whatever it is, dont let go of the pressure and momentum we got to keep building MIC within India. do not take shortcuts, the pressure should be to beat pakistan with indigenous weapons so we can stand up to china in the long run.
Seems like India will buy Su 57E while AMCA gets ready by 2035. US is pissed that we are not even considering the F 35A for use by the IAF.
View: https://x.com/ANI/status/1929717632380371195
View: https://x.com/sanjeev__kapoor/status/1929208429320495556
I would lean on the LESS side as there'll be no immediate need for a more powerful engine than the 110kn oneThat was a significant jump actually.
Next gen more powerful engine, should also be able to provide "more electrical " power, which is very vital for future jets, they will consume very high kva.I would lean on the LESS side as there'll be no immediate need for a more powerful engine than the 110kn one
How exactly are we going to build 5th gen jet without engine?To all F35 and Su57 stans , I need to understand what is your understanding about future wars (with Pakistan only ) will look like ?
Do you think that Pakistan will use J35 and to counter that we will use Su57/F35 and the one who will put a first lock will score the kill .
All this 5th Gen buying is putting a hole in our already deficit funds . We need to build our own 5th Gen and in meanwhile focus on BETTER RADARS WHICH CAN DETECT 5TH GEN .
The moment you will get breakthrough there all 5th Gen tech will go for a toss ..
Because there economy was 2nd largest in the world for more than 50 yrs and mostly the money was spent on millitary.Russia’s economy is significantly smaller than that of China—and even India—yet its military-industrial complex is far more advanced and expansive than China’s. why can’t India develop a military-industrial complex as large and advanced as Russia’s?
Not really.There is no universe in which AMCA will enter production before 2040; all these 2035 dates are unrealistic, which is theoretically implausible. Any normal jet has a development period of 20 years, so realistically, AMCA will come in mid-2040s if it follows a normal development path, if compressed, it could be shrunk by 5 years, no way a 10-year compression which our infamous PSUs are promising!!
the actual so called 5th gen fighters, and the future 6th one (including F47, CGAP, SCAF, chinese new jets...) are or will be only stealth to high band radars, like X band fighter radars.To all F35 and Su57 stans , I need to understand what is your understanding about future wars (with Pakistan only ) will look like ?
Do you think that Pakistan will use J35 and to counter that we will use Su57/F35 and the one who will put a first lock will score the kill .
All this 5th Gen buying is putting a hole in our already deficit funds . We need to build our own 5th Gen and in meanwhile focus on BETTER RADARS WHICH CAN DETECT 5TH GEN .
The moment you will get breakthrough there all 5th Gen tech will go for a toss ..
Seems like India will buy Su 57E while AMCA gets ready by 2035. US is pissed that we are not even considering the F 35A for use by the IAF.
View: https://x.com/ANI/status/1929717632380371195
View: https://x.com/sanjeev__kapoor/status/1929208429320495556
I would lean on the LESS side as there'll be no immediate need for a more powerful engine than the 110kn one
You know IAF is cooked when even it's retried Air Marshals are importkhor dallas.
The same lot who refused to induct Tejas calling it a 3 legged cheetah are now dropping their pants and bending over for the one eyed monkey that is Su 57.
Tejas in 2009 was a far better 4th gen aircraft than SU 57 is a 5th gen aircraft in 2025
Su 57 will easily outperform anything in mrfaSu-57 is not true 5gen due to shape issues, etc, but it is like 4.8gen, better than any Su-3X. So LCA cannot be compared to Su-57 on any parameter like weight, stealth, agility, payload, electricity, EW, etc.
Mrigaya (मृगया).I really wonder what new name they will give to AMCA when it gets inducted. Like what Indigenous/Sanskrit name should be appropriate for AMCA.
What's a 5th gen aircraft ?Su-57 is not true 5gen due to shape issues, etc, but it is like 4.8gen, better than any Su-3X. So LCA cannot be compared to Su-57 on any parameter like weight, stealth, agility, payload, electricity, EW, etc.
Su 57 frontal radar cross section is 0.1 and rear section has similar rcs as 4th gen fighter as the engines are completely exposed.What's a 5th gen aircraft ?
- supercruise ? Eurofighter has it
- IWB ? F-111 has it or even ww2 aircrafts
- planform alignment ? J-20 doesn't have it even though it's considered a 5th gen
So there's no hard and fast rule to define a 5th gen. It's a combination of features, even though those features were present in previous gen fighters
I would say an aircraft with adequate frontal stealth for penetration of AD dense airspace, deploy payload and egress without afterburner at supersonic speed, would be considered a 5th gen
By that definition su-57 is a 5th gen even if it's not as stealthy as f-22
My comment was in general not just about su 57Su 57 frontal radar cross section is 0.1 and rear section has similar rcs as 4th gen fighter as the engines are completely exposed.
The issue is with the design itself, awacs will be able spot su57 from far away, j20 and j35 radar cross section is confidential but design wise it looks much stealthier
What's a 5th gen aircraft ?
- supercruise ? Eurofighter has it
- IWB ? F-111 has it or even ww2 aircrafts
- planform alignment ? J-20 doesn't have it even though it's considered a 5th gen
So there's no hard and fast rule to define a 5th gen. It's a combination of features, even though those features were present in previous gen fighters
I would say an aircraft with adequate frontal stealth for penetration of AD dense airspace, deploy payload and egress without afterburner at supersonic speed, would be considered a 5th gen
By that definition su-57 is a 5th gen even if it's not as stealthy as f-22
Aghor se bheter "Bhairav" hai.Cremation ground room sized??? Ever seen tarapith mahashmashan???
As for amca, it can make enemy ground burn till ashes just like pyres burn in shmashan
And amca would be seen like the one who makes the enemy land a cremation ground or invites it
Or best option
Name amca - Aghor