Indian Air Force: News & Discussions

[Vishnugupt]

Also put the mk2 and AMCA on hold

You are literally a silent assassin….. you suggest something even China and Pakistan wouldn’t suggest us.

 

[silentassassin265]

You are literally a silent assassin….. you suggest something even China and Pakistan wouldn’t suggest us.

China and porkistan would actually suggest us to start 10 more projects including 6th gen jet as we never complete 90% of the projects

 

[Wolfie]

China and porkistan would actually suggest us to start 10 more projects including 6th gen jet as we never complete 90% of the projects

Calm your tits, whining comes out to be an easy option when discussion is about technical stuff, can you name all the components followed by their subcomponents that would go in AMCA? Black pilling is alright sometimes(only).

 

[Wolfie]

@SKC do we have a contributor tag here too? I would like to make a detailed post explaining basics of turbo machinery

 

[Spitfire IX]

Kf21 is not even a successful project, they are inducting half baked product currently and the one with 5th gen capabilities is still on paper.
AMCA is a pipe dream, rafale actually makes sense but we will need to order at least 100 for air force.

LCA mk1a project will be a failure unless we use kaveri engine as burgerican have stopped the engine delievery.

Rather than relying on imagination we must work on what we have - more rafales, kaveri engine for mk1a and su 30 mki upgrade.

Also put the mk2 and AMCA on hold and use the money to buy spare mirage and mig29 to help existing fleet.
Arming the heron drones will also be beneficial to fight against insurgents and terrorists.

The KF-21 is being developed in 3 phases. The 3rd phase is, I presume as scheduled, still on paper. It is in production, as planned. It looks like a successful project to me, likely to hit phase1 and phase 2 delivery deadlines.

40 years into the project, Mk1A is in production. Worldwide aviation production has been affected by Covid-19 and now by titanium shortages etc. I am not convinced that GE deliberately failed to deliver F404 engines on time.

Kaveri engine is very important IMO but GOI does not seem to agree.

I agree that India should buy M2K and MiG-29 to mitigate late delivery of Mk2 to IAF. With the high probability of Mk2 being delayed substantially, that should have been done years ago.

Slow Mk2 down? I don't agree. On the contrary, I think it should be speeded up.

 

[DumbPilot]

View: https://x.com/officialTatya_1/status/1831233545773470174?t=Q-eN76V2VkcKORJ_sm48ZA&s=19

Interesting, the Tejas pilot isn't wearing the Elbit DASH/any other helmet mounted cueing/display system

 

[Bhartiya Sainik]

@SKC do we have a contributor tag here too? I would like to make a detailed post explaining basics of turbo machinery

There are 2 threads to explain turbo-engine & airframe design to which members can contribute in detail.

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Thread 'Understanding Jet Engine Technology'

Jul 17, 2024

Hello everyone,
Hot JET ENGINE has always been a hot topic of discussion, especially comparing them & trying to decipher capability of new upcoming engines.
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Similarly, let's make an effort to understand a jet engine in an easy way. You can share many Youtube videos & websites which don't get into complex mathematical model.
A picture/diagram/graph is worth...

• Bhartiya Sainik
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Thread 'Understanding Aircraft Design'

Jul 17, 2024

Hello everyone,
Since childhood, Aircraft became part of our life in form of toys.
The very sight of it amazes people. Its sound gives goosebumps.
The global R&D in last 100 years has given some exceptional aircrafts of different types.
Numerous documentaries have been made, articles published.
People wonder what leads to a particular design.

Let's make a step by step effort to share our knowledge about airframe design -
- Basic diagram of an airplane
- How airplane flies
- Basic parts of airplane
- Types of airplanes
- Why airplanes look different w.r.t. their body, wings, etc
- Key...

• Bhartiya Sainik
• Replies: 20
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[VictorDelta4]

View: https://x.com/ajaynewsman/status/1832963579487650261

 

[Bhartiya Sainik]

India's choice so far
Su-57-no
F-35 - no
Su-35 - no
AMCA- yes
China has a lot of 5G fighters now and should have masses by 2030. Pakistan may also have a few by then. India, in contrast, promises to have no 5G fighters at all until late 2030's. Is that the way for IAF to provide credible defence?

KAI is reported to be offering KF-21 to Philippines with delivery of block 2 (A2A and A2G capable) in 2028. KAI may move to block 3 development with IWB soon. If AMCA does not progress satisfactorily, perhaps with likely delivery slipping towards 2040, KF-21 block 3 could be ordered.

Realistically, MRFA would start delivery after 2030.. Neat would be to forget MRFA, order Rafale and/or KF-21 block 2 if Rafale could not be delivered for many years. KF-21 block 3 could be ordered later if needed.

That would cover the IAF fighter crisis as well as anything else, wouldn't it?

F-35 - No
Su-35 - same as MKI+ upgrade.
Su-57 - not in mood but possible out of desperation.
KF-21 - if imported, will set back the AMCA project.
There need to be as many SAMs of all types (active, passive, RF, IR) & ranges as possible on the borders & possible critical attack areas. If we can't arrange platform for AAMs then SAMs.

 

[Spitfire IX]

KF-21 - if imported, will set back the AMCA project.

How?

 

[Bhartiya Sainik]

How?

> The saved money will be diverted towards KF-21.
> Then people will become comfortable with importing more & more of it.
> The delay which happened with LCA, then MWF & even AMCA will get extended.
> It will be more easy to choke us with KF-21 components delay/deny than AMCA.

 

[saturatedfat]

IDK which place to ask this question but during the kargil war which aircrafts were the IAF using and in what quantity?
Same with the 1965 and 1971 wars

 

[Miss Firing]

We want to give India F-16 Fighting Falcon fighter jets: US Major General

Major General David A Piffarerio, Mobilization Assistant to the Deputy Commander of the US Pacific Air Forces (PACAF), said on Thursday that the United States is ready to offer F-16 fighter jets to India

www.opindia.com

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"We want to give India F-16s": US Major General Piffarerio

Jodhpur [Rajasthan], September 12 (ANI): Major General David A Piffarerio, Mobilization Assistant to the Deputy Commander of the US Pacific Air Forces (PACAF), said on Thursday that the United States is ready to offer F-16 fighter jets to India. Speaking with reporters on India’s defence sector...

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US is ready to offer F-16 fighter jets to India, depends on Indian Air Force what they want: Major General with US Pacific Air Forces​

Major General David A Piffarerio added, "We certainly want to give them the best that we have -- the F-16s. But ultimately it's going to be a choice for the Indian Air Force on what they want to do with their air defence."

Major General David A Piffarerio, Mobilization Assistant to the Deputy Commander of the US Pacific Air Forces (PACAF), said on Thursday that the United States is ready to offer F-16 fighter jets to India.


Speaking with reporters on India’s defence sector and F-16 Fighting Falcon fighter jets, Major General Piffarerio said, “…The more options that are out there, I think the stronger the Indian Air Force is going to be in the future.”


He added, “We certainly want to give them the best that we have — the F-16s. But ultimately it’s going to be a choice for the Indian Air Force on what they want to do with their air defence.”

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Hmmmm....

 

[VictorDelta4]

US is ready to offer F-16 fighter jets to India, depends on Indian Air Force what they want: Major General with US Pacific Air Forces​

Major General David A Piffarerio added, "We certainly want to give them the best that we have -- the F-16s. But ultimately it's going to be a choice for the Indian Air Force on what they want to do with their air defence."

Major General David A Piffarerio, Mobilization Assistant to the Deputy Commander of the US Pacific Air Forces (PACAF), said on Thursday that the United States is ready to offer F-16 fighter jets to India.


Speaking with reporters on India’s defence sector and F-16 Fighting Falcon fighter jets, Major General Piffarerio said, “…The more options that are out there, I think the stronger the Indian Air Force is going to be in the future.”


He added, “We certainly want to give them the best that we have — the F-16s. But ultimately it’s going to be a choice for the Indian Air Force on what they want to do with their air defence.”

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Hmmmm....

Has been on the table for IAF since 2008!

 

[Blademaster]

We want to give India F-16 Fighting Falcon fighter jets: US Major General

Major General David A Piffarerio, Mobilization Assistant to the Deputy Commander of the US Pacific Air Forces (PACAF), said on Thursday that the United States is ready to offer F-16 fighter jets to India

www.opindia.com

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"We want to give India F-16s": US Major General Piffarerio

Jodhpur [Rajasthan], September 12 (ANI): Major General David A Piffarerio, Mobilization Assistant to the Deputy Commander of the US Pacific Air Forces (PACAF), said on Thursday that the United States is ready to offer F-16 fighter jets to India. Speaking with reporters on India’s defence sector...

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View attachment 9251

US is ready to offer F-16 fighter jets to India, depends on Indian Air Force what they want: Major General with US Pacific Air Forces​

Major General David A Piffarerio added, "We certainly want to give them the best that we have -- the F-16s. But ultimately it's going to be a choice for the Indian Air Force on what they want to do with their air defence."

Major General David A Piffarerio, Mobilization Assistant to the Deputy Commander of the US Pacific Air Forces (PACAF), said on Thursday that the United States is ready to offer F-16 fighter jets to India.


Speaking with reporters on India’s defence sector and F-16 Fighting Falcon fighter jets, Major General Piffarerio said, “…The more options that are out there, I think the stronger the Indian Air Force is going to be in the future.”


He added, “We certainly want to give them the best that we have — the F-16s. But ultimately it’s going to be a choice for the Indian Air Force on what they want to do with their air defence.”

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Hmmmm....

So there’s a reason behind the delay of GE404 after all. They really don’t want India to have independent capabilities of having its own homegrown fighters. And the Chandigarh lobby is helping the US in that regard. Bunch of fucking traitors.

 

[Binayak95]

So there’s a reason behind the delay of GE404 after all. They really don’t want India to have independent capabilities of having its own homegrown fighters. And the Chandigarh lobby is helping the US in that regard. Bunch of fucking traitors.

Arreh kaka. This is a dead horse you're flogging.

 

[Bhartiya Sainik]

We want to give India F-16 Fighting Falcon fighter jets: US Major General

Major General David A Piffarerio, Mobilization Assistant to the Deputy Commander of the US Pacific Air Forces (PACAF), said on Thursday that the United States is ready to offer F-16 fighter jets to India

www.opindia.com

​

"We want to give India F-16s": US Major General Piffarerio

Jodhpur [Rajasthan], September 12 (ANI): Major General David A Piffarerio, Mobilization Assistant to the Deputy Commander of the US Pacific Air Forces (PACAF), said on Thursday that the United States is ready to offer F-16 fighter jets to India. Speaking with reporters on India’s defence sector...

theprint.in

View attachment 9251

US is ready to offer F-16 fighter jets to India, depends on Indian Air Force what they want: Major General with US Pacific Air Forces​

Major General David A Piffarerio added, "We certainly want to give them the best that we have -- the F-16s. But ultimately it's going to be a choice for the Indian Air Force on what they want to do with their air defence."

Major General David A Piffarerio, Mobilization Assistant to the Deputy Commander of the US Pacific Air Forces (PACAF), said on Thursday that the United States is ready to offer F-16 fighter jets to India.


Speaking with reporters on India’s defence sector and F-16 Fighting Falcon fighter jets, Major General Piffarerio said, “…The more options that are out there, I think the stronger the Indian Air Force is going to be in the future.”


He added, “We certainly want to give them the best that we have — the F-16s. But ultimately it’s going to be a choice for the Indian Air Force on what they want to do with their air defence.”

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Hmmmm....

USA want to do business? Ok, give us the F110-GE-132A engine which was part of F-16-IN, rest our DoD techies will do.

 

[shauryaman65]

We want to give India F-16 Fighting Falcon fighter jets: US Major General

Major General David A Piffarerio, Mobilization Assistant to the Deputy Commander of the US Pacific Air Forces (PACAF), said on Thursday that the United States is ready to offer F-16 fighter jets to India

www.opindia.com

​

"We want to give India F-16s": US Major General Piffarerio

Jodhpur [Rajasthan], September 12 (ANI): Major General David A Piffarerio, Mobilization Assistant to the Deputy Commander of the US Pacific Air Forces (PACAF), said on Thursday that the United States is ready to offer F-16 fighter jets to India. Speaking with reporters on India’s defence sector...

theprint.in

View attachment 9251

US is ready to offer F-16 fighter jets to India, depends on Indian Air Force what they want: Major General with US Pacific Air Forces​

Major General David A Piffarerio added, "We certainly want to give them the best that we have -- the F-16s. But ultimately it's going to be a choice for the Indian Air Force on what they want to do with their air defence."

Major General David A Piffarerio, Mobilization Assistant to the Deputy Commander of the US Pacific Air Forces (PACAF), said on Thursday that the United States is ready to offer F-16 fighter jets to India.


Speaking with reporters on India’s defence sector and F-16 Fighting Falcon fighter jets, Major General Piffarerio said, “…The more options that are out there, I think the stronger the Indian Air Force is going to be in the future.”


He added, “We certainly want to give them the best that we have — the F-16s. But ultimately it’s going to be a choice for the Indian Air Force on what they want to do with their air defence.”

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Hmmmm....

Thoda late ho gaya ji. Rafale basket mai saare ande daal diye.....

 

[username unkown]

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[Blademaster]

Arreh kaka. This is a dead horse you're flogging.

No it’s not a dead horse I’m flogging. It’s a fucking live horse I’m flogging because the fucking IAF doesn’t fucking get it and didn’t plan for it. And now we are in a fucking pickle. Sorry I’m not giving a free pass to the IAF or MoD on this one. It’s a fucking national disgrace and they need to fucking feel the heat on their fucking soles of their stupid feet.