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Here's my vision

1.1 Remove every single caste/religion/minority based reservations from all the educational institutions.
1.2 Have a small reservation for specially abled people because even God has betrayed them.
1.3 And as for "reservation" just have one comprehensive, income based "reservation system" like if your income is X, the fee of this course in this college is Y then government would provide you (Y-X)=Z. Have strict measures to prevent anyone from gaming the system by things like forging fake BPL documents.
1.4 Drastically increase the number of education institutions and their quality. Definitely we need good UG and PG colleges but we need exponentially better education system for 1-12th, especially in the hinterlands.
1.5 I don't think most of the kids in Class 1 indulges in Brahmin - Rajput - Chamar bs, so start "indoctrinating" them from that stage only with good quality education and worldview by having good quality free, sarkaari skool. Stop the discrimination at this stage only
1.6 If this works well then when he or she would come out of this system in 12th then they'd have had so much of good education that they can compete easily with everyone based on just their merit without needing any caste based reservation. "Mohan Paswan" who enrolled in class 1 is now just a student who got 87% in CBSE 12th; there's no sign of caste left.
1.7 And in case someone is meritorious but not financially capable then we already have our income based reservation system in place. So doesn't matter if you're a bhutiya or a santhal or a sandilya brahmin...if you're meritorious and can't pay the fee then government would help.
1.8 And if you're not meritorious then why the hell are you not meritorious? When there was free, indiscriminate education from 1-12th with sufficient capacity for every child then still how did you lag!?
1.9 Absolutely no reservations in companies. Maybe a small percentage for veterans or agniveer to encourage people to join military but that's it. Everything on merit.
1.10 Deal with all the caste issues of say a tribe in Chattisgarh by improving infrastructure there, not by reserving seats for them in a college in Bangalore.
1.# Now this one's a bonus, when you'd implement this then multitudes of people would riot, arson, damage public properties for no concrete reasons...simply arrest them, withdraw every single government support (even Aadhar card) and keep them in for few years.

Or

2 We can do this. If the next say CM is OBC then OBC quota increased to 40%. If the one after is SC then now SC quota becomes 40%. And then the CM is ST so now ST is 40%.

So tell me, which one @vin pahadi (kumauni)
agreed with all points...except reservation based on poverty. if a poor already
getting free education untill 12th class, mid day meal, fees grant, scholarship nd some states (like uttarakhand) providing free tablets/laptop/mobile to all poor (income level below 200000) in 10th nd 12th class...beside this if free books, dress nd very low education loans also provided them...than i dont think any poor should be given reservation in colleges nd jobs. if poor student is selecting due to reservation, they already ending merit.

beside this for poors, there r many government schemes to make their life better.
 
What can we do here!!

He was justifying lowering of selection criteria in Police force induction for SC/ST!! He was ok with lowering height requirement to crazy low ~152-155 cm for SC/ST!

I decided not to engage with him any further after that.
lol...u guys r fool. mene kab bola ki SC/ST ki height 152-155 cm kar do?? kuch bhi😂.
maine bola high altitude uttarakhand ke logo ki height, uttarakhand me other state se aa kr base logo se kam hoti hai. just like as gorkha people in nepal. ye geographical trait hai.
or ye SC/ST ki maang nhi...mostly genral ki demand hai. ja ke pehle is baare me research kr lo, fir baat kro.
tum hi log hote ho, jo pehle SC/ST ko reservation ke liye taane sunate ho, jab genral ke reservation ginane lagte hai, tab ushe poverty ka bahana bana kr justify krte ho...😂😝

 
What can we do here!!

He was justifying lowering of selection criteria in Police force induction for SC/ST!! He was ok with lowering height requirement to crazy low ~152-155 cm for SC/ST!

I decided not to engage with him any further after that.
 
agreed with all points...except reservation based on poverty. if a poor already
getting free education untill 12th class, mid day meal, fees grant, scholarship nd some states (like uttarakhand) providing free tablets/laptop/mobile to all poor (income level below 200000) in 10th nd 12th class...beside this if free books, dress nd very low education loans also provided them...than i dont think any poor should be given reservation in colleges nd jobs. if poor student is selecting due to reservation, they already ending merit.

beside this for poors, there r many government schemes to make their life better.
• from a tribe in the depths of Jharkhand, got free education upto 12th, very brilliant, secured admission in a government college, say even an IIT
• how's he or she going to manage the fee? Even low level NITs can easily get 6 lakhs, add accomodation too
• there's no collateral that his or her parents can use to secure education loan
what to do now?

Also I mentioned additional schools and colleges. So if this much CapEx is happening then there should be something to balance it right. And the most obvious route is hiking the fee.

I know the problems with economical type reservation and how it's extremely easy to game the system and prove you're from EWS. That's why I went to this length in crafting a meticulous system that's more like a scholarship but does the work of reservation.
 
• from a tribe in the depths of Jharkhand, got free education upto 12th, very brilliant, secured admission in a government college, say even an IIT
• how's he or she going to manage the fee? Even low level NITs can easily get 6 lakhs, add accomodation too
• there's no collateral that his or her parents can use to secure education loan
what to do now?

Also I mentioned additional schools and colleges. So if this much CapEx is happening then there should be something to balance it right. And the most obvious route is hiking the fee.

I know the problems with economical type reservation and how it's extremely easy to game the system and prove you're from EWS. That's why I went to this length in crafting a meticulous system that's more like a scholarship but does the work of reservation.
i m talking about that kind of scholarship who compensate with high professional courses fees. there r some scholarships for poor, who deal with high fees like engineering. low interest based education loans should be given to middle class.

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i m talking about that kind of scholarship who compensate with high professional courses fees. there r some scholarships for poor, who deal with high fees like engineering.
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Yup, you're kind of getting my idea

Remove all major caste based reservations and in place of them have one major "Pradhan Mantri, Saalon Ab To Padh Likh Kar Thoda Scientific Temperament Develope Kar Lo Yojna" instead of all these fragmented schemes
 
lol...u guys r fool. mene kab bola ki SC/ST ki height 152-155 cm kar do?? kuch bhi😂.
maine bola high altitude uttarakhand ke logo ki height, uttarakhand me other state se aa kr base logo se kam hoti hai. just like as gorkha people in nepal. ye geographical trait hai.
or ye SC/ST ki maang nhi...mostly genral ki demand hai. ja ke pehle is baare me research kr lo, fir baat kro.
tum hi log hote ho, jo pehle SC/ST ko reservation ke liye taane sunate ho, jab genral ke reservation ginane lagte hai, tab ushe poverty ka bahana bana kr justify krte ho...😂😝

Yes, since God made only you with Brain and rest of us are brainless and not capable of any research and thoughts, there is no point having any debate or discussion with you.​
 
i m talking about that kind of scholarship who compensate with high professional courses fees. there r some scholarships for poor, who deal with high fees like engineering. low interest based education loans should be given to middle class.

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I am asking you again. Choose any ONE of the following options (no explanation required; just pick one).

Option 1. You want reservations based on family backgrounds (present system).

Option 2. You want reservations based on family incomes (irrespective of tribe/caste/community affiliations).

Option 3. You want no reservations at all.

Option 4. You want scholarships etc for others (UCs, OBCs etc) but reservations for STs.

Option 5: Something else (please specify).

Do not pick more than one. Thanks.
 
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Yes, since God made only you with Brain and rest of us are brainless and not capable of any research and thoughts, there is no point having any debate or discussion with you.​
lol...agar tumhra argument ye hai ki chote height wale army ya police me bharti hone ke layak nhi...to fir bhai army/police ko bole ki in regiment ko khatam kr de...or ek common height 170 cm sabke liye rakh le. mujhe thodi join hona hai army me, jese tum react kr rahe😝.
1:- ladhakh squads.
2:- naga regiments.
3:- gorkha regiment.
in teeno me minimum height 157 cm hai.
 
.mostly genral ki demand hai. ja ke pehle is baare me research kr lo, fir baat kro.
tum hi log hote ho, jo pehle SC/ST ko reservation ke liye taane sunate ho, jab genral ke reservation ginane lagte hai, tab ushe poverty ka bahana bana kr justify krte ho...😂😝

The ones you are trying to gaslight (muh generols) are NOT a politically organized homogeneous lot. They are not taking out rallies demanding an end to reservation. They are not making political movements asking for a new quota every other week. The large majority has already made peace with it to an extent that 'reservations' aren't even an issue they consider before voting.

At best, a tiny fraction will whine online but that will be it. This same lot is super whiny and complains a lot over a range of other issues too (taxes, QoL etc).

Taking that goodwill for granted and gaslighting them are just cheap antics. Do not do this.

You are comparing some online rants from internet nobodies with actual politically backed movements? Seriously?
 
lol...agar tumhra argument ye hai ki chote height wale army ya police me bharti hone ke layak nhi...to fir bhai army/police ko bole ki in regiment ko khatam kr de...or ek common height 170 cm sabke liye rakh le. mujhe thodi join hona hai army me, jese tum react kr rahe😝.
1:- ladhakh squads.
2:- naga regiments.
3:- gorkha regiment.
in teeno me minimum height 157 cm hai.
You have some serious problem with comprehension and expressions (specially in English).

As you have been told by other members already, we are not Modi, Army Generals, etc who will make amendments to rules, law and policies.

You mix different things together every time. These are different specialized regiments. You are mixing it with general Police intake.​
 
I am asking you again. Choose any ONE of the following options (no explanation required; just pick one).

Option 1. You want reservations based on family backgrounds (present system).

Option 2. You want reservations based on family incomes (irrespective of tribes/caste/community).

Option 3. You want no reservations at all.

Option 4. You want scholarships etc for others (UCs, OBCs etc) but reservations for STs.

Option 5: Something else (please specify).

Do not pick more than one. Thanks.
option 3:- if every student hv same condition nd starting point.
 
option 3:- if every student hv same condition nd starting point.
Dei, why are you even arguing when this is something you agree with?

'Same starting point' is a very subjective criterion btw. No two guys can have the same starting point ever; this is NOT a race.

Just in case if it wasn't clear already - I, for sure, have no issue using your quotas btw. You were NOT responsible for our reservation laws (those who drafted them were UCs only). I won't blame your for taking advantage of it (even if you were born privileged and all that). So you do not have to get emotional over it either.
 
You have some serious problem with comprehension and expressions (specially in English).

As you have been told by other members already, we are not Modi, Army Generals, etc who will make amendments to rules, law and policies.

You mix different things together every time. These are different specialized regiments. You are mixing it with general Police intake.​
baat chal rahi thi police requirement me kam height me lene ki...to mene bola ki army me bhi height relaxation di gayi hai uttarakhand me. jab army tak me height relaxation mila hai sabko (including genral) to police me agr kam height le rahe to kya problem hai??? ye mera logic tha.
police department walo ka itna to dimag hoga ki kaun si minimum height tak ke log, us job ke liye fit hai. agr tumko lagta hai ki ye sahi nhi, to court me ja ke iske against challenge kro. nd apne logic vaha pe do. ye to tum bina modi or yogi huwe bhi kr sakte ho😝.
mera main point tha ki agr geographically kisi area me logo ki height kam hai others se. to unhe height relaxation milna chahiye. jo mil bhi raha hai. tum usko genral vs SC/ST kr rahe. 😂
 
Dei, why are you even arguing when this is something you agree with?

'Same starting point' is a very subjective criterion btw. No two guys can have the same starting point ever; this is NOT a race.

Just in case if it wasn't clear already - I, for sure, have no issue using your quotas btw. You were NOT responsible for our reservation laws (those who drafted them were UCs only). I won't blame your for taking advantage of it (even if you were born privileged and all that). So you do not have to get emotional over it either.
yes...sabka starting point same nhi hota. but mai baat kr raha, facilities ki. sabko same level ke teachers nd facilities milni chahiye. jisse ki har student ko provide hone wala education level similar ho. i mean agr others ko post graduation level ke teacher mil rahe primary classes me, to dusro ko 12th pass nd graduation level ke teacher nhi milne chahiye.
ab tum mujhse baat kr rahe personally...to mujhe abhi tak koi quota nhi mila. coz mai BA kr raha. usme direct admission ho jaata hai. koi merit list nhi banti. or rahi baat government job ki to mai uttarakhand me bhut kam nikalte hai nd mai padta bhi sirf exam time me hu. mujhe to khud ka chota mota business krna hai, ya fir tracking guide etc. or bhai just for ur information mai "so called poor😂" me hi aata hu, coz meri family ki income 800000 se kam hi hai. ab tum others ko to usme poor bol rahe, but mujhe privileged bol rahe to mai kya bol sakta hu😂. ab aage tum ishe sach mano ya jhoot, ye tumhri marzi hai.
mai reservation topic me isliye bolta hu, coz many genral social media me reservation ko le ke SC/ST ko bhut criticize krte hai. like "free ka maal kha rahe or muft ka khaa rahe or humare seat le rahe etc"...to mai sirf genral ko ye bata raha ki genral bhi different reservation ke benefit le raha hai. agr reservation ko criticise krna hai to policy ko karo, SC/ST ko kyu kr rahe. ye saare rules banane wale bhi majority genral thi parliament me, agr inme change hoga vo bhi majority genral hi kregi parliament me. fir humko kyu hate/criticize kr rahe.
 
What can we do here!!

He was justifying lowering of selection criteria in Police force induction for SC/ST!! He was ok with lowering height requirement to crazy low ~152-155 cm for SC/ST!

I decided not to engage with him any further after that.
Exactly. No point arguing about something you can’t possibly do anything about. Just accept it as fate accompli and move on.
 
hello again to all

last time i posted on chit chat, i mentioned about difficult phase i was going through in life; but things have taken a turn for me, and seems a good turn at it,

mostly my parents' health was the root cause, but they are doing fine, my siblings got married in last marriage season and most importantly,

there are chances i may get a government job within next three-four months

(sidenote, as a believer in jyotish, i'm going through shani sade sati final phase, and i've seen lots of things in last five years through it, so yeah)

now, something about me to explain my case here
- started working as a low paying frontend developer thing (i do javascript coding mainly) in 2021, stuck to same line of work, recent market disruption in field of IT for us low level coders due to all saturation from available candidates and AI boom further ruined my chances to hop on different career paths in IT, so i mostly stuck around with whatever was available
- through these years, starting from my college till now, most relatives of mine in extended family, never bothered much with keeping up with me - i don't get any diwali greeting or anything ever on whatsapp, they don't call me, even on occasions of family gathering and all, i'm mostly treated like an invisible person - i used to blame it on my introverted persona but lately after understanding some looksmaxxing and 🏴💊 stuffs, i have come to accept it that i'm simply not desirable in their eyes; so i eventually made up my peace with it and moved on
- now, my father...after getting it that i might get a govt job...he blew the bugles among family about this "win"
- all those fuckers in my extended family who ever looked down on me, showered me with congratulations all sudden 🤷‍♂️ i was like, ok it happens
- but most interesting thing that's happened-happening in my life right now, these same relatives who treated me like nothing ARE COMING FORWARD WITH MARRIAGE PROPOSALS FOR SOME GIRLs IN THEIR EXTENDED FAMILIES OR SO FOR ME... 🤷‍♂️ so far i've received three different proposals

i know i should be happy and all, but rather, i'm simply sceptical or even outright distrustful of these fuckers who are trying to woo me and my family now just because i could get that sweet cosy (not really) and 'stable' govt job 😒 and i certainly don't want to become that 'option' for those alleged bigadi baap ki beti - i simply don't have capacity except violence to handle such things

so i'm asking for your big brotherly advise here, all my experienced DFIans-DFBans; i'm of course at that age to be married off and willing to settle down, but keeping all realities in mind, this is what i seek

- i don't really care about looks as long as a girl's presentable enough, i don't even mind if she's taller than me (and i'm relatively on shorter side 🤷‍♂️), i give rat's ass to my perception or "status" among muh samaaj or family about my life partner-to-be
- i have aversion towards working women, and i don't want a wife already doing or planning to do any job; but thing is my kanjoos father wishes to tie me up with some working woman as he believes "aaj ke jamane me dono log kamaenge toh hi ghar chal paega" 😒
- ideally i wanted to uplift a poor family girl from my caste through marriage, but same as above, my kanjoos father would not approve of such things
- i have not been to much relationships or even friendships with girls, and i'm extremely anti-social when it comes to things like most "shaukh" muh hobbies prevalent among normie youth like movies, tv, cricket and partying-dining out etc - i'm more like an otaku nerd type who takes enjoyment in singular hobbies and have niche interests (well my presence on a defense forum is sufficient to tell that) ; but due to all that i feel "outdated" to break the ice of discussions among public or feel like i perhaps won't be able to relate with most girls of this era; and i don't want to pick a wrong life partner as this is 'make or break' type of decision for my life
- finally, like your typical lower middle class fellow, my requirements in a girl are simple => must be family oriented, must be willing to take role of a homemaker, must cook and take responsibility of my kitchen, must be willing to bear kids as soon as possible and ABOVE ALL MUST NOT BE A CHHINAAR - last being most important thing

so, i'd like your pov, opinions, suggestions et al about this, oh you all DFIan-DFBan friends here with lots of experiences in your respective lives
:pray:
 
hello again to all

last time i posted on chit chat, i mentioned about difficult phase i was going through in life; but things have taken a turn for me, and seems a good turn at it,

mostly my parents' health was the root cause, but they are doing fine, my siblings got married in last marriage season and most importantly,

there are chances i may get a government job within next three-four months

(sidenote, as a believer in jyotish, i'm going through shani sade sati final phase, and i've seen lots of things in last five years through it, so yeah)

now, something about me to explain my case here
- started working as a low paying frontend developer thing (i do javascript coding mainly) in 2021, stuck to same line of work, recent market disruption in field of IT for us low level coders due to all saturation from available candidates and AI boom further ruined my chances to hop on different career paths in IT, so i mostly stuck around with whatever was available
- through these years, starting from my college till now, most relatives of mine in extended family, never bothered much with keeping up with me - i don't get any diwali greeting or anything ever on whatsapp, they don't call me, even on occasions of family gathering and all, i'm mostly treated like an invisible person - i used to blame it on my introverted persona but lately after understanding some looksmaxxing and 🏴💊 stuffs, i have come to accept it that i'm simply not desirable in their eyes; so i eventually made up my peace with it and moved on
- now, my father...after getting it that i might get a govt job...he blew the bugles among family about this "win"
- all those fuckers in my extended family who ever looked down on me, showered me with congratulations all sudden 🤷‍♂️ i was like, ok it happens
- but most interesting thing that's happened-happening in my life right now, these same relatives who treated me like nothing ARE COMING FORWARD WITH MARRIAGE PROPOSALS FOR SOME GIRLs IN THEIR EXTENDED FAMILIES OR SO FOR ME... 🤷‍♂️ so far i've received three different proposals

i know i should be happy and all, but rather, i'm simply sceptical or even outright distrustful of these fuckers who are trying to woo me and my family now just because i could get that sweet cosy (not really) and 'stable' govt job 😒 and i certainly don't want to become that 'option' for those alleged bigadi baap ki beti - i simply don't have capacity except violence to handle such things

so i'm asking for your big brotherly advise here, all my experienced DFIans-DFBans; i'm of course at that age to be married off and willing to settle down, but keeping all realities in mind, this is what i seek

- i don't really care about looks as long as a girl's presentable enough, i don't even mind if she's taller than me (and i'm relatively on shorter side 🤷‍♂️), i give rat's ass to my perception or "status" among muh samaaj or family about my life partner-to-be
- i have aversion towards working women, and i don't want a wife already doing or planning to do any job; but thing is my kanjoos father wishes to tie me up with some working woman as he believes "aaj ke jamane me dono log kamaenge toh hi ghar chal paega" 😒
- ideally i wanted to uplift a poor family girl from my caste through marriage, but same as above, my kanjoos father would not approve of such things
- i have not been to much relationships or even friendships with girls, and i'm extremely anti-social when it comes to things like most "shaukh" muh hobbies prevalent among normie youth like movies, tv, cricket and partying-dining out etc - i'm more like an otaku nerd type who takes enjoyment in singular hobbies and have niche interests (well my presence on a defense forum is sufficient to tell that) ; but due to all that i feel "outdated" to break the ice of discussions among public or feel like i perhaps won't be able to relate with most girls of this era; and i don't want to pick a wrong life partner as this is 'make or break' type of decision for my life
- finally, like your typical lower middle class fellow, my requirements in a girl are simple => must be family oriented, must be willing to take role of a homemaker, must cook and take responsibility of my kitchen, must be willing to bear kids as soon as possible and ABOVE ALL MUST NOT BE A CHHINAAR - last being most important thing

so, i'd like your pov, opinions, suggestions et al about this, oh you all DFIan-DFBan friends here with lots of experiences in your respective lives
:pray:
• stay clear of 9K111 and MiG-15 type people who came for you only after they saw money
• focus on your career, learn new things. Maybe a language (not C++ type bs, but an actual language), it really improves your creativity
• if things are finally improving in your life then enjoy it. Try foods, go places, if you're into religion then start with a Jyotirling or a Shaktipeeth or otherwise any serene, nature type place. Perspective of life would change
• never marry a girl because of pressure/relatives/arrange marriage/caste or whatever.
Marry someone whom you love and perhaps more importantly, who loves you equally.

Baaki to our Johny Baba would definitely find a Radhe Maa for him
insh'Allah
 
i know i should be happy and all, but rather, i'm simply sceptical or even outright distrustful of these fuckers who are trying to woo me and my family now just because i could get that sweet cosy (not really) and 'stable' govt job 😒 and i certainly don't want to become that 'option' for those alleged bigadi baap ki beti - i simply don't have capacity except violence to handle such things

so i'm asking for your big brotherly advise here, all my experienced DFIans-DFBans; i'm of course at that age to be married off and willing to settle down, but keeping all realities in mind, this is what i seek

- i don't really care about looks as long as a girl's presentable enough, i don't even mind if she's taller than me (and i'm relatively on shorter side 🤷‍♂️), i give rat's ass to my perception or "status" among muh samaaj or family about my life partner-to-be
- i have aversion towards working women, and i don't want a wife already doing or planning to do any job; but thing is my kanjoos father wishes to tie me up with some working woman as he believes "aaj ke jamane me dono log kamaenge toh hi ghar chal paega" 😒
- ideally i wanted to uplift a poor family girl from my caste through marriage, but same as above, my kanjoos father would not approve of such things
- i have not been to much relationships or even friendships with girls, and i'm extremely anti-social when it comes to things like most "shaukh" muh hobbies prevalent among normie youth like movies, tv, cricket and partying-dining out etc - i'm more like an otaku nerd type who takes enjoyment in singular hobbies and have niche interests (well my presence on a defense forum is sufficient to tell that) ; but due to all that i feel "outdated" to break the ice of discussions among public or feel like i perhaps won't be able to relate with most girls of this era; and i don't want to pick a wrong life partner as this is 'make or break' type of decision for my life
- finally, like your typical lower middle class fellow, my requirements in a girl are simple => must be family oriented, must be willing to take role of a homemaker, must cook and take responsibility of my kitchen, must be willing to bear kids as soon as possible and ABOVE ALL MUST NOT BE A CHHINAAR - last being most important thing

so, i'd like your pov, opinions, suggestions et al about this, oh you all DFIan-DFBan friends here with lots of experiences in your respective lives
:pray:

>tfw other guys here also want a normal woman to wife and not some chalu raand that will cause you to end up like the 24 page suicide note guy
>tfw me blackpilled about wimmonz, suspicious about them and in general of ((( marriageable age )))
>I pray to God that He sets me up with a good girl/nice girl, otherwise it is better to be career-oriented sanyasi like Baba Shri Shri Pradhan Mantri below

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