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Russia gave N sub on lease for us....leasing N sub is big thing when compared to 140 jets lease...they need paisa and our air force doesn't like Desi projects so some sort of symbiosis is present...there are ~270 mig 29 in service with Russia in 2015 so they can manage to give us 140 in 6 Billion......amreek know that this lease will further strengthen indo russian ties so they will try their best to make Import Air Force love amreek jets
Airforce Migs and Navy Migs are different.
Lots of aiframe/landing gear strengthening and bits n pieces changes for the carrier/saline env operation. So Russia would've needed to build 40 something Mig29k separately.(40 because of their shitty availability).
 
Definitely the production rate is low but isn't that a cause-n-effect loop type thing

An order for 150 Rafale is a huge deal. It would have been the biggest non French order at that time or to put in perspective, even today it's close to the combined total of all the orders other than French and Emirati. For this much of Euros involved we could've easily made them do
or atleast
And voila, your supply issue is pretty much sorted
That is very far fetched. We don't know which parts/MSME supplier is the bottleneck in the whole supply chain. Most probably something related to Safran just like GE, so without it we would be still stuck with same production speed. Because we will only be making low tech stuff in the assembly.

For Safran leap engines
 
That is very far fetched. We don't know which parts/MSME supplier is the bottleneck in the whole supply chain. Most probably something related to Safran just like GE, so without it we would be still stuck with same production speed. Because we will only be making low tech stuff in the assembly.

For Safran leap engines
Other than engine, the biggest problem in Dassault is the lack of skilled manpower. Obviously no one would accept that and simply pass it as "supply chain issue" but there were some talks about transferring people from Falcon's line to Rafale's.
I'd assume Safran is also suffering from same problem.

I big token order from us with local manufacturing would have both solved the manpower issue and also injected enough cash that they can invest some in CapEx.
 
At this point I feel like we should simply order J-20s and end all these nonsense of RFI-RFP-L1-Cancellation-Re-RFI

Believe me, that process would be more straightforward that whatever's been happening since I don't know how many years
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Hold on tho. Can we... like, order J-10s 😬?
 
AMCA is far, how 'bout J-31 in MRCA 😬. Amriki were offering us F-21 after selling Pak F-16. Both sides have simultaneously used Mig-21 variants as well
Again nah
J-20 is best option as it's in service and much more proven than j-31 which is in testing phase

I hope we are being sarcastic here
 
Few years ago I was of the opinion that F-35 would be the best option for IAF as US MIC has the capability to deliver the aircrafts at fast rate which was crucial to compensate for the depleting strength of IAF.
We could have gone for a limited number which could have supported IAF till the time AMCA came to stage of induction i.e anywhere between 10-15 years from now.
However the way geopolitics has changed that option is no longer safe as US can not be trusted.
Rafael can't be ordered as the wait period is too long.
Euro fighter although is a great aircraft but has too many woke europan countries involved in it which again makes it a non plausible option.
Next we are left Russian aircrafts.
This is sad state of affairs. A f-up of highest order.
 
Few years ago I was of the opinion that F-35 would be the best option for IAF as US MIC has the capability to deliver the aircrafts at fast rate which was crucial to compensate for the depleting strength of IAF.
We could have gone for a limited number which could have supported IAF till the time AMCA came to stage of induction i.e anywhere between 10-15 years from now.
However the way geopolitics has changed that option is no longer safe as US can not be trusted.
Rafael can't be ordered as the wait period is too long.
Euro fighter although is a great aircraft but has too many woke europan countries involved in it which again makes it a non plausible option.
Next we are left Russian aircrafts.
This is sad state of affairs. A f-up of highest order.
It is for govt to realise hard geopolitical realities and go whole hog on domestic fighter programmes with Russian/French engines with side by side development of Kaveri. Sanction Tedbf now instead of 4 year later, give ample funding to amca and uav projects with better accountability. Drawing out each year just 1% of annual freebie budget I.e 4 lac crore will be enough to fund our strategic projects. But only a non banana country would think above vote banks
 
Gem of probably biggest 🤡arm of our military.

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And when we criticize our generals people starts calling us out on social media ..
I have always wondered why aren't the COI reports made public. As @Ayan Barat once mentioned, Indian Military needs a public hearing akin to the US congressional hearings!
Only when the dirty linen is washed in public, will they start acting straight.
 

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