AMCA - Advanced Medium Combat Aircraft

Is there an official or semi-official list of the most basic requirements for the AMCA? What will be the largest missile it can carry in its internal weapon bays, and how many of them? What will be its combat radius? And what are the desired supercruise and max speeds?
 
IAF should go for UNFDEFINED 7gen near-space fighter in 2050s when USA, EU, Russia, China will be operating 6gen.
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Satish Sharma Ji said:
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IIT kanpur has developed transparent radar wave absorbing metamaterials named pvb & aptes/pvb. Potentially to be used in AMCA's canopy & eots outer cover & possibly in other programs too like tejas mk2 & tedbf.
The f35 uses similar modern solution instead of traditional iodine dopped canopy like in f22
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I have a question about general aircraft development practices and 5th gen aircraft development life cycle (especially that of Kaan).
I am reading a lot of reports about such individual technology developments that will come to be used by our AMCA. Is that a standard prwctice to develop such large number of individual technologies prior to any prototype being built? Is this the same process that Kaan went through too? Do they have the technologies we have developed for our 5th gen? Or arey they developing them alongside their fighter?

Do my questions even make sense? I ask because I know little about aircraft development life cycle. I do understand that certain technologies need to be developed prior to an aircraft prototype being built but the way I have been reading about AMCA, it seems a majority of sub systems and complementary technologies that make a 5th gen plane an effective 5th gen plane are either already developed or well in their development stage and will be ready by the time prototype is ready. Am I wrong in this conclusion?
 
Bhartiya Sainik said:
IAF should go for UNFDEFINED 7gen near-space fighter in 2050s when USA, EU, Russia, China will be operating 6gen.
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Just my cent I have a idea how would 7th gen look like
Ge is working on pulse jet engine.
They have already developed one.
I suppose it will go in the 7gen.
I had read alot abt it and capabilities but I will have to find a video from a YouTube channel called sandboxx.
He explained real quick.
 
loveindiafrom said:
Is there an official or semi-official list of the most basic requirements for the AMCA? What will be the largest missile it can carry in its internal weapon bays, and how many of them? What will be its combat radius? And what are the desired supercruise and max speeds?
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Heaviest a2a missile would be astra mk3.
Which is almost in development cum testing phase.
Will soon enter testing cum production phase.
Max speed is supposed some mach 2.17 Something around with f414. In suppose largest missile it would carry will be anti radiation missiles Variant of rudram.

There is no semiofficial confirmed list but there are technologies in development which we keep sharing here. As more technologies are developed on time they will then go on in AMCA mk1
And mk2 is going to be alot more advance.
With more powerfull engines.
 
NerVik said:
I have a question about general aircraft development practices and 5th gen aircraft development life cycle (especially that of Kaan).
I am reading a lot of reports about such individual technology developments that will come to be used by our AMCA. Is that a standard prwctice to develop such large number of individual technologies prior to any prototype being built? Is this the same process that Kaan went through too? Do they have the technologies we have developed for our 5th gen? Or arey they developing them alongside their fighter?

Do my questions even make sense? I ask because I know little about aircraft development life cycle. I do understand that certain technologies need to be developed prior to an aircraft prototype being built but the way I have been reading about AMCA, it seems a majority of sub systems and complementary technologies that make a 5th gen plane an effective 5th gen plane are either already developed or well in their development stage and will be ready by the time prototype is ready. Am I wrong in this conclusion?
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In there case they are getting consultancy ig in many key areas even under the table because that's how they progressed there mic so fast which is commendable. Nato & eu firms are blessings for them.
The bae systems is helping them out in consultancy for tech development. They're are doing it by themselves alot of it ig..
It gets easier to develop tech if the consulants provides you the path.

They're program is getting all funds on time they're is no such thing like us public private partnership in order to accelerate developed by getting involved pvt entities.
Not getting pvt firm resulted in ccs delaying in funds for AMCA

While AMCA design developed began in 2009 the design was ready by 2014 or something many new iteration improvements where done it had f22 like intakes now it got f35 like (dsi).
In this time many many technologies where being developed ram coating was one of them it had began back then. The eo sensors are in development so development of associated technology of AMCA is going on for long time.
However protype fabrication funding was released this year it will commence soon then testing then next iteration mk2.
we can derive an advance uttam radar in 1 year from already existing su30 radar. I mean By then

I have no idea abt kaan's associated tech development. I suppose they haven't developed much enough some tech in mid phase some in initial.
They also have indigeneous radar development for f16 upgrade whose next iteration will go on kaan.
I think they have fabricated it I have no idea.
 
Satish Sharma Ji said:
Just my cent I have a idea how would 7th gen look like
Ge is working on pulse jet engine.
They have already developed one.
I suppose it will go in the 7gen.
I had read alot abt it and capabilities but I will have to find a video from a YouTube channel called sandboxx.
He explained real quick.
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> I watch that channel. I know many people are genuinely discussing how to defeat 6gen network of MUMT, but it would be premature to conclude the design of 7gen. 1 thing i can say is that Drone tech would be highly matured & fully autonomous.
> I'm also aware of Pulse Detonation Wave Engine since 1990s as part of rumored Hypersonic jets like Aurora, XR-7, SR-91, etc. But i have always wondered about their application in era of Spy-sat, ICBM with MIRVs, Hypersonic missiles.
> Our 5gen AMCA doesn't have proper timely updates, 6gen roadmap is not defined, so thinking about 7gen is out of vision.
> Our DoD can't increase R&D, expand facilities & teams, can't arrange a proper Turbofan on time by self/JV/import, so it would be impractical to dream of SCRamjet or PDWE aircraft. We might develop Hypersonic missiles.
 
pramodkumar.ca said:
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Entire forum is filled with such people
Some are frustrated with their lives
Some are frustrated with defence production and self dependence
Some are frustrated with their financial conditions
Some are frustrated with their career
But that doesn't mean we say whatever we think and dealing with the topic without reading stuffs

I am not saying you haven't read or understood things
But u can discuss rather throwing opinions
 
pramodkumar.ca said:
Scrape this project and get decent 5ht gen from external parties with made in India - this would save time, cost and bring peace
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So if someone still wants to make Scrap AMCA/Import 5th-Gen, please provide which fighters are available to us,
1. F-22 -Nope
2. F-35 -No. Unless we become Puppet which is unlikely. US itself said that F-35 is never offered.
3. KF-21 - Not a 5th Gen
4. Su-57 - Not a 5th Gen
5. J-20 -Nope
6. TFX Kaan -Still a Monkey Model far from final version.
7. Rafale -Not a 5th Gen.
 
GodEmperorDoom said:
So if someone still wants to make Scrap AMCA/Import 5th-Gen, please provide which fighters are available to us,
1. F-22 -Nope
2. F-35 -No. Unless we become Puppet which is unlikely. US itself said that F-35 is never offered.
3. KF-21 - Not a 5th Gen
4. Su-57 - Not a 5th Gen
5. J-20 -Nope
6. TFX Kaan -Still a Monkey Model far from final version.
7. Rafale -Not a 5th Gen.
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How about Su-75?
(I still want AMCA to succeed,after all how long will we just keep importing sheeit?🥲)
 
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