=M5oPTl2PxRBokBQo&t=214

 

[vin pahadi (kumauni)]

Comparing our air force and pilots to indian ones is joke!! and insult to ours.
Go try to figure out what whole world thinks of you.

dude....dont joke too much, we cant handle ur funny comments. compare urself with greece, taiwan etc type countries in air power. even pakistan is better than u guys. whole world u say, when did u interview or survey with 8 billion population of world?? how do u know what whole world think about indian air forces pilot. i guess u spend too much time in pakistan defense forum. they consider themself second best (after america) in pilot quality. even called they teach chinese before.
read about what american pilot told about indian pilot...nd show me any major airforce country said something like this for ur turkish pilots.

Exclusive: How Indian MiG-21s Thrashed F-15 Eagles During Military Drills, Shocking USAF Pilots

In 2019, the Indian Air Force MiG-21s entered a dogfight with Pakistan’s F-16s and claimed to have brought down the ‘Fighting Falcon.’ It may have been no fluke. The aircraft, though old, still has some prowess that makes it a legend, and the US Air Force Pilots who came for the first edition of...

www.eurasiantimes.com

 

[Sanglamorre]

He's comparing some 20 countries attacking a single small, sparsely populated Eastern European nation (of which his Air Force was a part) to our AF attacking a full fledged nuclear state with new Chinese toys and at full alert.
This, according to him, is peak Turkish Air Force performance. This also happened some 35 years ago.

Grasping at straws but the straws are rotten too.

Man, Turks are just like Pakistanis.... I always thought you guys were exaggerating in the other thread.

No, we weren't exaggerating

Turks are the Pakis of Europe/Asia Minor. They have this same behaviour most of the time. They are very near to becoming Pakistanis in politics as well considering their leader made deliberate changes to eligibility so that the main political opponent cannot compete (got the court to annul his opponents diploma)

They have no idea what is takes to survive in a sea of madness which is South Asia and China where every major adversary is armed to the teeth and nukes.

Like Pakis they make their own agitprop and believe it. They pretty much think the Ertugrul stuff carried over to modern times and they're still in the same position.

 

[Simon Riley]

Dude, @yasincsoy , I told you last time too, don't speak for the world , enough aviation experts have declared it a strategic victory for india already. You think pakistan won? Great ,answer a simple question if they have indeed won,it would mean the ceasefire was on their conditions then why is the indus water treaty in abeyance? Pakistan still does not get water. If they have won, why were we able to strike their bases with absolute impunity? Striking 11 major bases in the heart of pakistan , conducting SEAD ops, striking terrorist camps at 9 locations when paf was alert means achieving air dominance , if we had to pay a price for it with a few jets, it still changes nothing. We downed your drones buddy they could do nothing absolutely nothing. Stick to selling ice creams and doner kebabs, BTW our forefathers absolutely destroyed you with nothing but spears in ww2 . I guess the spear is still buried somewhere deep within your ass.reply with facts and evidences not opinions and propaganda.

 

[Doreamon]

Comparing our air force and pilots to indian ones is joke!! and insult to ours.
Go try to figure out what whole world thinks of you.

First have a combat with a country having EW system , long range radars of western and chinese origin , long range surface to air missiles , awacs , support from military satellites either own or some other country like china , having a decent airforce with long range air to air missiles and many protected air bases ..
Dropping bombs on militia and civil war torn countries is a different game all together .. You don't even need fighterjets for that . Some male drones are enough . Ask your Pakistani friends how useful are male drones in LOC .

 

[Simon Riley]

Why are we even allowing this turkroach to spit nonsense and consume bandwidth?

 

[Waanar]

This one from 2016

View: https://youtu.be/cqERFb11Rwg?si=M5oPTl2PxRBokBQo&t=214

And this is why planes don't fly close to the ground in uncontested airspace, @yasincsoy .

dude....dont joke too much, we cant handle ur funny comments. compare urself with greece, taiwan etc type countries in air power. even pakistan is better than u guys. whole world u say, when did u interview or survey with 8 billion population of world?? how do u know what whole world think about indian air forces pilot. i guess u spend too much time in pakistan defense forum. they consider themself second best (after america) in pilot quality. even called they teach chinese before.
read about what american pilot told about indian pilot...nd show me any major airforce country said something like this for ur turkish pilots.

Exclusive: How Indian MiG-21s Thrashed F-15 Eagles During Military Drills, Shocking USAF Pilots

In 2019, the Indian Air Force MiG-21s entered a dogfight with Pakistan’s F-16s and claimed to have brought down the ‘Fighting Falcon.’ It may have been no fluke. The aircraft, though old, still has some prowess that makes it a legend, and the US Air Force Pilots who came for the first edition of...

www.eurasiantimes.com

My guy read a few memes and watched a few Turkish YouTube videos hyping up their brotherly Pakistan and thought he'll teach us what a "Real Air Force" is.

Maybe he stops acting like a Paki and starts seeing how, the entire thread, we have been providing proofs and he's been making demeaning statements borne out of anger.

"Oh no, the world thinks poorly of me. It's making my pilots lose hand eye coordination".
Dear god, imagine if hatred affected neural abilities of the hated, us Indians would be sitting here paralyzed.

 

[Waanar]

Why are we even allowing this turkroach to spit nonsense and consume bandwidth?

Don't you fuckers dare ban my dear Turkish friend!

He's helping me learn so much about Turkey and it's people and it's making me feel good about myself.

 

[Vikram314]

Leave IAF does turkey even operate a potent and battle proven AD like us. Build and test this first then compare our IAF to TAF. Our IAF have actually engaged in BVR combat and emerged victorious.

If bombing rag tag militia is considered an elite skill then the indian armed forces have been pounding the pakis at loc since eternity . We have been pounding them with heavy artillery, rockets, HMG, you name it and we have done it and guess what we don't even brag about it.

Let turkey demonstrate what we did in 2019 and on may 7-9 with next to no damage on our side.

 

[Simon Riley]

Don't you fuckers dare ban my dear Turkish friend!

He's helping me learn so much about Turkey and it's people and it's making me feel good about myself.

On a side note if his military and govt are as delusional as him then we have nothing to worry about, pakistan is still fucked.

 

[Azaad]

This is structural upgrade, beside this one Turkish f-16s getting özgür upgrade. Not just block 30s but block 40 and block 50 f-16s will get özgür modernization as well. 4 years ago first structural upgraded f-16 delivered to air force.

Özgür Projesi Kapsamında Modernize Edilen İlk F-16 Teslim Edildi

Savunma Sanayii Başkanlığınca yürütülen Özgür Projesi ile Türkiye artık F-16 savaş uçaklarının yapısal ve aviyonik modernizasyonunu milli ve yerli olarak yapma kabiliyetine ulaştı. F-16 Yapısal İyileştirme […]

www.savunmasanayi.org

2 years ago first özgür f-16 delivered to air force


View: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=9imH1H3aZAs&pp=ygUKRi0xNiBvemd1cg%3D%3D

See the content of özgür modernization in the below link.

Turkey's F-16 'Project Liberty' (Özgür) modernisation

In an exclusive interview the President of SSB Prof. Dr. Ismail Demir spoke to defensehere.com about "Project Liberty (Özgür)". Touching on the needs of the Turkish Air Force for aircrafts, Demir said the following: "Liberty is a project carried out independently of the USA. So, if we were...

www.secretprojects.co.uk

So essentially the US administration extends you a few of the privileges it did Israel permitting you to incorporate certain items into the F-16s , the most vital of which are the mission computer & the AESA radar .

Technically that ought to give you the ability to mate your missiles onto the F-16s as well like air to air missiles , but you haven't by the looks of it . Why ?