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Based! geo tagging has a lot of uses. Drone delivery, property registration and security.

This is what I'm saying gormint has a plan we are just not patient enough.

in that case, i've got another one.

this morning my mother and another aunt were in Tirumala . aunt forget her purse somewhere. they looked for a bit, gave up and decided to go down the hill anyways. mid way she gets a call from her home town municipal ward office called grama sachivalayam here, that her bag has been found by thirumala police and go to collect it.

from aadhar, they must have traced the number. but looping in home town municipal ward office for lost and found, this is the first time i am hearing about it. ofcourse some devotee, found the purse and handed it over to the police.

when she went to collect her bag, apparently it was pretty hitech crowd monitoring centre on the hill.
 
Regarding the new geotagging things. Government is also doing the digitalization of Farm lands for sometime giving an Unique ID.

We already moving to digital land records. I think the end result may be streamlining various permissions in future. Like Users can check the validity of the land. Any Industries who want to establish can see the permission they can get, instead of going with every permissions.

Lot of ground work needs to be done which previous parties never done that. Currently their modus operandi is give some money saar to poor people saar. But still poor people cannot move up since it can barely provide temp relief.

GOI is moving for more long term plans where things can be delivered more efficiently.
 
Regarding the new geotagging things. Government is also doing the digitalization of Farm lands for sometime giving an Unique ID.

We already moving to digital land records. I think the end result may be streamlining various permissions in future. Like Users can check the validity of the land. Any Industries who want to establish can see the permission they can get, instead of going with every permissions.

Lot of ground work needs to be done which previous parties never done that. Currently their modus operandi is give some money saar to poor people saar. But still poor people cannot move up since it can barely provide temp relief.

GOI is moving for more long term plans where things can be delivered more efficiently.

it's called encumbrance certificate, isn't it online in your state?

it gives, entire history of ownership of a site.
 
it's called encumbrance certificate, isn't it online in your state?

it gives, entire history of ownership of a site.


When we bought land for our current home, we used the service of lawyer to get complete ownership history. (Around 2009).

But in recent times, there seems to be digitalization of these things, but still not fully done.

Typical state level babus nightmare.
 
When we bought land for our current home, we used the service of lawyer to get complete ownership history. (Around 2009).

But in recent times, there seems to be digitalization of these things, but still not fully done.

Typical state level babus nightmare.

for us it's free online.
to get a signed copy from registrar, it costs 200 ₹ challan at registrar's office.
 
The crux of my argument was :
  1. Australian pays tax => gets decent benefits from govt in return => feels taxes are justified.
  2. Indian pays tax => receives inferior quality benefits from govt + has to bribe everywhere + most benefits accrue to non-tax paying section in form of freebies & subsidies => feels what am I paying taxes for? => feels taxes are high.
Your all 3 points are correct after recent tax cut. However, expectation is not to get same quality of services as developed nation despite paying similar taxes. Expectation is to get at least decent quality services (especially police and judiciary, which build people's trust) and not having to bribe everywhere.
I think I am going in circles so let me make this clear for now, India is NOT a rich nation - the govt's state capacity is NOT on par with some uber rich nations. Its capacity to provide services is limited too. The govt heavily relies on rapid economic growth (and the resultant increase in tax and non tax revenue) to make things better.

It is unrealistic to expect the kind of govt services one can experience in some other nations. India had very generous income tax regime even before today (when compared with other emerging economies). This govt is being pushed to raise indirect taxes in their effort to provide a literal income tax utopia and punishing consumption in the process which is generally considered bad for any emerging economy.

A lot (possibly a majority) of income tax payers benefitted from an already elitist govt set-up - they studied at decent state run institutions and were the direct descendants of a generation of first movers.

Think about this, if the socialist era Indian governments focused on building good quality schools and general vocational colleges (like the former Asian miracle economies) instead of focusing on IITs and IIMs the PIO class wouldn't exist today. Even today a guy from some random tribal village in Chattisgarh stands a negligible chance of making it to any premier state run institution/university and/or move up the socio-economic ladder - with or without reservations and all.

I am not trying to guilt trip anyone here but the mere fact that someone is/was eligible to pay income taxes in India directly implies that he/she directly and disproportionately benefited from the existing state capacity/set-ups at the cost of his/her less fortunate countrymen. If the previous governments pursued a more equitable approach to nation building, a lot of us elites (which includes myself too, btw) would find it way more challenging to be where we are today.

So yeah, I generally don't buy into this "why should I pay taxes when I receive jack from the state compared to this uber rich paradise" argument. Coming from Bengal, I have witnessed first hand how the schools are run across some of the remotest corners of WB - trust me when I say this, barring a few maybe, none of us would be able to write these long ass essays in English if we were born in those villages. The path to upward mobility does not exist there. Try as they might, they just cannot find a way to make 4-5X the per capita income.

Being able to pay income taxes is and was a privilege in India. And it should be viewed as such - which is kinda ironic because nobody likes paying taxes.
 
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