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Azaad said:
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When it comes to the Mongols, I've always wondered why they didn't take out Mecca & Medina when they were razing Baghdad back to the stone ages. Apart from the Qarmatians, that was possibly one of the few chances the world ever had to completely erase this religion from the planet. Perhaps the Mongols were only interested in wealth & loot and not that much in religion. I don't really know. But a thought experiment in alternate history nevertheless.
 
An interesting case of ethnic Tibetan TFR. Despite all odds and all the social engineering/demographic changes being forced by the CCP, the Tibetan fertility rate is atleast double or triple that of the Han in many cases.
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The Dalai Lama's revenge: the high fertility of Tibetans in China

BY WILLIAM HUANG -- Despite all odds, ethnic Tibetans, especially the 2.5 million rural Tibetans in the TAR, continue to have above replacement rate TFRs and, in some cases, ultra-high fertility rates.
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The Han for some reason is very intent on breeding themselves out of existence.
 

Al-Natah: 4,000-Year-Old Ancient Town Discovered In Saudi Arabian Oasis​

Archaeologists have uncovered a 4,000-year-old fortified town in Saudi Arabia, illustrating the gradual shift from nomadic to urban lifestyles.​


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Al-Natah: 4,000-Year-Old Ancient Town Discovered In Saudi Arabian Oasis

Archaeologists have uncovered a 4,000-year-old fortified town named al-Natah in northwest Saudi Arabia, illustrating the gradual shift from nomadic to urban lifestyles.
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Bronze Age Town of Al-Natah Represents ‘Slow Urbanism,’ Archaeologists Say | Sci.News

Northwestern Arabia -- the region between Mecca and Aqaba -- during the Bronze Age was dotted with interconnected monumental walled oases centered around small fortified towns such as the recently-discovered town of al-Natah in Khaybar Oasis, the Saudi Arabian province of Medinah.
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Miss Firing said:

Lost Maya city discovered in Mexico​


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Funniest thing is,the mexicans themselves don't try to claim these heritages of theirs but gladly kang on "We wuzz descendants of spanish christian colonizers n sheet" to try to get along with the wignats,despite most of them having native dna with some european admixture.
Kinda like the porks.
 

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My video for this Easter:

Most people have no idea that the Romans celebrated a “Death & Resurrection” festival called Hilaria (for the god Attis) during the week of the Spring Equinox which used to be fixed at March 25 on the old Julian Calendar.

This festival included a burial of a pine tree with an effigy of the dead god Attis on March 22 followed by ritual mourning and then a “rejoicing” ceremony exactly on the 3rd day—March 25th in which a priest would chant “rejoice, god has been saved—and through his sufferings we have salvation!” (Firmicus Maternus)

(Link in the comments) 🧵

Most of the sources are admittedly late—which is why so many scholars don’t talk about this.

However, ALL of primary sources from antiquity that discuss the origins of this festival say that it was instituted by Claudius Caesar in the 40s A.D.

Decades before the Gospels.

Even John of Lydia, the greatest Byzantine scholar from the 5th century who had access to tons of sources that we have since lost also tells us that it was Claudius who instituted the Hilaria.

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At this point it seems clear practically every festival of the Abrahamic faiths was derived from festivals of other older religions which they appropriated before effectively stamping out those religions & wiping out all traces of those religions , their traditions & customs. Or so they thought.

If Christianity borrows heavily from Judaism, the Roman religion, Greek religion, Celtic religions & other such pagan faiths & religions, Judaism in turn has borrowed a lot from the older Babylonian religion & other such faiths from ancient locations in what's now Iraq, Phoenician peoples, the Canaanites & other such ancient peoples's faith from the areas now known as the Levant.

Let's not even discuss Islam which is a heresy of an older heresy called Judaism.

What the tweet describes is not merely Easter but the central idea of Christianity namely the Death & Resurrection of JC in 3 days. So much for JC being the Messiah who was supposed to rebuild the Temple in Jerusalem & lead the Jews back into Jerusalem, when the temple very much stood tall in the time of JC & the Jews were very much in Israel & Jerusalem.

Since he couldn't fulfill the prophecy out came the death & resurrection sleight of hand, with the promise that JC would return when the time was right to fulfill both tasks a Messiah was supposed to fulfill in his first & only avatar, in the first place .

Do note Judaism doesn't believe in reincarnation or resurrection from the dead stories or rather excuses.
 
00:00:00 How many statues were taken by the British from this one temple called the Satpura temple? Is it 0, 16, 160 or 1,600? If you watch till the end of this video, you're going to be shocked at the real answer. Usually I'll show you what's there in temples, but today I'm going to do the opposite. I'm going to find what's not there. Let's begin. Now, let's go straight into the main chamber of this 750 year old temple. The chamber is filled with extraordinary lathe turned pillars and some insane ceilings

00:00:53 which are truly unexplainable. This is what is there. But look carefully. Do you see what's not there? Look at this pillar alone. Do you see what's missing? Nothing. Right? Look at this part. Why would a pillar have such a projection here? Maybe to keep lamps for decorative purposes. Right? This is the mainstream theory. And these lamp holders are on all four sides of the pillar. Let me put my camera up top and take a look at how this so-called lamp holder looks inside. You see this deep depression? There is

00:01:41 no reason to have this deep depression. There was another reason for creating this pit on each one of the socalled lamp holder. You will see this. But now look carefully above the pillar. What about this hole? Why do you see another hole created exactly above this depression? Again, you'll see about each one of this so-called lamp holder. You will see a hole. Why did ancient builders put a hole on top and a hole at the bottom? Because they installed the statue between these two holes using these two pits to support the statue. So

00:02:29 around this pillar you had four statues of dancing women called Madanikas. This is just a theory, right? We don't have any evidence to support this, right? No, I have good evidence. If you go to the Chennai temple at Bour, which is considered a sister site of Somnata, you will see four Madanikas around every lathe turned pillar in front of the sanctum sanctur. And if you look carefully, you will see the slot above and how the statue was installed. And because these statues in Bor are not stolen, thankfully we cannot see the

00:03:15 depression at the bottom. You can see the same lathe turned pillars with the same ceilings in Chenneshawa temple with four madanikas around each pillar. And this temple is called Keshawa temple at Somnata. And you can see the same ceilings and same lathe turned pillars. But all the statues were stolen and they are in the hands of the British Museum, European museums and with private collectors. There are four pillars in front of the sanctum and each pillar had four statues. So a total of 16 idols

00:03:59 have been stolen and they were stolen by the British when they were ruling India and they've never returned these statues. By the way, historians who think these are lamp holders should just look a few feet below. The lamp holders are carved right below at the base of the same pillars. So there should be absolutely no doubt that 16 statues were stolen from the Satpura temple. But I just created a clickbait title to get a lot of views, right? How can 160 statues be taken from one temple, right? Before

00:04:43 I show you more evidence, let me show you the main idols. Yes, I said idols in plural. Usually Hindu temples will have just one main statue but Somnata temple is very unique and it houses three main statues of Vishnu in three different chambers. These three statues you see on the screen. But do you see anything wrong with the statue in the center? The main statue of these temples are always made with shiny black rock. But the statue in the center is not so black and not so shiny. Something is fundamentally

00:05:30 wrong with it. Right? And look at the discoloration here. The arms are of a different color and the rest of the body is of a different color. This would never happen with an ancient statue. It would have been completely black and shiny. So why does this statue look different? Because it's not original. The British stole the main statue. Yes, the main idol of Keshawa from the central chamber. And if you look at the base, you can see the gap between the statue and the base. And if you look carefully, you can even see the

00:06:12 depression here. This is definitely not the original statue. Let's go back to another main chamber in the same temple which still has the original main statue. Here you can see a perfect fit with no gaps or depressions. It's very hard to notice this. Most people see but not really observe these details. So this statue is original but the one in the central chamber is not and the original priceless statue of Keshava is held by the British Museum. Okay. So a total of 17 statues were stolen. Right?

00:06:58 No. Let's go outside and see what's not there. The outer view of Somnatra is fabulous. It has three different towers and the temple walls are adorned with a lot of amazing carvings. But remember, your eyes only see what is there. Humans don't have the natural ability to see what's not there. But you see here, you see this extension sticking out of the wall. And directly above it, you see that slot there. Look carefully in all these places. Yes, there were a lot of giant statues placed here as well. This

00:07:43 is why you see this stone extending from the wall. Uh this is the base and directly on top you see the slot because between these two slots there was a statue and not just one or two. I calculate that at least 50 giant statues were placed between these slots and they've all been stolen. Again, you can find the exact same detail in Chenneshawa temple. You can see these idols placed outside the temple walls up top exactly in the same position. So, we know these statues existed and were stolen. So, the count of stolen statues

00:08:29 just went up from 17 to 67. By the way, did you notice the ancient ventilators? They look very magical. They have a very odd shape. Now, if you look at them long enough or look through them, they give you a psychedelic effect. The shape of each one is quite extraordinary except in some places at the eye level the ventilators are just ugly squares. Why would the ancient builders leave some holes as squares? Because there was a statue covering this. That's why ancient builders did not bother to shape them

00:09:16 because the statue was originally placed here and it covered the square holes. You see this bottom projection? There was a statue placed here. So this statue was stolen making the count to 68. And like this we can see at least another 32 statues missing like here, here, here, and here making it into a total of 100 stolen statues. And I'm getting tired of counting here. So I will just add the number of stolen statues at the top right corner. Now if you look around you can see this hall adorned with beautiful

00:10:01 pillars. The Somnatra temple has a hallway built around it. But do you see those doors? If you walk around you will find a total of 64 chambers. And yes each one is a chamber housing a beautiful statue of Vishno. Let me show you the ancient Vishnu statue inside this chamber. Gone, stolen. Maybe I'm cherrypicking information and showing you just one statue missing out of uh 64 chambers. Right here is another one gone. Another one gone. Locals tell us that each chamber housed a beautiful metal statue of Lord Vishnu.

00:10:53 Archaeological reports say they housed Vic deities. How many of the 64 statues are missing? All of them. Yes. All 64 statues have been stolen. So you see the number of stolen statues have come to 164 surpassing the number 160. You might have thought that there's no way the British took60 statues but yes they have. In fact we are just scratching the surface of the missing idols in these shrines. According to some historians, each chamber in this hall housed at least 10 statues. Think about this. Today, if you

00:11:42 look at any temple chamber housing Lord Vishnu's statue, it won't be alone. You will also have a statue of Lakshmi, his wife, and his mount Garuda amongst other idols. These statues have also been stolen. And this is why we see random standalone statues of Garuda and Lakshmi standing alone in all these museums in Europe and the US. Garuda is usually never shown without Vishnu. But why do we see so many Garudas in museums? They've all been taken together, then separated and sold to museums. So from

00:12:28 each of these chambers at least three statues would have been stolen. So the stolen count is not 164. It's actually 292. Some experts think each chamber had more than 10 statues, but I'm not going to take that number because there's no way of confirming this. And that number is way too high. Some reports even claim that not all of them were metal statues and some were stone statues and some of them are in a dilapidated condition still kept in a corner of the temple. But this theory does not hold water

00:13:13 because we can even see Jane statues kept here. So they're not original statues from these chambers. Okay. The British actually took hundreds of statues from this one temple alone. As much as this is hard to believe, it is a fact. But it would be just pure exaggeration and clickbait to claim that 1,600 statues have been stolen because this is simply impossible, right? But there is something very strange about the roof of this temple. They're designed like the old batten roofing mimicking wooden planks and poles. In

00:13:59 reality, nothing in this temple is made of wood. This is all made of 100% stone. But the sculptors have pretended that this is all made of crisscrossing wooden blocks. And they've even put bolts in the places where the planks join. Are they real bolts and nuts? No, I am nuts because I'm just rambling about the beauty of the roof. Moving away from the topic of stolen statues, right? No, this one has a bolt. And this one has a bolt. But what about this one? Why is there a square slot carved here instead of a bolt? Okay,

00:14:44 maybe this is a mistake. But right next to it again you can see the regular bolt. But again right next to it you can see a rectangular slot but the bolts continue after that. Why? Think about it. Humans are not good at seeing what doesn't exist. They only see what's there. And this pattern of having a series of bowls except this corner one and that corner one is not just seen in one place. It's seen all over the roof. Why? Let me zoom out and highlight the parts that are relevant. You'll see those two projections and you see how

00:15:31 they're projecting sideways. You will always see them below these two empty slots. Why? Because ancient builders installed two statues in these two places. Let me recreate them using technology. This is how it would have looked. Not just in one corner on the roof of Sumatra temple, but everywhere. These statues would have been amazing. But they would have been quite unique because of their size. They were no taller than 10 or 12 in. They were tiny little statues. There is no other reason for ancient builders to create these

00:16:22 projections at the base and carve these rectangular slots directly above them. In some places where you see all the bolts on the roof, you will see a rectangular slot in a slightly different place. This confirms that they did install all these mini statues and they drilled these rectangular holes while installing them. If the slot was too inconvenient because of the size of the statue, they put the slot a little bit further to accommodate the statue. Now, is it possible that they created all these holders and drilled all these

00:17:05 holes, but they could not finish placing the statues? What if ancient builders were planning to install these statues and suddenly a war broke out and they all ran away without installing the statues? No. Look here. That is a damaged holder. It got damaged when the British removed the statue. This is clear evidence that these statues were installed once upon a time but were then removed. When the British took these statues in places where they could not easily dismantle the statues, they broke the top folders and the bottom folders

00:17:49 and remove the statues. Here you can see how both the top and bottom show broken fragments. Such a detail would not be seen if the statues had never been installed. But there is one more artistic detail that really nails the fact that these statues were placed here. It is the carving of Ghanas underneath them, showing that they're bearing the weight. These ganas are tiny gnomeike creatures usually shown underneath statues and heavy loads and they usually have their arms raised up as though they're bearing the load. I've

00:18:30 shown you this feature in many temples. These gunnas were carved directly underneath the statues, confirming that these mini idols were installed all around the temple wall. How many mini statues are we talking about? 220 mini statues. Yes, 220. I will show you exactly how I calculated this. See the temple wall of Sonatra is folded into many facets. If we extend these facets and make them into a straight wall, it might even stretch for half a mile long. Yes, some have estimated that the temple perimeter

00:19:16 extends for 1 kilometer. And I've calculated the number of these corners. You see each one projects into a cube or a cone from the top view. This cone for example is this area and each cube or cone had four mini statues. This cone had one, two, three, four statues. And this temple has a total of 55 of these structures. Now, this is a blueprint of the temple and you can see 55 of them. Therefore, 55 * 4 equals a whopping 220 statues. So, if we add that to the stolen statue count there, that comes

00:20:09 out to an insane number of 512. Now, you might have realized that this was not a clickbait thumbnail because we are really approaching this big number in the thumbnail. But we're not finished yet. In fact, we are just getting started. I want to show you a lot more of these stolen statues, but I cannot post it in public. So, I'm putting the rest of the video in the membersonly section, which shows you some insane details about the stolen idols of Somnata. I've collected so much information about this and you're going

00:20:55 to be surprised by the sheer volume of idols stolen from Sumnatra. It is unbelievable what they've taken from this temple. So, please click on the join button below and watch that video. You can see something quite insane in the thumbnail. You might have thought they would have stolen 16 statues or a maximum of 160 statues, but nobody would have thought they would have taken 1,600 statues from one temple. Most people don't even think there are 1,600 statues in one temple. But the ancient Sumnura temple has more than 5,000

00:21:46 carvings. Even after all these statues have been taken from it. Sadly, all these stolen idols are in different museums and in the hands of private collectors. And I hope we can take this as a lesson to protect these ancient temples better. I am Pravin Moan. Thanks a lot for watching. Don't forget to subscribe and I'll talk to you soon. Bye. [Music]
 
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