AMCA - Advanced Medium Combat Aircraft

[Hari Sud]

Although this is out of thread topic, but from AMCA's PoV, 2-3 squads as stopgap should not impact AMCA program unless GoI/MoD states.
It is difficult to conclude anything currently bcoz both jets have +/- points, some technical, some political.
F-35 has better quality, stealth, avionics & ahead in time. But USA regime change in future can again do arm-twisting. And how much customization USA will allow is not clear yet. Software world is already tricky & dangerous.
Su-57 has some new & good things like Levcons, DIRCM, TVC & now better stealthy nozzles. But its RCS is still more, no EOTS, engine blocker visible, engine rear nacelle still round, etc. Again, IDK how much customization Russians would allow.

Global leaders' products are considered 1st class. Everyting else, if competing well is also 1st class otherwise 2nd class, that means us also.
We shoud not under-estimate adversaries when we're lagging in all domains of engineering & they already have some products. Our DoD has started to make lots of new things but we still ask for ToT.
Espionage is an ancient thing, so cursing adversaries of copying, reverse-engineering doesn't help us. Such thinking relaxes our progress also. 3rd world nations like India are heaven for spies, moles, traiters, sleeper cells, etc.
Airframe design is visible & can be analysed much more easily than weapons & avionics to which outsiders don't have access.

Currently we've only 1 stealth fighter project AMCA. IN has only indicated 1st time for stealth TEDBF. Our 6gen roadmap is only 1 liner. Su-30MKI's replacement cannot be Su-57. So our DoD has to start talking about it TODAY as it would take 15-20 years to induct it. We don't have afterburning Kaveri yet. JV is not 100% clear yet. There was no technical progress shown on 1:1 static model of AMCA.
So we should focus on ourselves 1st.

Slow down; make your point clearly. War is not breaking out tomorrow or day after tomorrow. Pakistan has no money to fight a war. Chinese have withdrawn to the east to face the might of America. That is the reason Chinese are quietly making peace calls to India. Never start believing propaganda. The Chinese fighter will always be second class.

 

[GodEmperorDoom]

Although this is out of thread topic, but from AMCA's PoV, 2-3 squads as stopgap should not impact AMCA program unless GoI/MoD states.
It is difficult to conclude anything currently bcoz both jets have +/- points, some technical, some political.
F-35 has better quality, stealth, avionics & ahead in time. But USA regime change in future can again do arm-twisting. And how much customization USA will allow is not clear yet. Software world is already tricky & dangerous.
Su-57 has some new & good things like Levcons, DIRCM, TVC & now better stealthy nozzles. But its RCS is still more, no EOTS, engine blocker visible, engine rear nacelle still round, etc. Again, IDK how much customization Russians would allow.

Global leaders' products are considered 1st class. Everyting else, if competing well is also 1st class otherwise 2nd class, that means us also.
We shoud not under-estimate adversaries when we're lagging in all domains of engineering & they already have some products. Our DoD has started to make lots of new things but we still ask for ToT.
Espionage is an ancient thing, so cursing adversaries of copying, reverse-engineering doesn't help us. Such thinking relaxes our progress also. 3rd world nations like India are heaven for spies, moles, traiters, sleeper cells, etc.
Airframe design is visible & can be analysed much more easily than weapons & avionics to which outsiders don't have access.

Currently we've only 1 stealth fighter project AMCA. IN has only indicated 1st time for stealth TEDBF. Our 6gen roadmap is only 1 liner. Su-30MKI's replacement cannot be Su-57. So our DoD has to start talking about it TODAY as it would take 15-20 years to induct it. We don't have afterburning Kaveri yet. JV is not 100% clear yet. There was no technical progress shown on 1:1 static model of AMCA.
So we should focus on ourselves 1st.

You are very technically sound but tactically/strategically aren't. Whatever that 2-3 squadrons don't come atleast before 2030. Any AF takes atleast 3-4 or even 5 years to familiarize with them. Even more so how exactly are you gonna use a foreign 5th-Gen when CCP gonna field 500 J-20s there?

 

[Kontakt5]

You are very technically sound but tactically/strategically aren't. Whatever that 2-3 squadrons don't come atleast before 2030. Any AF takes atleast 3-4 or even 5 years to familiarize with them. Even more so how exactly are you gonna use a foreign 5th-Gen when CCP gonna field 500 J-20s there?

His point is that J20 is second rate 5th gen ‘500’ J20s is an overblown threat they can’t get that many in the air over the lac. They’ll also only be able to field only a fraction of that so a few squadrons. They aren’t true 5th gens so despite being large in number they are not very powerful. All of these factors supposedly evens the playing field.

 

[GodEmperorDoom]

His point is that J20 is second rate 5th gen ‘500’ J20s is an overblown threat they can’t get that many in the air over the lac. They’ll also only be able to field only a fraction of that so a few squadrons. They aren’t true 5th gens so despite being large in number they are not very powerful. All of these factors supposedly evens the playing field.

Come on, are we gonna become like pakis now deluding like this? Su-57 surely is a crap but J-20 isn't.